LOL go watch the film. Our Ends crashed 90% on the zone read. While Jackson is a phenomenal talent we aided the Louisville comeback immensely by playing poor technique and angles.
Tom Leach looks ahead to UK football season
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LOL go watch the film. Our Ends crashed 90% on the zone read. While Jackson is a phenomenal talent we aided the Louisville comeback immensely by playing poor technique and angles.
No, because you are a poser. Transvestites and Cardinals, always posing...
If he were so unbelievable I think he would've secured the starting QB job at some point before the bowl game.
He has talent. He has flaws.
We keep telling the mods, but they can't seem to catch on. I bet he goes by notch8 or louisvillenative on their Scout board.
He absolutely is. He's on the UofLoL board ridiculing us. He should have been jacked out of here days ago.
Lay losses to Auburn, Vandy, and UofL, squarely on coach Stoops.
While I think Jackson is very athletic his game against a UK defense not properly playing their zones had very much to do with his success.
Just hope with new coach additions Mark will devote his time coaching defense!
While I think Jackson is very athletic his game against a UK defense not properly playing their zones had very much to do with his success.
Just hope with new coach additions Mark will devote his time coaching defense!
So says the man who creates a fake account just for the purpose of trolling. Your fanbase does this all too often. Pathetic.
That would still have to be bad defense. I don't care if he's Walter Payton he shouldn't be able to cut inside and go untouched. There isn't a QB that has been born that could go untouched if the option is played perfect. If played perfect it should go for a loss.
I would have to agree with this. Auburn maybe not quite as much because they did jump out to a good start which you have to credit Auburn. We were outplaying them at the end but just couldn't score. Still UL and Vandy were games that you should win 90% of the time or more. Not only was our defense not playing particularly well but if our offense had not totally collapsed then we run the game clock out. even not stopping them we would have won if we just pick up a few 1st downs.
When Boom went out the running game went with him. That allowed UL to just bring the house and Barker just looked like a deer in the headlights.
We have not shown an ability to stop a running QB and the defense is vanilla. We STRUGGLED with EKU!
That being said, hopefully, having a good running QB in practice this season will help. Its much harder to prepare without having a dual threat QB that is equal to or almost equal during preparation.
If they don't show great improvement this season then Elliot and/or Stoops has to be put under a magnifying glass.
That being said, hopefully, having a good running QB in practice this season will help. Its much harder to prepare without having a dual threat QB that is equal to or almost equal during preparation.
If they don't show great improvement this season then Elliot and/or Stoops has to be put under a magnifying glass.
Seldom does a pre-season, off-the-field event provide the sort of insight about an incoming college QB, yet the foot race that Jackson ran in 2015 Fall was rather prophetic. Later a UL staffer told Reggie Bonnafon that "he knew Reggie was pretty fast, but compared to Lamar, Reggie looked slow". Reggie purportedly runs a 4.4 forty, but no one has identified Jackson's 40 yard speed.
In fairness to Auburn, Tx A&M & UK defensively .........I do not think any football team can prepare for that level of speed.
In fairness to Auburn, Tx A&M & UK defensively .........I do not think any football team can prepare for that level of speed.
seems very simple to me. the offense lack of production, put the defense on the field way too much. Must have a good balance, offense & defense. Barker is the key to the offense this year. If he does not produce early in the season, I sure hope Gran will make a change to Johnson. smart people make changes, Guess what the ones who do not are called?
Come on. LOL. So he makes 4.4 forty speed look slow? Talk about exaggerating. He's pretty fast, but he ain't Usain Bolt, ok? So we have a college football player in Jackson who has never ran a timed forty yard dash??? I guess if he was ever timed he'd probably go 4.2???
I mean, since he is apparently the fastest man in the world, I guess he should have played every snap of every game last year and just run around the end and fly to the end zone, every single play.
LOL. If you read these clowns posts on their Scout board, you might as well pencil them into the playoffs. In all reality, the best they will probably do is another Banjo bowl.
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He did beat Rondo pretty handily in a foot raceCome on. LOL. So he makes 4.4 forty speed look slow? Talk about exaggerating. He's pretty fast, but he ain't Usain Bolt, ok? So we have a college football player in Jackson who has never ran a timed forty yard dash??? I guess if he was ever timed he'd probably go 4.2???
I mean, since he is apparently the fastest man in the world, I guess he should have played every snap of every game last year and just run around the end and fly to the end zone, every single play.
I would take him.
Taking him is a little different than saying I do not think any football team can prepare for him. But you already have him so be happy.
That is exactly why I posted those other team names. Some teams have an easy time with it.
Well, he was a true FR. Yes, he has flaws but he has a few years to work on them. It was QB roulette all year long at UofL, something totally unexpected of a CBP team. FWIW, I think his play against UK "secured" his spot as the #1 for the bowl game. After getting the 1st team reps/attention during the bowl practices I thought he looked "more comfortable" at the position.
OK, I did do a quick re-watch.
In the first half his big run(s) came off scrambles (including the 16 yard TD run on his first series). In addition to the TD scramble he ran the ball twice for 8 and 13 yards. Most of the option game came in the second half. In that half he netted 149 yards on 14 carries. I don't know how many were scrambles but he gained about 10 yards on 3 option based plays. Yes, UK's "contain guys" crashed down some but not "90%" of the time. On those plays...
