Tipping at Starbucks, etc

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That's not accurate. There is no law capping their wage at $2.13/hr. They must be paid a minimum of $2.13/hr, but the employer could pay more. However, if their tips do not add up to raise their total pay to at least $7.25/hr, then the employer is on the hook for the difference.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.htm
Uhm, the minimum is that. So yes, its correct.The prevailing culture/business model in this area, has $2.13. By your logic we could pay them a gazillion dollars...However, not the reality we live in.

Also, the argument was based off we live in a tipping culture. Some of you look to get out of that. Im sure a lot of servers make minimum $20/hour, doesnt take away from the simple truth, we live in a tipping culture.

I guess some of you cheap asses could pretend we live in Europe and that candy grows on trees.
 
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I, much like everyone else here on the Paddock, roll in money so why not waste it on a cup of coffee each morning? Sure I can make it from home but that's no fun.

I just filled up my gas tank and walked inside to tip the lady behind the counter for having the gas available to me today.
 

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Because by tipping the bartender you get stronger drinks and don't have to wait as long for your next drink if the bar is crowded.
 
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Different argument tramp stamp. The $2 is a response to a restaurant argument.

That being said, we have certain social norms in our society. One is men don't get tramp stamps. Second, you tip various service industry workers. These both seem beyond your grasp of understanding though.

The problem is you were using the $2 an hour garbage as a rebuttal to the Starbucks tip jar. Which, in your own words isn't the same. Folks makin a wage other than the reduced wage for tipped employees should never get a tip.
 

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Folks makin a wage other than the reduced wage for tipped employees should never get a tip.
By your logic, we shouldnt tip parking valets, hotel staff, bartenders, cab drivers, haircut, massage, coat check, movers, etc. There are functions of our society. These are all people who make regular wages.

No, the problem is you are missing the argument, that in this culture, we tip certain service industry workers, and some are more justified. For example, as a normal server, they make less because of tips. Coffee shop workers are tipped workers, but not the normal 15-20% range. Doesnt mean you dont tip because they dont fall into this.

I get you lack certain comprehension skills based on getting a female tattoo on your back, but this isnt hard. Just because you want to live a reality where male tramp stamps are ok, or not tipping baristas is ok, doesnt mean it is. Its normal social etiquette.
 

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Like I said, nothing better than getting done with a nice meal, good service, and realizing you just saved 15% to 20% off your total bill. Over the period of a year, it really adds up.

I highly suggest everyone do this. In a tight economy, really a great way to save.
 

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The base pay for servers varies from state-to-state. My daughter is a server here in AZ. She makes five-something as a base. She was a server in CA and OR and she made minimum wage plus tips. My wife was a server for several years ($2 base) and was treated like crap. Restaurant managers are generally awful human beings to their employees. I sympathize with servers so I am a generous tipper.
 

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I, much like everyone else here on the Paddock, roll in money so why not waste it on a cup of coffee each morning? Sure I can make it from home but that's no fun.

I just filled up my gas tank and walked inside to tip the lady behind the counter for having the gas available to me today.

Good on you. That extry two cents probably helps more than you know.
 

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Nothing like being a cheap *** that doesnt understand how society works. Its a great way to save for a new tramp stamp!
 

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Rule of thumb for tipping on take-out orders: If you would tip a server while dining in the restaurant, you should tip the person that handles your to-go order there as well. Doesn't necessarily need to be as much, 10-15% is usually acceptable.
 
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Rule of thumb for tipping on take-out orders: If you would tip a server while dining in the restaurant, you should tip the person that handles your to-go order there as well. Doesn't necessarily need to be as much, 10-15% is usually acceptable.


Yep. I agree
 

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The base pay for servers varies from state-to-state. My daughter is a server here in AZ. She makes five-something as a base. She was a server in CA and OR and she made minimum wage plus tips. My wife was a server for several years ($2 base) and was treated like crap. Restaurant managers are generally awful human beings to their employees. I sympathize with servers so I am a generous tipper.

And servers and cooks are generally dirtbags with chemical and/or emotional dependency issues. It's really a match made in Heaven if you ask me.
 

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I was under the impression that all the servers, cooks, bartenders, custodians, etc just pooled all the tips and split them up equally. I've never been a server, so I have no idea how things are done... Which would be the true socialist way of doing things. [eyeroll][sick]
 
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By law, a server's base wage + tips must meet the standard minimum wage ($7.25/hr). If their tips don't cover that, the employer has to make up the difference. So they are guaranteed $7.25/hr whether they get tipped by the customers or not. Although if that happens, they'll be looking for another job anyway.
 
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We have a Starbucks in our building in downtown Louisville. I tip $1 first thing every morning, but they refill my cup for $.53 the rest of the day. So I generally get 3 grande coffees for $4 each day. Our work coffee sucks and it's too much trouble to keep fresh half and half in the fridge so whatever on the cost. Cheap coffee guy rants are kind of funny to me though, especially when cheap coffee guy pays $1 for Circle K coffee that is absolutely terrible. At least go to McDonald's or something, their coffee is actually worth a $1 after it cools off for 20 minutes.
 

