Tom Herman just proved
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I think he is a great coach. I also think they just prove that TX HS football is very good and a 3* from there may not be equal to 3* from elsewhere...
Florida and TX are states that I'd up my thoughts on a recruit due to the competition they have been exposed to.
Also think it helped going up against a hobbled 2nd string QB and a 3rd stringer.
Florida and TX are states that I'd up my thoughts on a recruit due to the competition they have been exposed to.
Also think it helped going up against a hobbled 2nd string QB and a 3rd stringer.
He also proves why it's absolutely imperative to hire a guy with head coaching experience. Oh, wait a minute....
Yea because Tony Levine was just killing it before he got fired last year. Go check out their recruiting rankings if you believe that. Herman is just a top notch coach. It doesn't take long to see if you know what you're doing or not. Look in our own conference at Dan Mullen for further proof. He inherited a dumpster fire at MSU and got it rolling in Year 2.
Weren't you just hammering that dual threat QB that was unranked, that coaches just offered to come to Kentucky?
Seems like you're contradicting yourself here.
Seems like you're contradicting yourself here.
Oh, I know. It seems pretty obvious, just aggravating that he won't at least be consistent.
Well...not really. The beat FSU team that was playing a ruefully freshman QB with a cast on his foot for most of the game. And again, one game does not prove anything in terms of depth. How do you think Houston would have faired if they were playing their 3rd string in key positions?
Hmm so now I guess a 3*** Texas kid is really a 5*****? I've been reading for years how a kid from Florida/ Georgia is much faster than a Ohio kid is and how they are ranked lower but should be much higher.
A kid from ohio who runs a 4.4- 40 is much slower than a kid from florida who runs a 4.4- 40 and is turtle slow compared to a texas kid running a 4.4- 40. I'm wondering why TV Williams who is from Texas who is really a 5 star cannot beat out those Ohio kids who are over ranked?
I'm wondering how that Texas who gets nothing but these kids is not in the playoffs every year?
Go back and read my posts throughout the years. I'm as die hard UK as anyone but I'm tired of accepting excuses.
The point is that we can't even develop our 4 star talent like Hatcher, Horton, Towles or Ware (who apparently has never seen a read option before) and now we're taking some kid who needs a lot of coaching up and expect him to save us if Barker gets hurt? Sorry I'm not buying it (anymore anyway).
Developed a 2 star TE into a 1st round DE. It works both ways big fella. Some players come along faster than others.
You're still a troll though, and you need to get the troll's treatment.
Don't need a roster full of 4 and 5 stars to get through the AAC...or beat a down FSU with a second string QB with his foot all taped up...
we beat an FSU squad in a bowl game once as well...and Clemson...
but I agree with the idea that coaching, developing, scheme, play calling, and execution are all just as important if not more important...
but let's not forget that regardless of their class rankings, Houston has roster full of Texas talent...
...in a lot of cases a 3 star from the lone star is about equal to a 4 star from Ohio, Kentucky, and just about anywhere else...hell a good 2 star from the Houston area would probably dominate the kentucky high school football ranks and be all state...
It's why Baylor, TCU, and Tech can all field competitive teams...Mike Leach never had a losing season with the raiders because of it...
Texas needs to be the next target for Stoops...after he establishes something in florida...he needs to head west...
i'll take the left overs from texas over the leftovers from Ohio any day of the week...
we beat an FSU squad in a bowl game once as well...and Clemson...
but I agree with the idea that coaching, developing, scheme, play calling, and execution are all just as important if not more important...
but let's not forget that regardless of their class rankings, Houston has roster full of Texas talent...
...in a lot of cases a 3 star from the lone star is about equal to a 4 star from Ohio, Kentucky, and just about anywhere else...hell a good 2 star from the Houston area would probably dominate the kentucky high school football ranks and be all state...
It's why Baylor, TCU, and Tech can all field competitive teams...Mike Leach never had a losing season with the raiders because of it...
