Top 16 Seeds Revealed on Sat

akaukswoosh

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Already looks like Duke getting a favorable path.
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bbnkat02

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When is a last time one conference got 3 Number 1 seeds? I'd say potentially all 4 but Duke isn't falling.

Looks like it was 2019 with ACC. But before that it was the Big East in 2009.

So, if this holds, it will only be the THIRD time in CBB history it looks like. No conferences has ever gotten all four. Thanks Duke for screwing that up.
 

flacat22

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@HenryMuto

Also intrigued.

I know you’ve explained it over the years and there are legit reasons/connections to each team….but curious of the hierarchy. And also curious if it changes based on sport (UK over OSU if they meet in basketball but flipped if they meet in football etc)

No hate or questioning fandom at all…just an interesting dynamic
Seems as though @HenryMuto is dodging these questions..
 
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HenryMuto

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Seems as though @HenryMuto is dodging these questions..
I actually didn't even see this question.

Basketball is simple Kentucky is my 100% clear #1 (there was only 1 time my entire life I didn't know what to root for and I will admit it. It was in 2011 when Ohio State was #1 overall seed and I was crushed when the bracket came out and Kentucky was a 4 seed in the same region) I thought Ohio State would never be this good ever again (and they have not) and I thought Kentucky would have many chances in the future to win titles and new that 2012 class was going to be great.
Once Kentucky won that game and went to the final 4 I thought we would win it all so I was very happy unless we lost to UCONN.
That probably was the worst feeling of all time for me watching that game basically not rooting for either team.

Basketball Kentucky my #1, Ohio State #2, Xavier #3 and Cleveland State is my home town team)

Ohio State is the only college football team I root for.
 

HenryMuto

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Gary showed how poor his top 25 and 1 rankings really are because his rankings are based purely off resume.

His top 16 projections were so far off

Gary Parrish had

#1 - Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Duke
#2 - Tennessee, Houston, Texas A&M, Purdue
#3 - Iowa State, Wisconsin, St John's, Michigan
#4 - Ole Miss, Texas Tech, Kentucky, Marquette

He had Ole Miss over Kentucky they didn't even make it
He didn't have Arizona in and they were a 3 seed
He didn't have Kansas in and they were in
 
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HenryMuto

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10 makes sense.

Our computer metrics peg us in the 4-5 range but our great resume bumps us up to a 3.

Not at all that surprising.
10 is where that mock committee had us on Thursday night (like 6 people getting together and prediction this)
They did a heck of a job they got 15 out of the 16 missing St John's (They had Marquette in)


 

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Almost 83.9% of the teams that appeared in the bracket reveal show have gone on to be in the top 16 at the end, according to the NCAA. Of course, there was no final bracket in 2020.
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Runt#1969

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So basically they're saying :

west

1 - Florida
2 - Houston
3 - Kentucky
4 - Michigan ( I would say Michigan STATE here)

sounds about right for this year. we could see that. definitely could hold up or something close to it.

But my observation is that St. John's will move up, and Michigan State will be in there in the mix for a top 16 too. I'd take them over Michigan right now.
 
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UKWildcats1987

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What are the chances on Selection Sunday that we’ll have Duke and St John’s in our region?

Well unless you want to be n with alabama, or auburn it will probably be Duke. I doubt Florida stays a 1 so there will be another option by selection Sunday IMO.
 

HenryMuto

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After we lost to Arkansas I seen many of the bracket guys put Kentucky at the 4/5 range. Most of them had Kentucky around 16 overall.
One of the shows I watched the next day make a bracket Kentucky was at 16 overall and one of the guys on the show was like "I would not have Kentucky as a top 4 seed that Arkansas loss torpedo their resume" he was ref mainly the drop in NET from 10 to 19.

It is truly amazing that 1 win could put boost us from a 4/5 seed to a solid 3 seed. I don't really agree with what they all were saying we had so many big wins that I still felt we should been a high 4 seed like 13 overall after the Arky loss.

