This NY Times piece is spot on. The President Who Buried Humility
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Trump is arrogant, but that speech wasn't. Unlike Obama, who would reference himself up and down, Trump's inauguration speech was more of a "we" speech, and than an "I".
He has done and said so many bizarre things, it is easy to forget about a lot of them. This article is a good reminder of some of those things.
I heard someone make a great statement about Trump the other day. They likened his comments on things to a batter in baseball. He needs to learn not to swing at every pitch.
I heard someone make a great statement about Trump the other day. They likened his comments on things to a batter in baseball. He needs to learn not to swing at every pitch.
Riiiight... that's why he went bankrupt so hard in '90 they had to take his access away and give him an ALLOWANCE. I guess that's an "accomplishment" to a low output Trumpet.
I listened to the speech and thought that if USA was a stock symbol I'd sell based on his comments.
Looks like he made quite a recovery. What are your accomplishments beside being a internet troll?
I don't even think he's a good troll. No where near the days with Knox and Bud. Made is just a whiny, quantity poster.
I can give you a list of bankrupt people with amazing accomplishments. Henry Ford strike a bell to you? How about Walt Disney? HJ Heinz, ever heard of him? Milton Hershey, eaten his chocolates lately?
You are obviously not in business or knowvery little about it, particularly in real estate.
Obama was a community organizer. Why the arrogance?
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Interesting. Wall Street experts, including. Buffet are buying and you're selling. Keep selling, will help the rest of us make more profits.
You misunderstood my comment. The stock market and the perception of an Inaugural speech are two different things, it's an analogy! Get it?
You posted this:
I listened to the speech and thought that if USA was a stock symbol I'd sell based on his comments.
I'm generally pretty good at reading comprehension. You stated that after hearing Trump's speech you would sell USA stock (if the U.S. had a symbol). That to me sounds like you think the market under Trump's policies enumerated in the speech, is going down. Buffet and many other analysts disagree. You may well be right. Wall Street has been wrong before.
And your post is incorrect in another area. Why do you think the floor of the stock exchange has tv's? They want to hear what the policy makers have to say. It moves markets. Not sure how you can separate his speech from the market.
No, you're not. You have failed miserably. Everyone else knew he was speaking in a metaphor.
Given my post above please explain the "metaphor" to me? An analogy, which is the term the OP used, compares things so that we can see the relationship between them. In this case, Trump's inaugural speech and the USA as a stock. Thus, one can reasonably conclude that the OP thought the speech would cause a fall in the stock market. I pointed out how others, far smarter on the market than both the OP and me, think differently.
Wrong again, if the USA was a stock (emphasis on "a" stock) based solely on the content of Trump's speech I would sell. He paints a pretty bleak picture of the condition of this "company". I said nothing about the stock market in general, only specific to this one "stock".
"Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge; and the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential." And, "
One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind.
The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world."
Yep, I'd want to invest in that. How many shares can I buy?
But you completely ignored other parts of his speech. What he is going to do about it. The programs he laid out, very, very pro growth. That is why Buffet is buying. You may be right and Buffet, a democrat who supported Hillary may be wrong but please sell all your stock, I will be picking them up.
http://humanevents.com/2017/01/20/i...dent-trump-prioritizes-american-jobs-economy/
Please elaborate on these "programs". Tell me exactly how he is going to accomplish the things he said in his Inaugural speech. What are the programs laid out in his Inaugural speech?
Well, you could have read the article. But his policy prescriptions are lower taxes, lower corporate taxes, repatriation of overseas profits, greatly reduced regulations, $1T in infrastructure spending, specific plans for rebuilding inner cities, plans for improved education, particularly in inner cities, fair trade deals, focus on creating American jobs, etc.
In the Inaugural Speech... where is any program detailed in the Inaugural Speech? You said all I had to do was get these things from the Inaugural Speech, where are they?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/trump-inaugural-address/
Don't get me wrong, I love it when a President says they are going to invest in infrastructure, but you just posted last week that Trump was going to cut $10.5T over the next 10 years.
If he is going to have a net cut of $1T per year, with an increase of $1T per year in infrastructure spending, that means he cuts elsewhere in the budget by $2T per year.
And the annual budget is about $3.7T per year. So, he's going to cut $2T out of a $3.7T budget.
Impressive. [winking]
I wish more voters were more educated and less gullible.
It's going to be a beautiful, tremendous wall. But we won't have to pay for it of course. Mexico is writing a check. So that part he has all figured out. I hear Putin will pay for our new military that is currently in shambles. And China is going to pay for our new police force that will address gangs and violence in cities. See what happens when you have a deal maker in the WH? Magic **** happens. It's going to be fantastic. The best president ever. Bigly.
His speech was general but the themes the same: For example, from his speech.
“We will build new roads, and highways, and bridges, and airports, and tunnels, and railways all across our wonderful nation,” President Trump said. “We will get our people off of welfare and back to work — rebuilding our country with American hands and American labor. We will follow two simple rules: Buy American and hire American.”
“We will bring back our jobs,” President Trump said. “We will bring back our borders. We will bring back our wealth. And we will bring back our dreams.”
In addition, America will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world but with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first, President Trump said.
“Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families,” President Trump said. “We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength.”
President Trump added that the “forgotten men and women of our country” will not be forgotten any longer.
You can sell you stock now, I am buying.
Do you not get that saying these things don't make them actually happen?
Come to me with a plan, explain it to me, even if some of it may be wrong and if it is a good plan I'm all in.
This is just like saying my dad can beat up your dad.
You said you're a seller after his speech. I listed parts of his speech above. What about those elements cause you to sell, by the way, against what the vast majority of Wall Street analysts are recommending. If you sell, you must think you have enough information from his speech to make that call. I am asking you why, after reading his comments from his speech that I posted? You don't need a detailed plan, you've already decided to sell.
And as I have said, name any President that had detailed legislative plans so early? None.
Actually, FDR did in the first day and by the fifth day with banking legislation during the Great Depression.
I am talking about a President's program, not just one area. Trump doesn't even have a cabinet yet, except for two people. Today is far different than the FDR era. Things happen so much slower today.
Agreed, but incoming Presidents usually have certain programs and policies hammered out by the time they take office. FDR is just one example, and it was during a desperate time, swift action was needed.
Hopefully over the next few days some of those initial programs will begin to roll out. I'd really like to understand what direction he's going in, shotgun approach doesn't sit well with me.
Again, he needs a cabinet. Bills have started to roll out based on Trump's priorities and those of Ryan. The Senate can delay proceedings almost indefinitely, just look at the cabinet appointments. Obama had approved on his first day in office, Trump has 2.