This is the one specific reason we lost.

Levibooty

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The 3:00 minute game

With 2:47 to go in this tie game UGA had the ball on their own 25 yard line to start their final drive. In sequence:
UGA passes for two yards to the TE,

Wims catches the ball for 12 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

Chubb runs for 3 yards,

Wims catches the ball for 12 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

Godwin catches the ball for 16 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

UGA now has the ball on UK's 30 yard line. From there Michel runs the ball three times for 22 yards setting up a 25 yard field goal with 3 seconds left.

Say what you will this was the 3 minute game we played passively allowing UGA to complete 12-16 yard passes near the sideline at will. Not only did we give huge cushions to the WR's catching balls from a freshman, we backed pedaled from the snap giving even more opportunity for Georgia to drive down the field use up the entire clock running the ball inside our 30 yard line finally kicking the easy game winning field goal as time expired.

One three minute game we did not compete in because were so passive on defense. That is the game we lost last night.
 

LordEgg_rivals16573

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Those are facts not opinions. It happened. I just don't get our thinking. I understand messing up. I don't understand having the wrong plan.
 
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K_TIME

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Agreed on the soft cushion to the sideline routes. Westry is the worst at this.

After UGA got the initial first down we had to have the DBs up in press to take that away. The Michel runs made a solid FG into essentially an extra point ease FG...but the pass plays before we're back breakers.
 

tuck66

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The 3:00 minute game

With 2:47 to go in this tie game UGA had the ball on their own 25 yard line to start their final drive. In sequence:
UGA passes for two yards to the TE,

Wims catches the ball for 12 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

Chubb runs for 3 yards,

Wims catches the ball for 12 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

Godwin catches the ball for 16 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

UGA now has the ball on UK's 30 yard line. From there Michel runs the ball three times for 22 yards setting up a 25 yard field goal with 3 seconds left.

Say what you will this was the 3 minute game we played passively allowing UGA to complete 12-16 yard passes near the sideline at will. Not only did we give huge cushions to the WR's catching balls from a freshman, we backed pedaled from the snap giving even more opportunity for Georgia to drive down the field use up the entire clock running the ball inside our 30 yard line finally kicking the easy game winning field goal as time expired.

One three minute game we did not compete in because were so passive on defense. That is the game we lost last night.
No sir! Game was lost by Badet handing the ball to GA DB....had he not, UK wins! Simple as that!
 

51stFan

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I thought we should of called timeout after the two yard gain. We played the series not to lose instead of being aggressive and trying to get the ball back to score. Georgia had plenty of timeouts and time was not going to be a factor for them setting up a field goal. Make them beat you deep for a touchdown. At least you get the ball back with a little time to try and score.
 
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Levibooty

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No sir! Game was lost by Badet handing the ball to GA DB....had he not, UK wins! Simple as that!
You're welcomed to you opinion as we all are but here is why your opinion in this instance isn't very well thought out. It is true Badet dropped a pass that would have made our path to victory much easier but there was still time on the clock to make up for that mistake. In the 3 minute game I showed above we not only played passive, we allowed the other team total control of the clock and the outcome of the game. In that 3:00 minute game we never had the ball to try and win, we simply backed up.
 

tuck66

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I agree with passive/conservative play calling....Stoops hallmark. However the inability of this team to make routine plays i.e. Badet handoff to GA, Conrad hold that took 3 off the board ultimately gave GA a shot and they made the routine plays.....just think, if we can find a way to lose to UT we may be able to move down around bottom feeder status with Vandy again! Misery loves company.....
 

optimus-blue

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we lost because we relied too much on a "gimmick" on offense and the total inability to have a short passing game and throw in our usual 2 turnovers per game you get last night result
 
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downw/ball-lineD

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The 3:00 minute game

With 2:47 to go in this tie game UGA had the ball on their own 25 yard line to start their final drive. In sequence:
UGA passes for two yards to the TE,

Wims catches the ball for 12 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

Chubb runs for 3 yards,

Wims catches the ball for 12 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

Godwin catches the ball for 16 yards and out of bounds CB gives 8 yard cushion and backs up at the snap,

UGA now has the ball on UK's 30 yard line. From there Michel runs the ball three times for 22 yards setting up a 25 yard field goal with 3 seconds left.

