But but but every new driver makes you hit it 20 or 30 yards farther, right? Isn't that what they tell you in Golf magazine?
Thoughts on EVs
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Where do y'all go to charge if you can't charge at home (like me)? Just seems like kind of a pain in the *** having to go somewhere and wait around for a while to charge your car.
Any outlets outside where you live? If not, you’d have to charge up at a charging station. May not be for you in that case, unless of course, if you just enjoy driving the fastest car on the road.
Any outlets outside where you live? If not, you’d have to charge up at a charging station. May not be for you in that case, unless of course, if you just enjoy driving the fastest car on the road.
I'm sure it is sometimes, but IMO the positives far outweigh the negatives.
No pumping gas when it's 20 degrees and the wind is howling.
No more service appointments for tune ups, oil changes, etc.
Many advantages an EV has over ICE machines. Disadvantages? Of course, it's different technology that takes getting used to...nothing is perfect.
We may hate the EV after awhile, but we will have an open mind about the differences.
Well, I'm not into that kind of thing. I already get that a lot when driving my BMW 335i Convertible and I just look over at them and smile. Usually, they give me a toothless smile back.
Only access to electricity outside of my house is a light bulb socket. If we need to use any electrical equipment, we have to run an extension cord from inside the house.
YEah, but don't you have to go outside to charge your car, and doesn't it take longer than filling up with gas? So how does that avoid the whole weather thing?
I won't answer for Chuck, but my guess is that you pull into your driveway/carport on a cold winter evening and spend 30 seconds plugging your EV up before going inside, or maybe you do it while going shopping or into a restaurant. IMO that's better than spending 3+ minutes outside at a convenience store, not to mention maybe getting gas on your hands. We don't have issues with cold weather here, but I'm still going to strongly consider buying an EV for my next vehicle.
I've been driving for over 20 years and can't remember a single time when I got gas on my hands when filling up my car.
Been driving for 48 years and have done it a few times. Got it on a pair of tennis shoes once. Had to toss them.
I got gas all over my face and upper torso when I was like 5 trying to pump gas. It was AWESOME. I cannot imagine not smelling gasoline ever again. And don’t get me started on the sweet smell of 2 stroke oil mixed gas.
Did you just say spending ONE HOUR to electric charge your car is better than THREE MINUTES at the pump, because that’s what it sounded like…amidst some gay shopping scenario?
You don’t have to church it up. Sure, electric is awesome…in some ways. Charging the mfer is not one of them.
One of the best things about a vehicle is freedom and ability to escape in an emergency situation. Your electric vehicle is going to be severely handicapped in an emergency…and that’s why anyone with means is not going to solely own an electric vehicle. It will mostly be poor middle class folks who drive to work and Target.
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Ok. I don’t understand basing decisions off of your political party. If you like it and it isn’t causing great harm, then who gives a **** what the ole men in DC think
Let the record show that user @P19978 supports segregation.
If you have an electric clothes dryer in your home, it's on a 220 circuit There is an inexpensive kit you can buy to modify the outlet so you can charge your car from it. Much less than paying an electrician $500.
Full disclosure I don't own an EV, but read a lot about them, might buy one at some point but only as a second car for local commutes. As many have pointed out there are pluses and minus, but like anything new I'm sure it will improve a lot over time.
Necessary torque to haul my camper or 21 ft bass boat would be an issue for me. Also, I live in a rural area where our electricity is subsidized and bills are high anyways. Not sure of the impact on my power bill. I can’t imagine pulling my boat to fish a tournament in Florida, Texas, or Michigan to fish and having to stop and charge my truck.
Imagine being stuck on the interstate for hours in an ice or snow situation. Or in a town that is hit by a tornado and without power for weeks. Give me gas or diesel.
Imagine being stuck on the interstate for hours in an ice or snow situation. Or in a town that is hit by a tornado and without power for weeks. Give me gas or diesel.
Nope: learn history. DEMOCRATS fought against integration... but that's ok, I wouldn't expect you to post anything factual and accurate.
Going into a Walmart/Sam's/Costco is gay? Who knew? It's also irrelevant, as the only time we'd be charging away from home is when driving between south Florida and east Tennessee. We usually stop at least 4 times anyway to get gas, stretch our legs, use the restroom and/or eat. By the time I consider buying one (probably 3-4 years), there will be improvements in milage, chargers and certainly more charging stations available.
I don't understand why some people follow/agree with stupid, misguided policies... but its a free country (barely)...
