Thoughts on our freshmen

Midway Cat

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The only way you can have any quality at the 11th, 12th,and 13th roster spots is if they are KY kids.
No one of any substance is coming in from the portal to fill the back end of the roster.
Very valid point, and remember:

The scholarship limit increases to 15 next year.
 

SkyPrince1

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Very valid point, and remember:

The scholarship limit increases to 15 next year.
Really don't understand why any coach would want 15.
Can't see many P4 schools using all 15 unless their no longer planning on having walkon's.
 

ScottGreene22

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Our freshman are kids playing with grown men, KY’s oldest team. Im not worried this season its next season if you don’t see vast improvement you start to worry
 

CrazyCat74

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Really don't understand why any coach would want 15.
Can't see many P4 schools using all 15 unless their no longer planning on having walkon's.
Lol .. Right!

I can't see a coach wanting that either

I can't see any young player excited to be 11-15 on a college basketball roster either.
 

CrazyCat74

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Hard to grade freshman that gets limited spot duty or mop up minutes.

Noah- looks to me to be able to help most because he's a shooter, who's bigger and can play off the ball. Doesn't have that ball handling responsibility as much as others. I think he can help more right now actually.

Perry- I like the way he gets after it. Not afraid of mixing it up. He has a decent ceiling as well but athleticism will only take him so far. May be able to do what Braden Smith is doing at Purdue before it's all said and done. He just needs minutes to adjust to the speed of this level. He will be solid once that happens.

Chandler- I don't know what to think. He just looks so uncomfortable out there. He makes me uncomfortable watching him. I hope he loosens up a bit. You would think practicing everyday against grown men for a few months would shake off any rust fairly quick but I don't know. If like to see him get a lot more physical on the court.
 

KentuckyMildCats

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Wasn't the purpose to gradually develop these guys? So I'm not really disappointed it's what I figured they play like freshmen and a guy who hasn't played ball in two years. Now if these guys had the hype of Edwards or Wagner and played how they did last year then I'd be disappointed. But they're fine and year 2 they'll look a lot better, we're comparing them now to a bunch of 5th year seniors on our team lol
 
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Dr.LutherSan

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Regardless, if UK is playing poorly tomorrow, there will be at least one person that says to put in Travis Perry and/or Trent Noah because "they understand the rivalry". Book it.
 
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How many FR at P5 schools, especially at say top 25 schools actually MAKE an IMPACT. Not many. I think if you look at most years, you will see a lot of 5* recruits with something like 8 points and 3 boards a game, and 4* recruits with half that. You will see the occasional surprises, like we did with SGA, Herro, but those aren't common.

The biggest jump is usually from FR to SOPH year, because 1) players have that year of experience under their belt, and 2) a full summer of workouts to get into better shape, and 3) they are becoming more physically mature
 

IFerg1969

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I never watched Perry in high school so don't come at me... but I'm assuming he's a volume shooter.

It's tough to get going coming off the bench and playing 3 minutes a game with maybe 1 shot.

All the freshman are projects and likely will need to get stronger to get on the floor.
This is the answer, shooters need PT and shots.
 
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UKWildcats1987

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Am I wrong thinking next year’s team as it stands won’t be as good as this year?

Hard to say but I'd say we need to sign wilson and hope he and one other freshmen are ready to contribute big rotation minutes.

We will need to get some talent n transfer portal too.
 

SkyPrince1

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Am I wrong thinking next year’s team as it stands won’t be as good as this year?
We'll have to see how it all shakes out as all SEC team will have heavy personnel losses.
With the covid year going away, the super SR's(Robinson, Chaz Lanier, Johnell Davis etc ) will be gone as will the four yr seniors (Zeigler, Brakefield etc.)
You have OAD's like Fland,Tre Johnson, Asa Newell.
If we can get Oweh back I think he's a SEC POY candidate next season
 

carolinacat

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Interesting thread...my 2 cents:
1. Perry looks jittery out there to me....he's being sped up and he's rushing his shots. Form doesn't look smooth like you see on his tape. He's small, but I think he's athletic enough to be a pesky type on defense. Like Noah, he's not physically mature and needs to work on strength and conditioning. He'll be a good shooter over time.
2. Noah's stroke looks good but he's not exactly a skywalker. He's kind of a torso man in that he doesn't have long legs and will be a below the rim type player. He's doughy looking and needs to turn 10-15 lbs of that baby fat into muscle and I think we'll have something with him.
3. Chandler looks the part athletically...remember he's two years more mature than the other guys. I'll now be focusing on his small extremities based on another poster's take LOL. Small hands aren't exactly great for handling the rock.
 