Say what you will this was the 3 minute game we played passively allowing UGA to complete 12-16 yard passes near the sideline at will. Not only did we give huge cushions to the WR's catching balls from a freshman, we backed pedaled from the snap giving even more opportunity for Georgia to drive down the field use up the entire clock running the ball inside our 30 yard line finally kicking the easy game winning field goal as time expired.

One three minute game we did not compete in because were so passive on defense. That is the game we lost last night.


I agree with this. I just can't figure out what the thought process was here. Uga only needed 3. It felt like we just gave it to them. Stoops said in the post game show that we were " off balance" in that series. Should we have called a timeout? U have to put up some resistance right? It looked like a 2 min drill against a scout team at practice.

Throw in our last offensive sequence and I can't help but think of not giving the ball to Randall Cobb on 1st and goal to beat UT. I am just frustrated we let a golden opportunity that uk rarely gets just slip away
 

Anon1660081258

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I understand a lot of the conservatism in view of what our "passing game" looks like at this point. However, sitting in Sec 9 I found it hard to understand why we did not press harder to score the ball faster on our final drive. I felt like we probably could have worked to set ourselves up for a likely final 2 minute possession. I figured we would need it. Turns out, we did. Ifs and buts, though. Dawgs might have just stretched their final. Might add that I HATED the corner route on 3rd and goal. Even at that down and distance, I would have only inserted Johnson as a ruse, and would have used him to put the ball in Boom's hands, figuring that removing Snell and placing Johnson in gun would sell pass. Yes... draw.
 
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Levibooty

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People get all emotional after a game like this and treat other with great disrespect. Some want to lay the blame on Badet who dropped a long pass he should have caught but these things happen, Kentucky was not the only team to drop a pass in this game. But the decision to play off Georgia's WR's in the final 3 minutes is a strategic mistake exemplified by the result of the game last night. Any football fan should ask themselves, given the same situation today would you still play the prevent defense when the game was tied and all UGA needed was a field goal to win? Never mind all the other stuff because at the point that last drive started the game was tied
 

Levibooty

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we lost because we relied too much on a "gimmick" on offense and the total inability to have a short passing game and throw in our usual 2 turnovers per game you get last night result
Regardless of any conversation of offensive gimmicks there were no gimmicks used on the drive that won the game.
 

STUCKNBIG10

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Agree with OP. i was there and totally baffled at the way we were playing defense. I would have understood the strategy if there were thirty seconds left, but there was three minutes left - an eternity, especially in college football where the clock stops to move the chains.

Made no sense to me.
 

STUCKNBIG10

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Also, Georgia was willing to go to OT, as evidenced by their first couple of play calls. They didn't have much ambition to score, but we made it so easy on them that they changed strategy.
 

Aike

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Agree. Our strategy seemed to be to hope they missed their FG attempt.
 

BlueRaider22

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What was Georgia's TOP during the 2nd half of the game? Or the 4th quarter? Or the last 5-10'?

Sure, we played soft on defense at the end but to pin the game on the last drive is just myopic. Badet didn't just drop the ball.....he dropped a TD....and ended up a INT. Juice made a crtical catch, then fumbled it. Johnson fumbled it. After riding Snell the length of the field and switching off to a fade to Baker. We were in FG range but suffered a penalty that pushed us out of range. The defensive play and calling at the end of the game. The offensive play calling during most of the 2nd half. Etc. etc. etc.
 

BlueRunner11

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Deja Vu from the Vandy and Miss St games. Both easily could've been losses for the same reason.

Eventually playing with fire by going so soft will burn your ***. You'd think Stoops would learn.

