Too early How many games will we win next year?

How many games will we win next year?


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Gmoney4WW

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We know our coach, we know we lose 38% of our scoring, 20% of our rebounding and 49% of our assists. How will it work out?

We probably lost that much or nearly that much without Haggerty and the rest last year. Hopefully the additional nil gets us at least a little more fire power this year. I'm guessing we win in the 13-17 range. I may change my mind after I see who leaves and who we add.
 

TU 1978

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It depends on who the coaching staff is next year. The same staff will produce the same results as this year - or probably worse. Justin Moore needs to take action now like he did with football.
 
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Gmoney4WW

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It depends on who the coaching staff is next year. The same staff will produce the same results as this year - or probably worse. Justin Moore needs to take action now like he did with football.
They've already announced he will be here next year. That game is over.
 
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chito_and_leon

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We played 33 games this season. Of those 33, we played one game against an NCAA tourney team. Does Konkol improve the schedule or can we expect more of the same ?
Asking honestly, what would you suggest? I'm on the fence. Feels like we need to be able to win against bad teams before loading up on good ones. If we had a top 50 schedule, we would have struggled to win 10 this year. I think next year will be the same. He schedules like Wojick but still can't win 15.
 
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I.I.

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I think he needs to schedule "toss up" games for OOC games (MVC type) and if he can't coach and recruit to win those, then we have the wrong guy. Some teams get a lot better by playing better teams.
 

nevadanatural

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I say schedule tough, you can’t prepare yourself for post season play with cupcakes. You’re better off losing to Auburn and Louisville than you are to Missouri State and UALR and if you win a few it could make a difference at the end of the year.
 
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TU1NNJ

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I say schedule tough, you can’t prepare yourself for post season play with cupcakes. You’re better off losing to Auburn and Louisville than you are to Missouri State and UALR and if you win a few it could make a difference at the end of the year.
We should schedule all SEC teams for non-conference games. The selection committee has shown that a losing record in SEC conference games will not adversely impact you participating in the NCAA tournament.
 

lawpoke87

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Zero reason why we should have the easiest schedule in the AAC so Konkol can get to double digit wins. Schedule needs to be more difficult. We need to tell recruits…you come to Tulsa and you will play tough OOC games. If Konkol can’t put a team on the court to compete with teams Net#75-150 then he needs to go. Our fans deserve to watch good games against good teams. There was zero reason to play a number of the home games we had on our schedule this past season other than to pad Konkol’s win total.
 

goldenhurricane2

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Konkol has shown both here and at la tech that he won’t schedule meaningful non conference games. Not that we’re in any at large type of position anyway, but that type of schedule allows only one way to get to the ncaa tournament… same as all the other low major conferences. So essentially the non conference is meaningless, the conference slate is not all that meaningful either. All that matters is getting hot in the conference tournament.
 

chito_and_leon

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Zero reason why we should have the easiest schedule in the AAC so Konkol can get to double digit wins. Schedule needs to be more difficult. We need to tell recruits…you come to Tulsa and you will play tough OOC games. If Konkol can’t put a team on the court to compete with teams Net#75-150 then he needs to go. Our fans deserve to watch good games against good teams. There was zero reason to play a number of the home games we had on our schedule this past season other than to pad Konkol’s win total.
I would like this post 1000 times if I could. I might make up a new handle to like it again.
 

Weatherdemon

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The cupcake schedules have to stop.
I don’t mind a couple 300 teams but everyone else should be top 100 minimum.
 
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I.I.

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I agree but getting any top 50 and most top 100 teams to play us at home are pretty much zero. Neutral site tournaments would be a good place to meet some of these highly rated teams.
Bill, How did Nolan (or Emery Turner (or was it Jim King) get us to play Louisville at home , Purdue , and JD Barnett even got Arizona here? Used to get OU here too.
 

Bill Lowery_1

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Bill, How did Nolan (or Emery Turner (or was it Jim King) get us to play Louisville at home , Purdue , and JD Barnett even got Arizona here? Used to get OU here too.
I’m not sure I can answer that. Recall that Louisville was on a road trip that also played at OSU 2 days later. But maybe the teams, Louisville, Purdue, Georgia (Mabee Center) knew Nolan was bringing in players off the NJCCA championship team and we were going to be pretty good. Nowadays it’s a lot harder to get a really good team to come play a terrible team on the road. Doesn’t do them a bit of good trying to get into the tourney.

During Nolan’s years at TU, only 32 teams made the tourney and we didn’t have NET to value the relative strength of a team, such as quadrant wins and losses and whether the wins were at home or on the road. The RPI was 1st used in 1981. It only used winning and losing percentages of teams played.

Also, I believe many games were scheduled based on relationships with schools/coaches rather than using analytics to determine what a win or loss would do to their NET (quadrant wins/losses).

As a side note, Louisville, coming off the national title in 1980, lost 6 or their 1st 7 games in the 1980-81 season, including losses to us, DePaul (rated#2), UNC (rated #6), Okie State, Utah and Minnesota. Their only win in the 1st 7 games was at #4 Maryland.
 
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astonmartin708_rivals

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Bill, How did Nolan (or Emery Turner (or was it Jim King) get us to play Louisville at home , Purdue , and JD Barnett even got Arizona here? Used to get OU here too.
Louisville was a Missouri Valley foe until 1975. We may have retained some scheduling relationship with then into the 80's
 
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nevadanatural

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I agree but getting any top 50 and most top 100 teams to play us at home are pretty much zero. Neutral site tournaments would be a good place to meet some of these highly rated teams.
I don’t understand why Konkol refuses to schedule a holiday tournament. That’s one time I can financially justify watching TU play. They’re usually in places my wife enjoys so I can use the travel as a family vacation and see three TU games in 4 days. I even emailed him about that last fall and he considered that mess with Detroit and Georgia State his holiday tournament. There was a decent team in that but since it was a 4 team swap type situation we never had a chance to play them win or lose.
 

Bill Lowery_1

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Should have beat Georgia and Dominique Wilkes at the Mabee Center. I was there. We had some great talent in Tulsa and visiting Tulsa that year.
 

Tulsafanzz

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I guessed 10-15, because that’s what Konkol has delivered so far. But actually, it’s going to depend on how well Konkol recruits and also how he schedules.

We have to improve drastically just to be an average Tulsa basketball team.
 
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I.I.

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124 -- The number of blocked shots by the three top shot blockers for Memphis.

48- The number of blocked shots by the top three shot blockers for Tulsa (Odom was the leader)

Does anyone see what we need?
 

mcane

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TU was a patsy before Nolan
Big programs like Purdue and Lvlle scheduled TU for easy RPI road wins
Note that they didn’t return after losing
 
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I.I.

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TU was a patsy before Nolan
Big programs like Purdue and Lvlle scheduled TU for easy RPI road wins
Note that they didn’t return after losing
They sent North Carolina in to Tulsa to play in the Oil Capitol Classic and left with Dean Smith, Michael Jordan, Buzz Peterson, Sam Perkins, Matt Doherty, Brad Daugherty, and Steve Hale wondering what hit them. P.S. It was Ricky Ross, Steve Harris and Bruce Vanley.