This is how it should be

[MichiganHerd]

If the playoffs were to start based on current rankings:

Friday Night, 8 PM Start
#16 Iowa State vs #1 Alabama
#9 West Virginia vs #8 Washington State

Saturday, 1 PM Start
#13 Florida vs #4 Michigan
#12 Syracuse vs #5 Georgia

Saturday, 4:30 PM Start
#15 Texas vs #2 Clemson
#10 Ohio State vs #7 LSU

Saturday, 8 PM Start
#14 Penn State vs #3 Notre Dame
#11 Central Florida vs #6 Oklahoma

 

[locustwv]

Not a fan of 16. I think 8 would be perfect. 5 conference champions, and 3 at large teams.

 

[WVUALLEN]

If the playoffs were to start based on current rankings:

Friday Night, 8 PM Start
#16 Iowa State vs #1 Alabama
#9 West Virginia vs #8 Washington State

Saturday, 1 PM Start
#13 Florida vs #4 Michigan
#12 Syracuse vs #5 Georgia

Saturday, 4:30 PM Start
#15 Texas vs #2 Clemson
#10 Ohio State vs #7 LSU

Saturday, 8 PM Start
#14 Penn State vs #3 Notre Dame
#11 Central Florida vs #6 Oklahoma

Ruining it all by taking with a voice of reason.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Not a fan of 16. I think 8 would be perfect. 5 conference champions, and 3 at large teams.

What if the conference champ is 7-6?

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

That would only happen if you cut the season down to 11 and take out Conference championship games.

No one wants to play more than 15 games.

 

[locustwv]

What if the conference champ is 7-6?

That’s why there would be at large teams. Just my opinion.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

How it should be is-
No committee
No rankings from a committee
No selection
64 or 96 teams in some form of a mega conference with only automatic qualifiers by winning the conference and wild cards.


That ain't happening though. I mean under college football selection the NY Giants wouldn't have been in the playoffs either time they beat the Patriots in the SuperBowl.

WHAT CFP IS is a tv show designed for ratings and controversy to get more ratings.

 

[Chris from WV]

If the playoffs were to start based on current rankings:

Friday Night, 8 PM Start
#16 Iowa State vs #1 Alabama
#9 West Virginia vs #8 Washington State

Saturday, 1 PM Start
#13 Florida vs #4 Michigan
#12 Syracuse vs #5 Georgia

Saturday, 4:30 PM Start
#15 Texas vs #2 Clemson
#10 Ohio State vs #7 LSU

Saturday, 8 PM Start
#14 Penn State vs #3 Notre Dame
#11 Central Florida vs #6 Oklahoma

I love the 16-team format! Other NCAA divisions have had this type of playoff format for years. Once the NCAA figures out how to make the most money with this type of tournament, it will happen almost immediately.

 

[WVUDisciples]

Not a fan of 16. I think 8 would be perfect. 5 conference champions, and 3 at large teams.

EIGHT is the right number. 5 power 5 champs, best group of 5 team, two at large. top 4 teams get home game 1st round. that way you get guaranteed ticket sales.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

While we are throwing out things that would never happen, I'd argue to take 4 of the 64 Power 5 teams that have the worse track record over the last 30 or so years and put them with the mid-majors. Then separate what's left into 6 separate 10 team conferences based upon region. Everyone plays everyone in the conference and only a conference winner makes the playoffs. Sure some years some conferences will be better than others, but those things happen in any sport including the NFL where even with wildcards still sees some horrible 6-7 win team getting into the playoffs over a better team. That is 6 spots with 2 spots left over for the best of the mid majors.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

While we are throwing out things that would never happen, I'd argue to take 4 of the 64 Power 5 teams that have the worse track record over the last 30 or so years and put them with the mid-majors.

Not to be all quote happy but I think Stanford would fall in that. They have only been good like the past 7. I get what you are saying. You're looking at Duke, Kansas, Rutgers (guaranteed), and I guess Vandy/Stanford amongst the worst 4 in football. Northwestern got respectable about 25 years back with their rose bowl where Pat Fitzgerald was a LB.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I love the 16-team format! Other NCAA divisions have had this type of playoff format for years. Once the NCAA figures out how to make the most money with this type of tournament, it will happen almost immediately.

Cut the season back to 11 games and it's a go.

 

[88rocco]

If we went to 8 teams,that just means espin would get 3 SEC teams in, hell maybe 4. The rules have to give conference champs a seat at the table.......rankings be damned.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

If we went to 8 teams,that just means espin would get 3 SEC teams in, hell maybe 4. The rules have to give conference champs a seat at the table.......rankings be damned.

