At what point do we stop letting them blame all the former wrestlers, recruits and current wrestlers for the problems between them and everyone else. If what I heard is true about the things they said to Endene then they need to be shown the door, today.
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Good question and I don't think tonight's results are going to help them in any way. 
Why dont you post what you have heard
We needed another thread on this for sure.
There's some chatter about how TNT wanted Mo to wrestle even though he was hurt. Impacts to NIL. No one really knows if it's true or not, but why doesn't iowa give these coaches a spokesperson or training around delivering news. Their current way doesn't work.
āMy 97 is quitting on me.ā
Illuminating.
C'mon man! 2 things:
A: The key word here is IF
B: See Duke Lacrosse, circa 2006
Since the beginning of time it's not wise to convict and execute people without PROOF. (with the possible exception of O.J. Simpson
)Great, we definitely needed another thread on this.
Too many things have happened over the last 10 years to continue to think it is always someone elses fault. The one common denominator is TnT. Look at Terry on the sidelines. Classless. Why have every stud wrestler that wrestled for them gone elsewhere?C'mon man! 2 things:
A: The key word here is IF
B: See Duke Lacrosse, circa 2006
Since the beginning of time it's not wise to convict and execute people without PROOF. (with the possible exception of O.J. Simpson
How about some compassion from his coaches. Is that too much to ask from those 2 clowns? You don't treat or talk to your athletes like that.
Thereās really no point in speculating on the Endene situation without any facts to back it up. Iām not a diehard TnT at all costs guy, but a lot of people are just using this to support whatever narrative they already believe
they should've been fired years ago... portions of the sport have passed them by and they continue to coast. but hey, top ten in March is always good...
So its a fact that he spoke those words?
I've been an Iowa wrestling fan for a very long time. My best friend in High School was a Hawk Wrestler. I contribute to the wrestling program in a lot of ways and have been to every conference tournament and Nationals for a long time. Watching TnT on the sidelines has gotten old pretty quick over the last few years. Add to that everything else I hear and that OUR TEAM is truly not fun to watch anymore, it is past time for a change.
Weāll see but I imagine thereās probably fire with this smoke so Iām a little more comfortable speculating, given that the events described by āwrestling.insider.updatesā align with how similar situations went down while I was there, except NIL $ was not involved then so there was no incentive to remove guys from the team.
From what I am hearing from guys, yes. Do we really doubt it after watching and listening to Terry lately? I don't.
Can you explain to me how Duke Lacrosse and the Endene situation are even remotely similar?C'mon man! 2 things:
A: The key word here is IF
B: See Duke Lacrosse, circa 2006
Since the beginning of time it's not wise to convict and execute people without PROOF. (with the possible exception of O.J. Simpson
You think he was talking about this after it was discussed ad nauseum in about four other threads, including one he started?
You know what, on second thought, itās possible.
I can buy about 2/3 of it. And that is certainly awful enough if true. Can totally see it. But it goes off the rails when it talks about money. Iowa is not out there pinching pennies. And the backpack thing? Good Lordā¦
Rumor has it Kyle Dake was shoveling Beth's driveway this morning before heading to Dennys for a meeting over a grandslam platter... look for him to be sitting by her at the meet tonight... Beth said do to the iowa wrestling forum on the internet she has to start looking for a new HC
idk man I havenāt seen any other supposed words that were said so that was my assumption
I've advised Beth that Yianni should be part of the package. How exciting!!!
And I never even mentioned itās like three days old. Lol.
The OP does live in an interesting world, in your defense. No idea what he was referring to, either.
If it wasnāt the bluebird diner then I donāt believe you for a second.
Dake yanni is best idea ive heard
You live in a basement, probably your moms, and this is the highlight of your day. You have no idea who I am. I am around this program more than probably 97% of the people on here. I'm just not a TnT nut licker. Our program deserves better than we are getting from the guys at the top and if you don't agree you are part of the problem.
Should be fired on the mat tonight.
Can we get a coach that doesn't allow the knee on the mat for 3 straight periods?
How are we all feeling after this Iowa team just dropped the worst defeat ever at home?Good question and I don't think tonight's results are going to help them in any way.
I feel bad for our wrestlers. Thereās no reason all these talented kids are not shooting and being more aggressive. There is such a massive coaching discrepancy in the development of technique, especially from their feet.