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Kingseve1

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Not going for politcal hate discussion type garbage.

I got one last year and love it. Fast as quick and no more time at the gas station or oil change station.
 

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I got the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4Xe. Not much electric range, but MUCH more horsepower and torque than without the electric boost. Getting about 700-900 miles on a tank of gas because I rarely drive it more than 40 miles/day
 

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How does it effect your electric bill? seems to me they are great for city dwellers but how about rural folks? How about long rode trips?
 

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How does it effect your electric bill? seems to me they are great for city dwellers but how about rural folks? How about long rode trips?
I haven’t noticed anything on the electric bill. I have heard with (12,000$) solar panels, you can potentially work off a surplus.

long road trips would be a *****, but not awful. Mine gets 350 miles to a charge. Most charging areas are in shopping centers, so you can eat while it charges. It takes an hour to charge at a supercharger, which are plentiful.

For instance, a Lexington to Destin, FL trip would be 700 miles. I would go 3 hours to Nashville. Eat and charge for 45 minutes and get it back to full. Then, I would drive through bama and either stop in bham, or Greenville, to charge and eat again for an hour. Then, I would drive it on down to Destin.
 

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I haven’t noticed anything on the electric bill. I have heard with (12,000$) solar panels, you can potentially work off a surplus.

long road trips would be a *****, but not awful. Mine gets 350 miles to a charge. Most charging areas are in shopping centers, so you can eat while it charges. It takes an hour to charge at a supercharger, which are plentiful.

For instance, a Lexington to Destin, FL trip would be 700 miles. I would go 3 hours to Nashville. Eat and charge for 45 minutes and get it back to full. Then, I would drive through bama and either stop in bham, or Greenville, to charge and eat again for an hour. Then, I would drive it on down to Destin.
I've heard the quick charge stations only work for Tesla automobiles - is that true? 45 minutes is acceptable to 'fill up'. 4+ hours on a regular charge to get another 150 miles is not.
 

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Can’t you charge them at parks and Walmart? Is there a charge to use those or free for “customers”?
 

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It takes an hour to charge at a supercharge


 

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Not enough charging stations. Infrastructure no where near ready to handle EVs on a large scale. Replacement batteries are outrageously expensive. You get stuck in a traffic jam you could run your battery all the way down. Especially in extreme weather. Geez Tesla server went down and folks were locked out of their cars. Guess you can tell I’m not a fan. 😉
 
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They are interesting, but charging infrastructure isn't up to snuff around here. Hell, it's not even practical for my own living situation given no electrical outlets outside. And no charging stations at work either.
 
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I've heard the quick charge stations only work for Tesla automobiles - is that true? 45 minutes is acceptable to 'fill up'. 4+ hours on a regular charge to get another 150 miles is not.
Honestly, I charge at home every 5 days, so I never need to charge the car at a charging station. I get 30 miles an hour of charge in the carport, so I wake up to 300 plus miles. Hard to use that up, unless I’m leaving the state.

Another Benny, is getting somewhere quick. You save some time when you can get to 50 miles an hour in 2 seconds. At a stoplight, I’ll leave the gas powered cars in the rear view without breaking the speed limit. Changing lanes and merging is a lot nicer as well
 

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I travel for work a good amount and Louisville/Kentucky in general is way behind like cities in infrastructure. I mean, it’s really not close. Am intrigued by the Mercedes EV, but the lack of infrastructure here makes it a no go.
 

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My RAM 1500 is a 2015 model. My dog, who is a shedding machine, is 11 years old. I really don't want to buy another truck until Sam has passed away. If I'm alive and can get another 4 years out of the RAM (which has had zero issues), I'll take a serious look at EV. We usually make 3-4 stops going between south Florida and east Tennessee anyway, so charging wouldn't be an issue for us on our longest trips.
 
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My RAM 1500 is a 2015 model. My dog, who is a shedding machine, is 11 years old. I really don't want to buy another truck until Sam has passed away. If I'm alive and can get another 4 years out of the RAM (which has had zero issues), I'll take a serious look at EV. We usually make 3-4 stops going between south Florida and east Tennessee anyway, so charging wouldn't be an issue for us on our longest trips.
JD, it would work well for you in that scenario, especially if you like to enjoy a meal for 45 minutes.
 
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I've heard the quick charge stations only work for Tesla automobiles - is that true? 45 minutes is acceptable to 'fill up'. 4+ hours on a regular charge to get another 150 miles is not.
So, Tesla has their own charging network. They are starting to make it available to non-Tesla cars overseas but right now Tesla only.

So the quick charging is known as Level Three charging or DC Fast Charging. There are multiple companies building out networks for these in the US. Electrify America, ChargePoint and EVgo are probably the most popular. They basically have charging stations all along in the Interstates and in multiple places in large cities. Usually at a Walmart or similar shopping center.

As for charging speeds on DCFC, most modern cars can go from 0-full in 45 minutes or less. That rate of charging continues to improve. Most of the new cars can give you about 80% charge in about 15-20 minutes. Physics slows down that last 20 percent. Range also continues to improve. The new Lucid Air is the current range champ. It can get over 500 miles on a single charge. As an incentive, most new cars come with a couple of years of free DC fast charging on one of these networks.

There are two other types of charging. Level 1 which is just using your regular 120 plug at home. This is slow, but if you plug the car up and let it charge over night, it will meet most of your day to day needs.

