Tom Herman
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Herman was 54-22 as a HC. 6 winning seasons (5-0 in Bowl Games), 4 Top-25 seasons, 2 Top 10 seasons and 2 Top 5 recruiting classes. Pretty solid resume to me.
He would be able to keep the good offensive players and attract a big time portal QB. Could keep Chin as DC, which should keep the best players on that side of the ball. Or if he get a better one, even better.
He would be able to keep the good offensive players and attract a big time portal QB. Could keep Chin as DC, which should keep the best players on that side of the ball. Or if he get a better one, even better.
I’d be happy with this hire.
7-3 his last year at Texas. 3 losses were very close too : lost by 2 to TCU, lost by 8 to OU in 4 OT, and lost by 3 to Iowa State
He also won two games in OT and another against WVU by 4 in that last year at Texas
7-3 his last year at Texas. 3 losses were very close too : lost by 2 to TCU, lost by 8 to OU in 4 OT, and lost by 3 to Iowa State
He also won two games in OT and another against WVU by 4 in that last year at Texas
Hope he is really trying to learn from the Bears in the NFL. It's a solid back up plan, especially if he agrees to hire top solid assistants utilizing our big budget ( he could have hired almost anyone for OC at Texas and hired his buddy Tim Beck, very Frost and Pelini like)
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I hadn't thought about it, but it would be a good thing to measure former head coaches' success in one-score games. For the record, Herman was 5-3 at UH and 14-13 in UT.
He ran the ball a lot as an OC at OSU then let Beck pass too much. If he learned from that I would be OK with it
We could do a lot worse. Power 5 head coaching experience. Good recruiter. Knows the B1G. I'd like the hire.
I thought it was weird for Texas to hire a flash-in-the-pan mid-major coach like Herman, but most of his coaching career has been in Texas. His teams were pretty inconsistent, beating a ranked team one week, then losing to an unranked one the next. The fans in my office blamed a lot of the problems on OC Tim Beck.
Don’t you think we could get him too, as a reclamation project? As opposed to a lot of the “hot” names right now…. Aranda, Fickell, (fill in non-Chadwell name). I don’t think they’ll be coming to Lincoln with USC, LSU… etc open
might be a solid fit:
-B10 experience
-TX recruiting knowledge
-young still
-winning record
-great bowl record
-hot wife
might be a solid fit:
-B10 experience
-TX recruiting knowledge
-young still
-winning record
-great bowl record
-hot wife
With the resources and in-state talent Texas has, Texas (with a good HC) should be able to win conference championships regularly, especially in the Big 12. This gives me pause on Herman...
I thought it was odd when Texas canned Herman. His final team was tough as nails, albeit in a Covid year. Herman runs an N-like offense that is heavy on the run game. I believe he fits the Husker football model, coached in the midlands, and would be a fine choice when Frosty is let go if he is after this season. That's based on watching Texas against K-State. Texas was better under Herman than they are today under Sark.
Even thought it is Texas and they have alot of resources. He followed a guy that was 16-21 and recruited in the 20's.
In 2014, a third string quarterback lead the team to a conference championship and 2 playoff wins. I don't think anything like that had ever been accomplished before. You have to give Herman a lot of credit for that. He also did extremely well at Houston. His major mistake at Texas was hiring Tim Beck. All of a sudden the high power offenses he had lead everywhere else turned anemic at Texas with that decision. I think the offense was making strides his last year at Texas, and I don't think he was given a fair shot there. I don't think he'd be my first choice, but he's a great coach and should definitely be high on the list.
I thought our philosophy here was that 4 years is enough time to get your own players for your system to work as intended...
Tom Herman had 3 top 5 recruiting classes while he was there. This is great....But that level of talent didn't translate to the kind of team Texas was looking for (obviously). Granted, we know it isn't just about player talent. Coaching matters also.
Are you suggesting he wouldn't be able to recruit a running back to Lincoln? Because he had Elliot as a starter his last season as OC there and averaged more yards a game rushing (300) the year (2013) he wasn't a starter. Averaged 46 rushes to 26 passes. He averaged 46 rushes a game every year the three years he was OC for Meyer. Things changed when he hired Beck as OC at Texas.
This is an idiotic take. He was 7-3 during a Covid year and he was finally getting the offense humming along. Texas was stupid to fire him and replace him with a drunkard who failed everywhere else as a head coach. Florida is stupid for wanting to fire Dan Mullen. These decisions are about on par with Nebraska firing 9 or 10 win head coaches and replacing them with Callahan and Riley.
I agree Beck was a huge mistake, but I don't think it's just because he passes the ball. If you don't have a running back like Elliot, running the ball that much is going to be a lot less effective. Texas had nowhere near the caliber of talent at RB or the ability to achieve anywhere near as effective a running game as Ohio State had in that national title season.
So its the staff before him, and Covid for his inability to win a conference championship at a school with top resources and talent. Got it.
They were pretty darn good last year. I thought UT made a mistake letting him go and hiring Sark.
Sark was clearly a bad hire for them. Texas realistically should be able to draw a better quality coach. and in hindsight, giving Herman more time there would have been a better play than hiring Sark. That's not even the debate though...
What's the debate then? Sure every school wants to hire Nick Saban, but that's not particularly realistic, is it?
That shouldn't be a first year goal.
Herman's RPO has no business being 50/50 run/pass regardless of the RB. It would be just as true in Lincoln as it was in Austin.
I don’t think the guy has anything to apologize for at Texas. He took a losing team, had a winning record his first year and a top 10 team his second year. He had two Top 5 recruiting classes in his second and third year. Those guys were Fr and So when he was canned and that year they were pretty dam good. It was just plain stupid for Texas to fire him.