Tillerson

[moe]

More potential conflict of interest. Hopefully there are a couple in Trump's cabinet that aren't looking to enrich themselves or the companies that they are coming from.

Tillerson developed his close ties with Putin as he negotiated a deal with Russian oil giant Rosneft to provide access to lucrative oil resources in the Arctic. The agreement will be at the center of his confirmation hearing. For his efforts, Putin awarded Tillerson Russia's prestigious Order of Friendship in 2013. The deal has so far not yielded its promise.
Exxon was hit hard by a round of US and European Union sanctions that targeted Russia in 2014 for its intervention in Ukraine. Exxon said it could have lost up to $1 billion due to the sanctions, according to regulatory filings.
The sanctions issue will provide ammunition for Democratic senators keen to probe apparent glaring conflicts of interests across the nascent Trump administration.
Even if Tillerson were to sever all links and investments related to ExxonMobil, action he took as secretary of state -- for instance, advocating the lifting of sanctions against Russia over its annexation of Ukraine -- could clearly benefit the firm and his former industry.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/12/polit...-secretary-of-state-exxonmobil-ceo/index.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/13/rex-...llions-at-stake-over-sanctions-on-russia.html

 

[WVPATX]

More potential conflict of interest. Hopefully there are a couple in Trump's cabinet that aren't looking to enrich themselves or the companies that they are coming from.

Tillerson developed his close ties with Putin as he negotiated a deal with Russian oil giant Rosneft to provide access to lucrative oil resources in the Arctic. The agreement will be at the center of his confirmation hearing. For his efforts, Putin awarded Tillerson Russia's prestigious Order of Friendship in 2013. The deal has so far not yielded its promise.
Exxon was hit hard by a round of US and European Union sanctions that targeted Russia in 2014 for its intervention in Ukraine. Exxon said it could have lost up to $1 billion due to the sanctions, according to regulatory filings.
The sanctions issue will provide ammunition for Democratic senators keen to probe apparent glaring conflicts of interests across the nascent Trump administration.
Even if Tillerson were to sever all links and investments related to ExxonMobil, action he took as secretary of state -- for instance, advocating the lifting of sanctions against Russia over its annexation of Ukraine -- could clearly benefit the firm and his former industry.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/12/polit...-secretary-of-state-exxonmobil-ceo/index.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/13/rex-...llions-at-stake-over-sanctions-on-russia.html

Social conservative not happy with pick. Tillerson championed gay marriage and also threatened funding for the Boy Scouts if they did not allow openly gay men and boys from participating.

But he will be confirmed. Condi Rice made a huge endorsement as did James Baker, both very moderate former Secretaries of State.

As for Exxon's business interests in Russia (Exxon is all over the world), Hillary accepted hundreds of millions of dollars from the Gulf Countries and then came out against fracking. Hmmmm.

 

[moe]

As for Exxon's business interests in Russia (Exxon is all over the world), Hillary accepted hundreds of millions of dollars from the Gulf Countries and then came out against fracking. Hmmmm.

So you have no comment regarding whether having Tillerson as SOS could pose a potential conflict of interest as related to any future lifting of sanctions against Russia. That's good.

 

[WVUBRU]

So you have no comment regarding whether having Tillerson as SOS could pose a potential conflict of interest as related to any future lifting of sanctions against Russia. That's good.

I simply don't understand why he wants to leave the current position of ceo of Exxon to be SoS. I believe his confirmation will not being a slam dunk.

 

[Mntneer]

I simply don't understand why he wants to leave the current position of ceo of Exxon to be SoS. I believe his confirmation will not being a slam dunk.

It's like going from coaching at Alabama to coaching at Northern Alabama.

 

[moe]

I simply don't understand why he wants to leave the current position of ceo of Exxon to be SoS. I believe his confirmation will not being a slam dunk.

He'll get grilled more than any other cabinet nominee it would seem.

 

[moe]

It's like going from coaching at Alabama to coaching at Northern Alabama.

I read where he was nearing retirement anyway so this will keep him from watching soaps all day. Ego stroke and (even more) personal enrichment down the line would be a couple of perks.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

I simply don't understand why he wants to leave the current position of ceo of Exxon to be SoS. I believe his confirmation will not being a slam dunk.

A sense of duty or pride? I think he and his family are pretty secure financially.

 

[WVUBRU]

A sense of duty or pride? I think he and his family are pretty secure financially.

Possibly but I'm afraid conspiracy theories are going to go crazy as being a Putin pawn inside of our government. It is going to be messy. I will wait for facts before forming an opinion .

 

[WVPATX]

So you have no comment regarding whether having Tillerson as SOS could pose a potential conflict of interest as related to any future lifting of sanctions against Russia. That's good.

You have a very short memory. Do you know what Dick Cheyney did before becoming VP? He ran Halliburton. Huge international company with enormous ties to countries around the world.

There are many options for Tillerson. A blind trust for this Exxon stock. Stepping down from all Exxon positions. Selling Exxon stock, over a period of time in his blind trust, given that some stock is probably frozen from the market. This issue has been faced before and dealt with.