Why not....?
If you go by recruiting rankings and NFL draft picks the SEC is so far ahead of everyone.

The B1G jumped maybe 10 million in front of them in revenue
Problem with the B1G is the level of talent.
Kentucky and Missouri produce more talent than most SEC states.

Look at the recruiting rankings for this year

Oregon is the only anomaly.

Hopefully the ACC network fails and Clemson and Florida St joins the Big XII

1



Alabama

21

0

17

4

3.81

2554

2



Oregon

22

0

16

6

3.73

2499

3



Texas A&M

24

2

12

8

3.58

2474

4



Clemson

24

0

12

12

3.5

2408

5



Oklahoma

18

3

9

6

3.83

2390

6



Texas

20

0

12

8

3.6

2355

7



LSU

20

3

8

7

3.6

2332

8



Georgia

17

1

15

1

4

2320

9



Michigan

24

2

6

15

3.38

2137

10



Arkansas

24

0

11

13

3.46

2092

11



Notre Dame

20

0

11

9

3.55

2089

12



Tennessee

20

1

9

10

3.55

2067

13



Penn State

17

1

10

6

3.71

2052

14



Florida State

16

1

12

3

3.88

1987

15



Auburn

16

3

6

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

My theory on this has always been eight teams using the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta Bowls as the first cut. Once you have 4 teams -- your Final Four--- Use a neutral site location that is not one of the previous four bowls --Jerry World, MB Dome/ATL, Indy and St. Louis -- to host the Final Four in one day; 1pm game and 8 pm game. Then have your NCG at a site in the rota from one of these 8 locations. The teams in the NCG are the only one playing the 16th game and I'm 100% sure they won't complain about it.

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

What if the conference champ is 7-6?

Then that team may be an easy out. Or that team could demonstrate that their league was unusually tough and could end up plowing through the conference champs of other weaker conferences.

 

[sg44gold]

I don't completely disagree, but let me play Devil's advocate and point out some inherent bias.

You have Texas, Penn State and Iowa State IN over 1-loss Utah State and 1-loss Cinncy.

Utah State's only loss was AT Mich St by only 7 the first game of the year. But Mich St won AT Penn State. Does Mich St win AT Utah St? We will never know. Does Penn State beat Utah State?

And, Cinncy's only loss was a close loss AT (a very good) Temple. The SAME Temple that SMACKED Maryland. The SAME Maryland that SMACKED Texas. Does Texas beat Cinncy??? We will never know.

So you see, there are inherent biases built into the rankings as far down as #'s 14, 15 and 16.

 

[LAMountaineer]

What if the conference champ is 7-6?

Never happen.

 

[wvzeke1960_rivals]

5 conference champs... If that champ is 7-6 we will call them cinderella just like in basketball and they will be on the road. 4 top teams get home games with a 50/50 split gate. 3 wild card teams ... wild cards always play first round on the road... ALL CONFERENCES PLAY 9 CONFERENCE GAMES...1 POWER 5, 1 GROUP OF 5 AND 1 AT LARGE.... in all conferences once conference play starts then a team must play 9 straight conference opponents ... only exception would be the final game of the season. I would also include a bit of conference realignment that would move Notre Dame into the Big 10 west. Boise into the Pac 12 north. send Nebraska and Colorado back to the Big 12. And for only geography A swap of WV for Louisville in the ACC or WV for MO in the SEC. Use bowl games for Semi's and teams with first round losses can accept bowl bids.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Boise St no matter if they won 92 consecutive games would never get into the Pac 12.

You are talking about a former Community College that is pretty much a diploma mill.

I love how people have this idea of what college belongs where.

 

[WVUALLEN]

First TVZ said it's all about marketing. Now it's all about education. Spin doctor continues to roll.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

Boise St no matter if they won 92 consecutive games would never get into the Pac 12.

You are talking about a former Community College that is pretty much a diploma mill.

I love how people have this idea of what college belongs where.

Don't criticize Boise State.
Every highly regarded school in the USA including Duke, Stanford, Vanderbilt, and yes even WVU has majors designed to keep athletes eligible. How many multi disciplinary introductory studies degrees does the world really need? It's like getting a Masters or PhD in Left handed puppetry with a right foot tube sock.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

First TVZ said it's all about marketing. Now it's all about education. Spin doctor continues to roll.

Every conference is different.