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Dr.LutherSan

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The only thing that Reed Sheppard and Travis Perry have in common is their skin color, good shooters in high school, and from the state of Kentucky. Perry's highest ranking in his class was 76th(Rivals). However, it doesn't mean that he can't have a significant impact during his college career. The guy has three more years of eligibility left to improve and a coach that knows how to capitalize on his strengths and hide his flaws.
 

Shaudylo

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I never watched Perry in high school so don't come at me... but I'm assuming he's a volume shooter.

It's tough to get going coming off the bench and playing 3 minutes a game with maybe 1 shot.

All the freshman are projects and likely will need to get stronger to get on the floor.
Ding ding . I don’t know how good Perry will end up but I don’t take much from the games now . For the most part he’s been in late in blowout games which is hard to judge him on considering he’s not used to sitting all game and then coming in late . He’s also probably pressing .

Him playing a few minutes due to injuries he still hasn’t really been able to get in any kind of rhythm.
 
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rivercatinfl

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Too early to tell. They could become good, or they could not. Not every recruit pans out, especially 3 star in state recruits. If you’re lucky, they can become somewhat like Dominique Hawkins was.
Agreed. I think the biggest difference between our 3 freshmen vs Hawkins is the guys this year are good shooters. I know they haven't shown much yet but I firmly believe these guys will get much better.
I saw Perry and Noah play some in HS. They can shoot at a high clip.
For these guys, IMO, is a way bigger stage than they have ever seen even though they played there in the State Tournament.
Pressure on them to be good is big. The crowd moans each time they miss a shot. For them, I think it works on their confidence. Time will definitely help them.
 
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Tayshaun4Three

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The only thing that Reed Sheppard and Travis Perry have in common is their skin color, good shooters in high school, and from the state of Kentucky. Perry's highest ranking in his class was 76th(Rivals). However, it doesn't mean that he can't have a significant impact during his college career. The guy has three more years of eligibility left to improve and a coach that knows how to capitalize on his strengths and hide his flaws.
That is a blatant lie! They both have surnames that have two syllables.
 
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LmdCat

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All three have a ton of talent, and if they stick with it will be real nice college players.

But right at this moment they are out of sync with the flow of the game. Rushing shots. Overplaying and missing defensive position. These three are really true freshmen and are going to have to figure it at their own pace. All 3 hustle, all 3 want to do well. Their time will eventually come….perhaps even this year. As of last night though they struggled.
In this day of transfer with immediate eligibility they may not stay. I hope they do. They have skills. Not Chapman or Sheppard skills but that’s pretty high level. I’m more than willing to be patient and hope they are as well.
Shooting the ball well is not the same as having lots of talent. There are plenty of guys coming out high school who shoot the ball well. However, if that is all you can do, you are not going to be successful. If they all have a ton of talent, they are doing a good job of hiding it.
 

LmdCat

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Agreed. I think the biggest difference between our 3 freshmen vs Hawkins is the guys this year are good shooters. I know they haven't shown much yet but I firmly believe these guys will get much better.
I saw Perry and Noah play some in HS. They can shoot at a high clip.
For these guys, IMO, is a way bigger stage than they have ever seen even though they played there in the State Tournament.
Pressure on them to be good is big. The crowd moans each time they miss a shot. For them, I think it works on their confidence. Time will definitely help them.
They are good shooters, but they are too darn slow.
 

Seth_C

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Yeah. I was at the game Wednesday and it was obvious his shots weren’t close from the moment they left his hand. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen such bad shooting from a “good shooter.” He’s putting way too much pressure on himself.