 

[WVPATX]

I simply don't understand why he wants to leave the current position of ceo of Exxon to be SoS. I believe his confirmation will not being a slam dunk.

I agree with you. Why leave Exxon as CEO to become Sec State? Pay is horrible. Travel terrible. He is playing second fiddle to Trump and he plays second fiddle to no one at Exxon.

Maybe, just maybe he feels an obligation to serve his country that has provided him so much. I have no doubt he is NOT doing this to further enrich himself. How much money does he need? He is already worth hundreds of millions of dollars, if not more.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

You have a very short memory. Do you know what Dick Cheyney did before becoming VP? He ran Halliburton. Huge international company with enormous ties to countries around the world.

There are many options for Tillerson. A blind trust for this Exxon stock. Stepping down from all Exxon positions. Selling Exxon stock, over a period of time in his blind trust, given that some stock is probably frozen from the market. This issue has been faced before and dealt with.

Waaaaaay bad example. Halliburton and Cheney made big dollars off of our invasion of Iraq.

 

[WVPATX]

Waaaaaay bad example. Halliburton and Cheney made big dollars off of our invasion of Iraq.

I believe you're wrong. Cheney sold all stock. His stock options put in a blind trust and all proceeds went to charity.

From a Fox News interview of Factcheck.org

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/10/07/truth-about-cheney-ties-to-halliburton.html

Cheney took extraordinary steps to avoid conflict. But the Dems and the liberal media lied about his ties after he left Halliburton. He gave the equivalent of $8M in stock to charities (his stock options). No one said a word about that.

 

[WVUBRU]

Waaaaaay bad example. Halliburton and Cheney made big dollars off of our invasion of Iraq.

And Cheney was in government before . Typical bs from that guy posting crap representing it as factual

 

[mneilmont]

I simply don't understand why he wants to leave the current position of ceo of Exxon to be SoS. I believe his confirmation will not being a slam dunk.

It probably would not be considered a business decision. Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would expose self and family to any of the positions. After confirmation hearings, "Where do I go to get my good name back". That was appropriate comment for what people are going to be put thru in an attempt to b good citizens and serve the country.

Unfortunately, the DC insiders do not want to have outsiders into their society and they will try to block entry. Some more good folks are unfortunately going to be Borked.

Why would he be involved? Probably because he was asked to join in and do his civic duty. He has been successful and he probably feels a need to contribute to society.

 

[Mntneer]

I read where he was nearing retirement anyway so this will keep him from watching soaps all day. Ego stroke and (even more) personal enrichment down the line would be a couple of perks.

Howard Stern was talking about Trump running at 70. And summed it up as (paraphrasing) "Why, when you maybe have 10 good years left, and when you have places like Mar-a-lago to stay at, all the money in the world, would you want to even think about spending 4 to 8 years being President."

 

[moe]

He is already worth hundreds of millions of dollars, if not more.

Then he'll be a piker in this admin.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Howard Stern was talking about Trump running at 70. And summed it up as (paraphrasing) "Why, when you maybe have 10 good years left, and when you have places like Mar-a-lago to stay at, all the money in the world, would you want to even think about spending 4 to 8 years being President."

Ego.

 

[bornaneer]

a Putin pawn.........I will wait for facts before forming an opinion .

LMAO....which way do you want to play?

 

[moe]

You have a very short memory. Do you know what Dick Cheyney did before becoming VP? He ran Halliburton. Huge international company with enormous ties to countries around the world.

There are many options for Tillerson. A blind trust for this Exxon stock. Stepping down from all Exxon positions. Selling Exxon stock, over a period of time in his blind trust, given that some stock is probably frozen from the market. This issue has been faced before and dealt with.

Yes and who provided troop support services in the second gulf war? Haliburton. You still don't address any potential roll back of Russian sanctions. I guess we'll see what being a card carrying friend of Russia is all about. You and others gave BO hell for Russian aggression but I guess everything is cool now.

 

[WVUBRU]

LMAO....which way do you want to play?

Way to take my entire comment out of context. And you wonder why you have zero credibility and get zero respect.

 

[WVPATX]

And Cheney was in government before . Typical bs from that guy posting crap representing it as factual

Cheney was running Halliburton when he became VP. He was not in government at the time. What difference does it make that he was a prior Congressman earlier in his career? It has ZERO relevance to this discussion.

 

[WVUBRU]

Cheney was running Halliburton when he became VP. He was not in government at the time. What difference does it make that he was a prior Congressman earlier in his career? It has ZERO relevance to this discussion.

Cheney held many positions in government and then became an executive in a company . This guy has spent entire career with Exxon. Cheney had a love for politics and public policy and always had. You made a bad comparison on many different levels by posting half truths. It is what you do which gives you no integrity on anything. You are a dishonest troll.

 

[bornaneer]

Way to take my entire comment out of context. And you wonder why you have zero credibility and get zero respect.

Me and many others know who has the credibility problem. I also don't care two ***** about respect when it comes to hypocrites and dolts like you. The only thing you are good for is a few laughs once in a while.

 

[mneilmont]

And Cheney was in government before . Typical bs from that guy posting crap representing it as factual

And you can substantiate your statements as fact? Now, that is BS to the n/th degree.

