This should go over well....

dave

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I thought everyone wanted justice? That is what they got.
 

Boomboom521

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I understand police officers being scared for and protecting their life, but 7 shots in a car with a 4 yr old girl in the back seat?

Permit to conceal and carry, tells the officer this, goes for ID....gets shot 7 times. White man or a woman is alive right now I'm thinking.
 

dave

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I understand police officers being scared for and protecting their life, but 7 shots in a car with a 4 yr old girl in the back seat?

Permit to conceal and carry, tells the officer this, goes for ID....gets shot 7 times. White man or a woman is alive right now I'm thinking.
Jury of peers heard the facts unfiltered from media spin and let him off. I guess it was a jury trial. I guess it ciuld have been a bench trial.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I understand police officers being scared for and protecting their life, but 7 shots in a car with a 4 yr old girl in the back seat?

Permit to conceal and carry, tells the officer this, goes for ID....gets shot 7 times. White man or a woman is alive right now I'm thinking.
Cant claim racism. The guy was Hispanic.
 

Boomboom521

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Cant claim racism. The guy was Hispanic.
But seriously, there IS racism between people other than white and black. In South Africa, there are blacks, whites, and coloreds.....if you call a colored South African black, they will take substantial offense. It's weird. Haitian Americans in Miami can't stand African Americans.....gang fights all the time over the bs. Ask a Latino gang member in LA if their is racism between Latinos and blacks.

But regardless, that's not what I'm talking about. I think this racial profiling (or proactive policing as some call it) contributes to these types of situations. I also think this officer was a bit too jumpy as well. And why 7 rounds? Fire superiority shouldn't be a domestic policy.
 

Mntneer

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It was a bad shooting. Maybe not enough to convict him of anything, but a bad shooting.
 

MountaineerWV

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I look at the crazy knife wielding guy in Portland just a few weeks ago. He was on a public sidewalk, waving a knife, and the cops STILL did NOT shoot him. That's where I struggle with some of these shootings.
 

Boomboom521

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I look at the crazy knife wielding guy in Portland just a few weeks ago. He was on a public sidewalk, waving a knife, and the cops STILL did NOT shoot him. That's where I struggle with some of these shootings.
I spoke with an FBI agent after Fergueson, and he said he was on bank robbery calls with suspects aiming loaded weapons at him and other agents, and everyone lived. He said the problem is training and psychological capacity. He said the training between police forces is substantially different too. That some departments just aren't getting the training they need.
 

TarHeelEer

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I spoke with an FBI agent after Fergueson, and he said he was on bank robbery calls with suspects aiming loaded weapons at him and other agents, and everyone lived. He said the problem is training and psychological capacity. He said the training between police forces is substantially different too. That some departments just aren't getting the training they need.

That's true around here. Talked to Sheriff's deputies in rural county, NC. The sheriff hires his buds, virtually no training whatsoever, sticks them on the streets. It's no wonder there aren't more lawsuits.
 

MountaineerWV

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That's true around here. Talked to Sheriff's deputies in rural county, NC. The sheriff hires his buds, virtually no training whatsoever, sticks them on the streets. It's no wonder there aren't more lawsuits.

I think a highly intense training is the best. Put pressure situations, requiring responses within seconds, will ultimately tell a person if they are fit to do the job or not. I've talked to a few officers locally and they told me that their training consists of watching some DVD videos, listening to lectures in a classroom style setting, and going to a firing range.