Nope: learn history. REPUBLICANS used to be the LIBERAL party and the DEMOCRATS the CONSERVATIVE party. Hence why the SOUTH largely used to vote DEMOCRAT prior to the 60s.
Or are you trying to tell me that the south used to be the bastion for liberal thought since the South used to be a reliable Democrat vote?
But that's ok, I wouldn't expect you to post anything factual and accurate.
This is good information. I will add that the batteries will probably degrade at an average rate of approximately 2% per year, meaning that if you keep an electric car for 7 years, its range will decline by approximately 14% over that time. A vehicle with a 300 mile range would have a range of approximately 258 miles in 7 years. Of course that range will be even lower in times of extreme temperature, driving over mountains, towing, etc. DCFC charging will cause the battery to degrade at a faster rate. While fast charging is necessary for people who travel, it's not as good for the overall health and life of the battery as slower charging rates. Your best bet for maintaining battery health and life is to charge the battery to 70% - 80% of capacity each night.
The software for battery management is improving all the time. Just like with cell phones, there will be less degrading over time as the software and battery chemistry improves.
Nio is a Chinese automaker that is taking a different approach to batteries. You essentially add a battery subscription plan to your car. Any time you want, you can pop into a station and just swap the battery. Takes about 3 minutes from start to finish. The video I attached goes through the entire process. Pretty cool tech!
Now that would be a game changer for sure. I did not watch the video, but can anyone just undock the battery, and hand it to a clerk, then walk out with a fully charged battery and pop it back in your car, which is then good to go another 300 miles?
The batteries in electric cars weigh around 1,000 pounds. You can't pop it out and back in. It requires specific machinery to do it. It would be like an oil change place with a machine that does the change out.
That is about what the battery in my hybrids weighed, I would imagine, and they cost a ton (although I had three hybrids, and only had to replace only one battery in all the time I owned them).
But Perrin is saying they can do it in three minutes, (still have not watched the video - I tried to load it and my computer would not let me) - they can change a 1000 pound battery in 3 minutes, or are we talking a totally different kind of battery for the EV?
Warehouses switched to battery-powered fork lifts decades ago.
No, not that simple. You should watch the video and FF up to around the 7:00 mark. It's more like a service station and they will pull your car into a service bay and start the process. Three minutes is pretty damn impressive to change the battery. That's only a little longer than it used to take me to swap out a forklift battery at work.
It's a YouTube video. If you have problems accessing it, then just search for Nio Battery Swap. They actually go through the process in real time. You arrive at the shop, a tech drives the car into a bay, and then a robotic process starts that switches out the battery. Takes about three minutes once the process starts. There is also an app that will let you reserve a time to get the swap taken care of so that you don't have to wait in line.
Nio builds their cars to specifically make this process quick and simple. There are a couple of aftermarket companies that are trying to do the same thing. You sign up for their service. They replace your existing barrery with one that is compatible with the battery swap system (ie, the bolts holding it in line up with the robot) and then you swap whenever you want.
Pretty awesome tech, and basically dead simple to operate.
Nio builds their cars to specifically make this process quick and simple. There are a couple of aftermarket companies that are trying to do the same thing. You sign up for their service. They replace your existing barrery with one that is compatible with the battery swap system (ie, the bolts holding it in line up with the robot) and then you swap whenever you want.
Pretty awesome tech, and basically dead simple to operate.
probably my security IT will not let me watch at work, I will do so later, thanks for posting
Sold my AEV Jeep Wrangler last fall for more than I paid for it, then picked up a Tesla Model S. Every day I drive this thing I'm excited. Dual motor and in the snow is like driving a lowered Jeep. But that 0-60 getup...hot damn (until a Plaid passed me today...my 3.1 second 0-60 time and 155 mpg top speed can't dance with the Plaid's 1.99s and 200 mph top).
Still have a gas guzzler as the wife wanted a 2021 Suburban (and we needed something to tow travel trailer).
Once Jeep gets their full electric Wrangler out (supposedly 2023 or 2024), I'll be eyeing it. The electric torque will be unreal in Moab.
240 NEMA in the garage gets me all I need on a scheduled late night charge session. I have unlimited free supercharging, but never need it and never go on long trips (yet) with the Tesla. And the new charge cost in the app is awesome. I spend about $20 over 45 days vs. $600 on gas in the Jeep I used to have over the same time period.
Dual motor is scary fast. If you have an unsuspecting passenger, a ludicrous punch will make em sick.