Texas needs to be the next target for Stoops...after he establishes something in florida...he needs to head west...
i'll take the left overs from texas over the leftovers from Ohio any day of the week...
Then why are we waisting time and resources when all we have to do is offer a lowly 3 star kid from Texas who has next to no offers from major programs? We would have the best performing class in UK history. I'm just waiting for TV Williams to live up to his 4 star ranking.
He's a good coach, but today was just the latest example of team A beating team B in a bowl game, not because A was better, but because A was fired up about playing and B was disinterested. Happens several,times every year. So, yeah for Houston, they played well, they deserved to win, FSU got what they had coming, etc. But don't tell me Houston is the better team, at least not based on today. Same as when Utah beat Bama, Louisville beat Florida, and on and on and on.....
P.S. Even if I'm wrong and you want to argue Houston went toe to toe with might FSU and beat them down with 3 stars......there's a difference between doing it once, and doing it repeatedly like you have to in this conference......
Actually they were within a couple of inches on a QB sneak against LSU from a sixth win in year one. Croom left him with a 5-6 QB. A six footer and he would have been bowing right out of the gate.
i was at those two games against FSU and Clemson in what some in the BBN are now calling the Banjo Bowl. I seemed more excited to be there than the Tigers and Noles. See how that works?
Agreed. Houston wasnt good last year. Then this year they beat 2 teams we got beat by and flat whipped Vandy. It is the results of coaching and development. Especially Greg Ward, if I recall he was benched a couple times last year.
Houston was impressive. Like you, I don't think it's totally about the # of stars. It's more about an organization that can evaluate players, develope players, a system that puts players in positions to succeed individually and as a team.
It's always fun to debate who the best coach in college football is. I tend to give the nod to Urban over Saban because he has the better coaching tree.
There is always a sunshine pumped waiting to play the "you're a UL fan" card when they run out of other options. You can set your watch by it.
Dan Mullen is in a state with a lot more talent than Kentucky and can supplement roster holes with the MS JUCO system
If you can't see Houston is a well coached team then you need to get your eyes checked. With that said, UH doesn't quite have the road UK has when it comes to tough competition week in and week out or the recruit battle in conference. You see plenty of upsets come bowl season but still Houston would blow us off the field
I was at both of those games as well. The only reason some UK fans have been calling the Music City Bowl the Banjo Bowl is because that's all we heard, ad nauseam from the UL fans. See how that works?
Yes, Herman did inherit a pretty good team. He inherited a team coming off back to back 8-5 seasons, and returned a very good, experienced QB. Phil Steele picked them to win their division of the AAC in the preseason. Congrats to Herman & the Coogs, but it's not like he inherited a 3-9 or 4-8 team.
What you should have said was IF they win i'll be a fan..................Sorry but that's not a diehard fan.
What you failed to mention is that there are two P5 programs in the state as well as a CUSA team. LSU is closer than MSU or UM to the South MS talent, especially that on the Gulf Coast.
Bama is 50 miles to the east. And almost every school in the south uses the MS Juco system. A lot of the elite players in that league aren't from Mississippi.
And then there's that little issue about MSU and Ole Miss having to compete in the SECW as opposed to the LEast.
It is arguably every bit as tough to win at those schools - if not harder - than it is at UK. Yet those schools are doing it despite both coaches inheriting train wrecks. Which is why I don't buy the Stoops needs 5 years narrative.
I said I will still be at home watching every minute on tv. I will just choose not to go to the games until I see a better product on the field.
UK had the 60th ranked schedule in the country. Have no idea what Houston's was - it doesn't really matter -but UK doesn't have it so bad week in and week out playing in the SECE.
We will never know but Florida had a cakewalk through the east and they aren't very good. I think Houston is much better.
FSU embarrassed Florida in the Swamp by a score of 27-2...Houston is legit...wasn't for a late season injury to Greg Ward they may have went undefeated and will not be surprised if they enter 2016 Preseason Top 15