Pac 12 wants flagship universities or large private universities in the Western US that will fit their Conference of Champions Look...

Stanford is an odd duck.
Texas has dealt with them two times now.
Stanford because of how their endowment funds their athletic department doesn't ultimately care about revenue.

They pretty much use the interest every year.
But...

They are very smart because if the Pac 12 network ever turns Into a huge revenue stream the conference doesn't share the money with ESPN or FOX.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Don't criticize Boise State.
Every highly regarded school in the USA including Duke, Stanford, Vanderbilt, and yes even WVU has majors designed to keep athletes eligible. How many multi disciplinary introductory studies degrees does the world really need? It's like getting a Masters or PhD in Left handed puppetry with a right foot tube sock.

I an just repeating the narrative out of the Pac 12.

Understand Boise St is trying very hard to change their image.
They are investing huge amounts of money to make their school a major research university.

At the end of the day very much like BYU they will be told no.

 

[MichiganHerd]

I'm predicting that 'if' the SEC happens to get two teams into the playoff this year (whether right or wrong), you'll see some immediate changes likely take place really, really soon. There's no way the B1G would stand for getting shut out three years in a row, whether they deserved it or not. Big 12 and Pac 12 getting shut out as well.

What they truly need are (4) 20 team conferences. Play 11 game schedule, including round robin divisional schedule (see big 12), two division winners compete (Elite 8 games), Final Four is seeded.

All games are played at Waldo Stadium in beautiful Kalamazoo, Michigan.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

All games are played at Waldo Stadium in beautiful Kalamazoo, Michigan.

I've heard that in Kalamazoo Meat Chicken if you go K-12 in a public school there, INDUSTRY will pay for your undergrad at any State school in the State of Meat Chicken. Is that true? I've heard it's not a government program it's from a bunch of industry billionaires who more college people from that wealthy area.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I'm predicting that 'if' the SEC happens to get two teams into the playoff this year (whether right or wrong), you'll see some immediate changes likely take place really, really soon. There's no way the B1G would stand for getting shut out three years in a row, whether they deserved it or not. Big 12 and Pac 12 getting shut out as well.

What they truly need are (4) 20 team conferences. Play 11 game schedule, including round robin divisional schedule (see big 12), two division winners compete (Elite 8 games), Final Four is seeded.

All games are played at Waldo Stadium in beautiful Kalamazoo, Michigan.

You can't change a system that is already put in place.
The B1G has to wait until the contract on the CFP runs out.
Maybe FOX will start a bidding war for the CFP.

The B1G agreed to the current format.
Last year they did not have a team with a résumé.
This year they do with Michigan but if UGA beats Alabama and Michigan wins out things can get interesting.

There is a difference in losing by 3 points and getting blown out.
Ohio St like last year does not have the resume.
That loss to Purdue will keep them out even with if they beat Michigan

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I've heard that in Kalamazoo Meat Chicken if you go K-12 in a public school there, INDUSTRY will pay for your undergrad at any State school in the State of Meat Chicken. Is that true? I've heard it's not a government program it's from a bunch of industry billionaires who more college people from that wealthy area.

The only thing great about Michigan is the number of public golf courses.
You may not be able to play golf year round but when you can you have a number of beautiful subsidized golf courses in the state.
Believe they still have more public courses than anywhere in the country.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

I don't play golf though

 

[88rocco]

If two SEC teams are in.......fine, but make them play each other the first game so it's not a conference lock to win the CFP.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

If two SEC teams are in.......fine, but make them play each other the first game so it's not a conference lock to win the CFP.

Why?

I am all for not giving teams CFP berths because of conferences but I am also for not punishing teams because of conferences.


Clemson is the perfect example of what a school can become.
Clemson has a little bit of history but Clemson was always considered to be a slightly above average team historically.

Not every team has the recruiting advantage of Clemson mind you

But...

Clemson is a little dog living in the world of big dogs and winning on a National Level.

 

[MichiganHerd]

I've heard that in Kalamazoo Meat Chicken if you go K-12 in a public school there, INDUSTRY will pay for your undergrad at any State school in the State of Meat Chicken. Is that true? I've heard it's not a government program it's from a bunch of industry billionaires who more college people from that wealthy area.

It's true about the paid college tuition, but uncertain about who is flipping the bill for it. There's two major money makers in town that could afford to pull it off - Pfizer and Stryker, but I've heard from a reliable source that it's the richest family in town, the Johnson clan. Rhonda Stryker is a part of that family as well.

P.S. we've been over this before...it's MICHIGAN