I'll disagree with you as to this being the sole reason we lost. Not executing and taking care of the ball is why we lost.
 

Aike

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Yeah I wouldn't say it was the only reason either. But when you're working against the clock, mistakes are magnified.

You can regroup and recover from earlier mistakes, but there's nothing you can do if you let the other team line up for a chip shot FG with 3 seconds left.
 

Levibooty

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What was Georgia's TOP during the 2nd half of the game? Or the 4th quarter? Or the last 5-10'?

Sure, we played soft on defense at the end but to pin the game on the last drive is just myopic. Badet didn't just drop the ball.....he dropped a TD....and ended up a INT. Juice made a crtical catch, then fumbled it. Johnson fumbled it. After riding Snell the length of the field and switching off to a fade to Baker. We were in FG range but suffered a penalty that pushed us out of range. The defensive play and calling at the end of the game. The offensive play calling during most of the 2nd half. Etc. etc. etc.
BlueRaider I agree with you there were several plays that could have changed the outcome of the game but that we will never know because the plays you speak of happened during the game and we had time left to respond. The unmistakable fact is that when UGA kept moving the ball against our soft defense on the last drive we did not have a single second left in the game to respond. We effectively played a 2:47 game because the score was tied and we played passively resulting in sideline completions allowing Georgia to keep the ball for the entire 2:47 game ending in a chip shot field goal as time ran out.
 

katwest

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I have been saying this all night and everybody sez the defense was gassed, well I'm sure they were but with under two minutes left there can can be no cushion if all it takes is a field goal to beat you.
 
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BlueRunner11

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We've outplayed teams this season but by careless turnovers have kept them in it.

The turnovers have to be fixed.

We don't have the coaching acumen when it comes to clock management and end game on the fly decisions to keep putting ourselves in these unnecessary positions imo.
 

BlueRaider22

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^once again, what was UGA's TOP throughout the 2nd half?

It's a rhetorical question. Our defense was on the field for way too long. For a defense that has little mature depth, how would you expect them to play? To me, our defense on the last drive was a product of how the team performed prior.

As a former player I can tell you how frustrating it is to do your job for the majority of the game, get little help, then just run out of confidence and steam. You feel helpless and it infuriates you.
 

donngottie

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We recruited bigger corners because they can be more physical. Defense was sitting for seven minutes with two timeouts taken before that final drive. They prolly were gassed but we still have to get our big corners in tight at los. Can't be afraid to give up the big play.
 

Aike

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We recruited bigger corners because they can be more physical. Defense was sitting for seven minutes with two timeouts taken before that final drive. They prolly were gassed but we still have to get our big corners in tight at los. Can't be afraid to give up the big play.

Right. Better to give up the big play and get the ball back, than to let them bleed out the clock and hit a chippy.
 

gojvc

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I agree with passive/conservative play calling....Stoops hallmark. However the inability of this team to make routine plays i.e. Badet handoff to GA, Conrad hold that took 3 off the board ultimately gave GA a shot and they made the routine plays.....just think, if we can find a way to lose to UT we may be able to move down around bottom feeder status with Vandy again! Misery loves company.....
Had Conrad not held that 3 off the board may have been 6 the other way.
 

BoNicholas

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Football is a game of small battles on every play. It's amazing what losing one of those battles can cost your team. The problem is, UK continues to lose to many.
 

Longtrip

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People get all emotional after a game like this and treat other with great disrespect. Some want to lay the blame on Badet who dropped a long pass he should have caught but these things happen, Kentucky was not the only team to drop a pass in this game. But the decision to play off Georgia's WR's in the final 3 minutes is a strategic mistake exemplified by the result of the game last night. Any football fan should ask themselves, given the same situation today would you still play the prevent defense when the game was tied and all UGA needed was a field goal to win? Never mind all the other stuff because at the point that last drive started the game was tied

Stoops choked by calling that defense. I suppose he was praying for a mistake by the Freshman Georgia QB. Kentucky football - I have been watching it for over 50 years.
 
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