Level 2 is a 240 plug like your dryer uses. It will usually charge the car in three to four hours. Again, just plug it up at night and you are good to go in the morning. Most of the chargers/cars have features where you can tell it to charge when rates are the cheapest if your electric company adjust usage rates.

If you live in an urban area there are probably already some level 2 chargers spread out over your town that you can use. Several of them are even free. I just charge at home so I pay no attention to them. Plugshare is a great app you can use to see what is in your area. An app called A better route planner is great to use if you are going on a trip. It can help you plan when and where to stop and charge.

We own one electric car, and as soon as the market calms down we will buy a second. The cars are fun to drive, have little to no maintenance, and they are cheap to operate. If you are thinking about getting a new car I would suggest test driving one.

One last note. If you have seen a commercial for a self-charging Electric car, just ignore it. Honda and Toyota are lagging behind in getting into the EV market. So, they are using this new campaign to basically sell their existing hybrid cars.
 

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Sounds awful.
It’s awesome, those offshore rigs need to be pumping oil and providing jobs in the gulf. You still need coal and gas to produce electricity unless you are closer to dams 🍺
When the dims are out of the whitehouse fuel will go back down and plus while I fill that Suburban beast up I’ll have the wife go in to pick up a ice cold 12 of Miller Lite 🍺
 

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Just ordered a TESLA Model 3 Long Range a few weeks ago.

This is not my primary car, so using it on long trips is not a "must".

The charging network will only continue to grow, so that doesn't bother me much.
 
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My wife has a Tahoe. 3rd one. Can’t beat em for a family SUV. The 22s drive like a car compared to the

So, Tesla has their own charging network. They are starting to make it available to non-Tesla cars overseas but right now Tesla only.

So the quick charging is known as Level Three charging or DC Fast Charging. There are multiple companies building out networks for these in the US. Electrify America, ChargePoint and EVgo are probably the most popular. They basically have charging stations all along in the Interstates and in multiple places in large cities. Usually at a Walmart or similar shopping center.

As for charging speeds on DCFC, most modern cars can go from 0-full in 45 minutes or less. That rate of charging continues to improve. Most of the new cars can give you about 80% charge in about 15-20 minutes. Physics slows down that last 20 percent. Range also continues to improve. The new Lucid Air is the current range champ. It can get over 500 miles on a single charge. As an incentive, most new cars come with a couple of years of free DC fast charging on one of these networks.

There are two other types of charging. Level 1 which is just using your regular 120 plug at home. This is slow, but if you plug the car up and let it charge over night, it will meet most of your day to day needs.

Level 2 is a 240 plug like your dryer uses. It will usually charge the car in three to four hours. Again, just plug it up at night and you are good to go in the morning. Most of the chargers/cars have features where you can tell it to charge when rates are the cheapest if your electric company adjust usage rates.

If you live in an urban area there are probably already some level 2 chargers spread out over your town that you can use. Several of them are even free. I just charge at home so I pay no attention to them. Plugshare is a great app you can use to see what is in your area. An app called A better route planner is great to use if you are going on a trip. It can help you plan when and where to stop and charge.

We own one electric car, and as soon as the market calms down we will buy a second. The cars are fun to drive, have little to no maintenance, and they are cheap to operate. If you are thinking about getting a new car I would suggest test driving one.

One last note. If you have seen a commercial for a self-charging Electric car, just ignore it. Honda and Toyota are lagging behind in getting into the EV market. So, they are using this new campaign to basically sell their existing hybrid cars.
THIS^^
 

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Just ordered a TESLA Model 3 Long Range a few weeks ago.

This is not my primary car, so using it on long trips is not a "must".

The charging network will only continue to grow, so that doesn't bother me much.
Your gonna dig it. My business partner had the 18 model 3. Super quick.

it’s funny when other hot rod gas cars, pull up next to me at a light, and you can tell they want some. It’s never even close.
 
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One reason I read this thread was to see how long it would take before someone had to take the opportunity bash the Dims. 32 was the answer. Higher than I expected, 7 1/2 was the over/under line, so good job to most all for a pleasant discussion!

I bought a 4 cylinder auto last year to replace my 10 year old hybrid. On the highway, it gets 35 MPG and my hybrid only got about 40, so very little difference in hwy mileage. Much different story in town, but due to zoom and a lot of other factors, I hardly drive 600 miles a month, so an EV would take about a century to pay me back. My next car probably will be an EV though, I also hate to be someone that overpays as an early tech adopter. Everyone is making EVs these days, in a few years, the choice and range will be a lot better, or so I believe.
 

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One reason I read this thread was to see how long it would take before someone had to take the opportunity bash the Dims. 32 was the answer. Higher than I expected, 7 1/2 was the over/under line, so good job to most all for a pleasant discussion!

I bought a 4 cylinder auto last year to replace my 10 year old hybrid. On the highway, it gets 35 MPG and my hybrid only got about 40, so very little difference in hwy mileage. Much different story in town, but due to zoom and a lot of other factors, I hardly drive 600 miles a month, so an EV would take about a century to pay me back. My next car probably will be an EV though, I also hate to be someone that overpays as an early tech adopter. Everyone is making EVs these days, in a few years, the choice and range will be a lot better, or so I believe.
Fo sho! Everything doesn’t have to be political, especially when it’s simply baddass. EVs make a BMW feel like a Saturn.
 
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Analogy on the fly: Driving an EV compared to gas powered, is like playing golf, with a new driver that hits the ball 100 yards farther. It changes the game in a big way