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Tom Allen gone??

Nittering Nabob

Nittering Nabob

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Asked to look elsewhere by Franklin or Dabo was out shopping? Not a huge loss IMO. He called a great 1st half vs ND, but wasn't prepared in the 2nd Half.

Bring home Al Golden, Elijah Robinson (from 'Cuse) or...D'Anton Lynn :cool:
 
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Nittering Nabob said:
Asked to look elsewhere by Franklin or Dabo was out shopping? Not a huge loss IMO. He called a great 1st half vs ND, but wasn't prepared in the 2nd Half.

Bring home Al Golden, Elijah Robinson (from 'Cuse) or...D'Anton Lynn :cool:
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Robinson is a great DL recruiter. When he was at A&M he brought in the best DL class a few years back.
 
Phlebitis

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Nittering Nabob said:
Asked to look elsewhere by Franklin or Dabo was out shopping? Not a huge loss IMO. He called a great 1st half vs ND, but wasn't prepared in the 2nd Half.

Bring home Al Golden, Elijah Robinson (from 'Cuse) or...D'Anton Lynn :cool:
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I kind of disagree here. I think he’s been a great addition to the coaching staff and it would be a loss. As far as the Orange Bowl, it was pointed out here he had to prepare the defense for the ND backup QB at halftime, and for the first time in history a player knocked senseless cleared concussion protocol and came back in. After thinking about that a bit I don’t totally fault him for that first drive in the 3rd.
 
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Phlebitis said:
I kind of disagree here. I think he’s been a great addition to the coaching staff and it would be a loss. As far as the Orange Bowl, it was pointed out here he had to prepare the defense for the ND backup QB at halftime, and for the first time in history a player knocked senseless cleared concussion protocol and came back in. After thinking about that a bit I don’t totally fault him for that first drive in the 3rd.
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With an entire halftime to prepare, he couldn’t come up with a game plan for both quarterbacks? If that’s true, then I wouldn’t want him back.
 
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Alphalion75 said:
Robinson is a great DL recruiter. When he was at A&M he brought in the best DL class a few years back.
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And most of them probably transferred out the next year. A&M seems to have tremendous roster turnover
 
psuro

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Nittering Nabob said:
Asked to look elsewhere by Franklin or Dabo was out shopping? Not a huge loss IMO. He called a great 1st half vs ND, but wasn't prepared in the 2nd Half.

Bring home Al Golden, Elijah Robinson (from 'Cuse) or...D'Anton Lynn :cool:
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Manny Diaz's defense gave up 15.3 PPG over two years, and Allen was only slightly behind at 15.9 (this year).
Allen is also a Frank Broyles candidate, so some knowledgeable people recognize his talent. Of the assistant coaches CJF brought in, Allen is more valuable than the other two.
 
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BobPSU92

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psuro said:
Manny Diaz's defense gave up 15.3 PPG over two years, and Allen was only slightly behind at 15.9 (this year).
Allen is also a Frank Broyles candidate, so some knowledgeable people recognize his talent. Of the assistant coaches CJF brought in, Allen is more valuable than the other two.
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But Manny has better hair. That’s worth another PPG. So, 14.3 vs. 15.9.
 
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Marshall2323

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psuro said:
Manny Diaz's defense gave up 15.3 PPG over two years, and Allen was only slightly behind at 15.9 (this year).
Allen is also a Frank Broyles candidate, so some knowledgeable people recognize his talent. Of the assistant coaches CJF brought in, Allen is more valuable than the other two.
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I think it can be difficult to come in as a coordinator when the staff is entrenched Dex, Smith, Conner and Deion. Perhaps he doesn't have as much autonomy as he'd like? Personality can play a role in the building. Or perhaps his wife isn't happy here? Lots of possibilities that aren't about _$$ or Xand O.
 
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psuro

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Marshall2323 said:
I think it can be difficult to come in as a coordinator when the staff is entrenched Dex, Smith, Conner and Deion. Perhaps he doesn't have as much autonomy as he'd like? Personality can play a role in the building. Or perhaps his wife isn't happy here? Lots of possibilities that aren't about _$$ or Xand O.
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He is also not gone (yet). Right now this is just a lot of talk.
 
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WestSideLion said:
It might also be leverage for a pay raise. Clemson isn’t exactly on a great arc right now. Allen would be the first one under the bus if they lose 3-4 games next year.
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It could be any one of a number of things.

My point is that I believe he is most valuable assistant CJF brought in this past year. His loss would be a big deal. There are other good coaches out there.

BTW is Nattering Nabob our old friend Julian from the old board?
 
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psuro said:
It could be any one of a number of things.

My point is that I believe he is most valuable assistant CJF brought in this past year. His loss would be a big deal. There are other good coaches out there.

BTW is Nattering Nabob our old friend Julian from the old board?
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I don’t think so. LdN is on the other board only.
 
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psuro said:
It could be any one of a number of things.

My point is that I believe he is most valuable assistant CJF brought in this past year. His loss would be a big deal. There are other good coaches out there.

BTW is Nattering Nabob our old friend Julian from the old board?
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Disagree. Kotelnicki did more with less. Did you watch the WRs this year?
 
psuro

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Bvillebaron said:
Disagree. Kotelnicki did more with less. Did you watch the WRs this year?
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I watched the entire team this year. I know the WRs did not perform, but they have not performed in a couple of years - did you watch the WRs in the last couple of years? If you are looking at the WRs, then AK did not do more with less - he did less with the same.

2022 - 35.8 ppg;
2023 - 37.6 ppg

2024 - 33.9 ppg

So, AK is down 1.9.3.7 PPG, with the the same WR problems and issues. And, PSU had a better running game in 2024 than 2023 team did. But still less points per game.
 
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psuro said:
It could be any one of a number of things.

My point is that I believe he is most valuable assistant CJF brought in this past year. His loss would be a big deal. There are other good coaches out there.

BTW is Nattering Nabob our old friend Julian from the old board?
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I thought maybe he was Pete's Pool Boy?
 
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psuro said:
It could be any one of a number of things.

My point is that I believe he is most valuable assistant CJF brought in this past year. His loss would be a big deal. There are other good coaches out there.

BTW is Nattering Nabob our old friend Julian from the old board?
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Thirsty phyrsty/peetz pool boy/bw lion
 
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I do remember how it sort of surprised his wife when the PSU offer came in and he really wanted to get back into coaching right away. Perhaps there is a familial influence with this lateral move.
 
BobPSU92

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Jesus. PSU is a BLUE. BLOOD. o_O and finished #4, as a playoff semifinalist, and lost the DC to a lateral move.

How many programs in PSU’s position lose a coach to a lateral move? For f*ck’s sake.

For one reason or another, there is no continuity in Franklin’s staff. Lots of turnover.
 
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I'm hearing James didn't fight too hard to keep him. So there's that. Lots of noise about staying internal. The usual suspects plus Dan Conner.
 
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BobPSU92 said:
Jesus. PSU is a BLUE. BLOOD. o_O and finished #4, as a playoff semifinalist, and lost the DC to a lateral move.

How many programs in PSU’s position lose a coach to a lateral move? For f*ck’s sake.

For one reason or another, there is no continuity in Franklin’s staff. Lots of turnover.
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Yes, it's not good for the BWICAC to have coaches leave willingly. They want the chance to fire them!
 
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