(1) His 50+ yard run from 11 personnel in a pistol/trips set against what looked like a 4-2-5 alignment. UK had a stunt on against that play. Miiggins went untouched through the B gap (OT was blocking down) straight at the mesh point while the CB (Stamps?) flew up as the "contain" guy. The CB was easily pushed out by the TE. Miggins tackled the RB to the ground never seeing that Jackson pulled the ball a now had a HUGE C gap running lane and was tackled some 50 yards later. This was more about the right play against the called defense.
(2) Jackson also had at least 3, maybe more, 15 yard plus runs on the "inside zone read". On consecutive plays he simply beat Ware then Hatcher to set up UofL's go ahead score. On the run to Ware's side Jackson "rode" the RB laterally widening Ware's position then just ran inside him (much as he did Hatcher on his half TD run). Nothing backside here; the ball was moved to the left and when Ware chose chased the outside the QB pulled and ran inside him.
On the next play they ran almost the same thing to Hatcher's side except except the early run action was a straight dive action and a quick pull by the QB. Jackson was in 1 on 1 with Hatchers and simply outran him to the edge for about a 10 yard gain. Again, nothing went "backside"; the run went to the side of the RB's action
These plays are examples (and there are more) that the defense can play it "correctly" but still get beat by a superior athlete. Which brings me to...
i disagree here TB. When properly executed the option is the most difficult play in football to consistently defend. When executed properly the option is going to make 1 defender "wrong" no matter what he does. And when you have a guy with Jackson's foot speed AND his very good ball handling skills (something often overlooked in his skill set) I think the field is tilted in favor of the offense. JMO
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The offense last year averaged 17 points in sec games... Leaving out Alabama how many teams in SEC can win averaging 17 points game... I know what that damn sure can't and it's called Kentucky
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I second this part of your your post:
" I have a feeling that between Gran and Hinshaw, Barker will at least be serviceable and serviceable is really all that is needed in this style offense. We have a good size arsenal of offensive weapons between RB's, WR's and a TE who will play on Sundays. If the coaches and Barker can figure out how to successfully distribute the ball to these guys we can all go ahead and take some vacation time in late December or early January."
It could be a great offense if Barker lives up to his rating, but he won't have to improve at all to look much better this year with the improved talent and coaching the offense should have.
think you can also throw Florida in that mix more so than you could Auburn... two years in a row that we could have / should have beaten both Florida and Otis
Here's why I disagree. Both offense and defense have 11 defenders. The one defender doesn't have to be wrong. Pick up your assignment and stick with it and you're right whether the QB keeps or gives. The problem is that we have all defenders chasing the ball. Even when the RB is no threat at all. Also just sticking with your man isn't enough you have to be in position to cut the play off. You don't get separated from your DT. If the DT next to you gets a good push then you close in. If he basically gets stood up then you keep your spacing. Also you come up field a yard and no more. If you are too flat then you can't create an edge to turn the play back in. Pictured the DE/OLB positioned 1 yard across the LOS and close enough to the DT that if both were to extend their arms straight out they would touch. If the OLB is in that position it is a loss on the play. If the OLB is somewhere else it could be positive yards. If he crashes down then it's a huge gain.
The option is difficult to defend because it requires discipline to defend it. Teams that are disciplined don't have issues with it. Teams with poor discipline get shredded.
For $3M, I'll give it a shot... Did I say it was easy? I just think a dude like Frank Solich would've easily guided UK to 6 wins with that puss schedule.
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Barker doesn't even have to be great. If he is just hartline-esque this year we should get 6 wins.
Why is it that UofL was just "awful" the last two games vs UK?? As if you guys were juggernauts both years and just played terrible portions of both games when UK had big leads? Like UK had nothing to do with it. The last two seasons you guys have been plenty inconsistent vs several teams, just like many average college football teams are. God knows UK needs to put up or shut up vs UofL and finally win one but you guys haven't beat a ranked team in over 3 years and don't act like it's rare or a fluke when you don't play perfect football vs a team that you aren't exactly towering over in superiority. A near flawless powerhouse you are not.
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This is a discussion that cannot be handled on a message board but needs a face to face discussion with a chalk board. And maybe some adult beverages. [laughing]
But I will say that the best running teams ever were the old OK, TX and NE teams that ran triple option offense. Defenses finally figured out you could play "assignment defense" against these offense and even commit extra defenders to the running game because these teams basically had no passing game. And a big reason for that was so much practice time had to be devoted to execution of the triple option there was little time left to "develop" much of a passing game. OTOH, the "spread option" reads and executions are (IMO) much easier to execute. It can be easily integrated into just about any direct snap offense by any QB who has better than average foot speed. JMO.
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I don't think we played awful in either game, we did have some really costly turnovers (which is part of the game).
The last two game averages
Total yards
UofL 455.5
UK 309
Turnovers
UofL 3.5
UK 2
I think for us to be successful, we will need to be in the top 6 in rushing in the conference. Gotta ride our horses and they are in the backfield next to Barker.
I'm a HUGE fan of read option based offense. Just my opinion, but my ideal split is 55-60 run to 40-45 pass. Our interior offensive line will be really really good between Toth, Haynes, GAA and co.
I'm a HUGE fan of read option based offense. Just my opinion, but my ideal split is 55-60 run to 40-45 pass. Our interior offensive line will be really really good between Toth, Haynes, GAA and co.