Now that Tenn win was at home so it wasn't as massive as the first one so it helped get us to a 3 seed but I think we would still been a 4 seed with the loss which I think not many others thought (since they already had us at 15-17 overall range and then you would added another loss)
 

Cats192

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I'd love to get out of the West. But the location is probably the last thing to consider, and a bonus. As Clark Kellogg said multiple times--how you're playing and who you're playing matter the most.

Goals in orders:

1. Get healthy

2. Finish as a 2 or 3 seed. I don't think the difference matters. There's probably 10-12 teams that will be fighting for those spots. If you're a 2--then you play a team that would have been a 2 if you didn't get it. If you're a 3--then you're playing one of those teams that beat you out. Your pool of opponents won't change either way.

3. Get the MidWest or South. Indy and Atlanta will be a lot better for UK fans travel wise.

This is a rare time where I'm not hoping for a specific one seed. They're all really good. I think Duke may be the "weakest" of the 4 in that they're not getting tested a lot in the ACC. But I think they'll be fired up for a Kentucky re-match and Flagg will be the best player on the court.
 

Cats192

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10 is fair for UK right now.

Already looks like Duke getting a favorable path.
They always get a favorable draw, but if I'm Duke and actually have to play St. John's in New Jersey, I'm pissed. Basically a home game for the 4 seed. And St. John's is good enough to win on a neutral floor.
 
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Runt#1969

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I keep seeing :

East

1 - Duke
2 - St John's
3 - Kentucky
4 - Michigan State (or another Big Ten team here : Purdue, Wisconsin, Michigan)
5 - Marquette
6 - UCLA
7 - Memphis
8 - Gonzaga (or St Mary's)
9 - Drake
10 - West Virginia

or put Tennessee in there as a #2 and drop the Johnnies to a 3, and send Kentucky out west like the above.
I'd settle for whatever. But it doesn't matter.
just win
 
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Whenever I watch anything involving this or read about the methodologies they use to seed teams there's always things I find a bit odd.

You have a group full of people sitting around looking at the team sheets and trying to rank the teams based on that stuff. They are all sitting there trying to weigh things properly. Oh this team has 3 Quad 1 A wins and this team has 4 but oh those 3 wins were all on the road and the team with 4 those were all at home.

It just strikes me as a bit odd we still in 2025 do things like this when the purpose of NET was to weigh everything properly to begin with. In other words we don't need a committee.

The other thing I find weird is when people follow the numbers on the team sheets..........until it doesn't conform to their already existing belief. They were talking about St Johns win at Uconn on the video and guys were like "well is that really that good of a win". It's like oh we know the team sheet says team is X rated but we don't really believe it and so we aren't going to factor that in as high. Which I just find .......weird to do. You either put stock into the numbers or you don't. You shouldn't cherry pick based on what you actually feel.

I dunno just random thoughts on this. In the end, they pretty much get there tho.
 
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HenryMuto

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@HenryMuto

Also intrigued.

I know you’ve explained it over the years and there are legit reasons/connections to each team….but curious of the hierarchy. And also curious if it changes based on sport (UK over OSU if they meet in basketball but flipped if they meet in football etc)

No hate or questioning fandom at all…just an interesting dynamic
I posted this elsewhere but here you go

Basketball is simple Kentucky is my 100% clear #1 (there was only 1 time my entire life I didn't know what to root for and I will admit it. It was in 2011 when Ohio State was #1 overall seed and I was crushed when the bracket came out and Kentucky was a 4 seed in the same region) I thought Ohio State would never be this good ever again (and they have not) and I thought Kentucky would have many chances in the future to win titles and new that 2012 class was going to be great.
Once Kentucky won that game and went to the final 4 I thought we would win it all so I was very happy unless we lost to UCONN.
That probably was the worst feeling of all time for me watching that game basically not rooting for either team.

Basketball Kentucky my #1, Ohio State #2, Xavier #3 and Cleveland State is my home town team)

Ohio State is the only college football team I root for.
 
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