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McDonalds coffee is good, especially for the price.

Chick-fila coffee on the other hand is crap. Didn't know they could make coffee that bad.
 
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At least go to McDonald's or something, their coffee is actually worth a $1 after it cools off for 20 minutes.
Deep down I always thought I was a *** for letting my McCoffee cool off for half the morning. Thatnk you for restoring my faith in my own masculinity!
 

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Deep down I always thought I was a *** for letting my McCoffee cool off for half the morning. Thatnk you for restoring my faith in my own masculinity!
I wish some of you big spenders where around when i worked at Boone Tavern. Tips not allowed. I made 89 cents an hour, 40 bucks a month. Served the Governor and suits and tie types. Snooty Bass Turds. .
 

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I wonder how at-table kiosks (where you can order, request refills, pay, etc) have affected tipping at those particular restaurants.
 

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I try and be generous with tipping because I worked at a restaurant for a while. I also don't go in a restaurant 30 minutes before they close, things like that.

I will say, though, I don't really like when an expensive order-at-the-counter restaurant has you seat yourself, get your own drink, refills, come get your food, bus your table... and then have a tip line? Sorry, no. I actually think that's kind of audacious.
 

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I will say, though, I don't really like when an expensive order-at-the-counter restaurant has you seat yourself, get your own drink, refills, come get your food, bus your table... and then have a tip line? Sorry, no. I actually think that's kind of audacious.


Yeah, they usually call that place Golden Coral.
 

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I wish some of you big spenders where around when i worked at Boone Tavern. Tips not allowed. I made 89 cents an hour, 40 bucks a month. Served the Governor and suits and tie types. Snooty Bass Turds. .
My grandpa slipped a $100 bill to our server on the side every single time we ate there.
 
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I wonder how at-table kiosks (where you can order, request refills, pay, etc) have affected tipping at those particular restaurants.

It should have reduced them. Machine is doing half of what you were tipping the person to do. Get it right.
 

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I don't know, I always thought tipping was a gentlemanly thing to do. Growing up, I was taught to tip servers, barbers, tailors, hell, I even tip the dudes who deliver appliances or furniture. It just seems kind of wrong not to.
 

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Like I said, nothing better than getting done with a nice meal, good service, and realizing you just saved 15% to 20% off your total bill. Over the period of a year, it really adds up.

I highly suggest everyone do this. In a tight economy, really a great way to save.
I would advise you not to make this a habit at the same restaurant.








Disregard.... Please proceed
 

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In the case of Starbucks, the tips are split between all the employees once per week based on how many hours they worked. So a 20 hour/wk employee probably ends up with a few extra bucks a week ($20 or less), since most people either don't tip at all or drop the coins in so they don't have to fool with it. Either way, the drive thru person seriously didn't give a **** about your two pennies.
 
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I tip 20 percent or morel in full service dining establishments. I tip pizza drivers $5 minimum for saving me the trip to the store. To-go orders get about 12 percent. I take care of my solid foods providers.

OTOH, If you're pouring liquid you get the remaining coin portion of my change (barista) or the token $1 spot every third drink or so (bartender). If running a tab, barkeep gets a great tip because I'm generous while f'd up.

*It should be noted I haven't been to a bar in a many years and I get coffee that I didn't make maybe 3 times a year.
 

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Making a case for Starbucks having worked there for a couple years : tipping is not required. If you feel like avoiding awkward exchanges to avoid the tip, use your card. No additional space for the tip on the receipt. Order, pay, leave. No one is going to hate on you.

As far as the two cents is concerned, I bet no one batted an eye. Trained never to do anything but thank the person who put whatever they felt like leaving.

However, as someone already pointed out, the tips at Starbucks are distributed amongst everyone who works at that location. The tip jar/box is collected during the shift, sealed and deposited for a later date. Even the barista likes a little extra for the hard work, throw them a little. You might be helping more than you know.
 

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Making a case for Starbucks having worked there for a couple years : tipping is not required. If you feel like avoiding awkward exchanges to avoid the tip, use your card. No additional space for the tip on the receipt. Order, pay, leave. No one is going to hate on you.

As far as the two cents is concerned, I bet no one batted an eye. Trained never to do anything but thank the person who put whatever they felt like leaving.

However, as someone already pointed out, the tips at Starbucks are distributed amongst everyone who works at that location. The tip jar/box is collected during the shift, sealed and deposited for a later date. Even the barista likes a little extra for the hard work, throw them a little. You might be helping more than you know.

My granddaughter has been a barista at Starbucks for about five years. Her store is inside a grocery store. They could not accept a tip even if was placed in their hands. There was a tip jar but the store donated the tips to charity. About a year ago they finally got to keep their tips. Divided up, it's not much - but better than nothing.