 

[mneilmont]

LMAO....which way do you want to play?

Taking a definite maybe position. He probably feels very strongly both ways.

 

[mneilmont]

Way to take my entire comment out of context. And you wonder why you have zero credibility and get zero respect.

Eyes rolling.

 

[mneilmont]

Me and many others know who has the credibility problem. I also don't care two ***** about respect when it comes to hypocrites and dolts like you. The only thing you are good for is a few laughs once in a while.

Ouch! You are so brutally honest.

 

[Airport]

I read where he was nearing retirement anyway so this will keep him from watching soaps all day. Ego stroke and (even more) personal enrichment down the line would be a couple of perks.

I would doubt that he is going to be able to enrich himself any further. Maybe he wants to try and make a difference. Kerry married wealthy and was completely clueless. Tillerson made his money thru hard work. Now, humping those ugly rich women that he was married to does take some work.

 

[dave]

I simply don't understand why he wants to leave the current position of ceo of Exxon to be SoS. I believe his confirmation will not being a slam dunk.

He has to leave Exxon because they have a mandatory retirement age.

 

[atlkvb]

So you have no comment regarding whether having Tillerson as SOS could pose a potential conflict of interest as related to any future lifting of sanctions against Russia. That's good.

I can see him going in as SOS and actually arguing FOR sanctions against them (Russia) if they don't stop their expansionist policies or behave in the Ukraine. It's huge leverage for us because once America starts producing its own energy it won't need Russia's or anyone else's. Certainly under Obama, we had very little leverage to punish Russia for its annexation of Ukraine against our wishes. We sat by with our thumbs up our asses, while they rampaged an important ally.

So yes, I can see him arguing against his own financial interests in the case of Exxon/Mobile in order to put the Nation's interests first when it comes to containing Russian aggression in the middle East, Ukraine, or anywhere else.

America first. That includes Exxon/Mobile.

 

[WVUBRU]

He has to leave Exxon because they have a mandatory retirement age.

Good info. Thanks

 

[moe]

We sat by with our thumbs up our asses, while they rampaged an important ally.

We (and other countries) put sanctions on Russia for their Crimea and Ukraine expeditions. Removing those sanctions would be of benefit to Exxon who would move forward with projects in Russia that are now held up by those sanctions. Being a former Exxon CEO and medal wearing friend of Russia is of concern to some on this issue and regarding his friendly relationship with Russia, a traditional enemy of the U.S.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Ukrainian_crisis

 

[bornaneer]

Ouch! You are so brutally honest.

Yes...thats what separates me from the likes of Bru. He never takes any responsibility for anything. Anyone with half a brain knows how he feels about Tillerson. He's already made up his mind.

 

[mneilmont]

Yes...thats what separates me from the likes of Bru. He never takes any responsibility for anything. Anyone with half a brain knows how he feels about Tillerson. He's already made up his mind.

Well, do you think that Bru may know him personally from his extensive advising career? Anyone so adamant in their position probably has personal knowledge of the object to take the stance he has taken - so adamantly. He has already stated he needs to wait for the facts before making a judgement. Surely he would not make unfounded comments about someone without sufficient verification of the opinions that person has.

 

[WVPATX]

Yes and who provided troop support services in the second gulf war? Haliburton. You still don't address any potential roll back of Russian sanctions. I guess we'll see what being a card carrying friend of Russia is all about. You and others gave BO hell for Russian aggression but I guess everything is cool now.

And who did not benefit one bit by Halliburton's business in Iraq? Cheney. Read the article I posted with the interview with the fact check organization.

I am not sure what you mean by roll back of Russian sanctions. Russia, as Romney pointed out. to Obama, is our largest geopolitical enemy. Obama, of course, dismissed Romney's claim, even derided his analysis. Look at who is laughing now.

I would definitely sanction Russia for every aggression. They must be stopped from their hegemony.

 

[bornaneer]

Well, do you think that Bru may know him personally from his extensive advising career? Anyone so adamant in their position probably has personal knowledge of the object to take the stance he has taken - so adamantly. He has already stated he needs to wait for the facts before making a judgement. Surely he would not make unfounded comments about someone without sufficient verification of the opinions that person has.

Who cares if the beancounter knows him.

 

[mneilmont]

Hopefully there are a couple in Trump's cabinet that aren't looking to enrich themselves or the companies that they are coming from.

Looks like that is a very good possibility. Looks like every damned one of them will bring untold fortunes with them as they accept their position. Hell, maybe we could kidnap all of them and pay off our national debt.

 

[WVUBRU]

Who cares if the beancounter knows him.

Boy, you sure do look ridiculous and show everyone you are a worthless poster along with the other complete fools.

Just wait until I share an opinion on the guy if you want to rip me. geez.

 

[mneilmont]

Who cares if the beancounter knows him.

Easy now, I have been a bean-counter all my professional life and have not associated with anyone on this gentleman's personal level. Do you think I may not have worked hard enough to gain that status? Damn, I would hate to think I have been a failure - and I have already retired. I worked long and hard hours. Just didn't climb the ladder to land in that group.