It is interesting to think about the type of QB that is optimally suited for a Franklin/AK offense. I think one who is more mobile than Allar but not all the way to a Pribula or McSorely where their strength is running and passing is not as strong. Need someone in between classic dropback and very mobile/weaker arm strength. I think Josh Allen but he is almost a unicorn. A better version of Clifford perhap, better passer, stronger arm.
Tough conversation: is Allar good enough?
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I think that in any offense, the qb needs to be able to have the ablity to move and make some plays with his legs, even if he's a classic drop back passer, especially with the one back offense that almost every team runs now.
My point is that a Franklin offense needs more than that. Allar isn't a good enough runner for what Franklin really wants. If Beau is a 8-9 runner. Allar is a 4-5. Franklin wants or needs a minimum of 7.
Some Taco Bell, some curry, and some cheap crappy beer, like Rolling Rock, and he’ll threaten everyone with the runs.
Not as long as he continues to never pull the ball out on rpo runs.
I read that, after the game with Nevada, where Allar had a few bullish runs into piles, that the coaching staff wanted him to ease up on running vs FIU. A few times he had wide open lanes on RPO’s if he kept the ball. I’m beginning to think the coaches are doing a rope-a-dope with their play calling as well as what they want to see from Drew, the RBs, WRs, and OL. Tons of subs and combos happened in the first two games and I expect the same vs Villanova. Then a bye week to hone the game plan for Oregon.
Last possession vs OSU last year. PSU needs a TD to tie but can's score on 1st and goal from the 3 yd line. 4th down pass incomplete to Dinkins.
Last possession vs Oregon last year. PSU needs a TD and 2 pt conversion to tie. PSU has plenty of time and has the ball near mid field. Allar is intercepted by Nico Reed and Oregon runs out the clock.
Last possession vs ND last year. Game is tied and PSU can win with a FG or just run out the clock and send the game to OT. Allar's last pass was intercepted by Christian Gray giving ND great field position and a chance to win with a FG.
Allar is a very good QB. He has Josh Allen type size and arm strength which will get him to the NFL but I'm not sure that he has the moxie necessary to put a team on his back in big games like Allen, McSorley or even Pribula. I hope we see that this year but that's something we should have seen more of by now.
Big game James will have earned his moniker if we lose to Oregon at home in front of a Whiteout crowd this year.
Tengwall's review of our OL (and Singleton) vs FIU wasn't very flattering. I hope that's because we are rotating so many players trying to find the right combination.
On a positive note, Allar was seen walking well around Lasch yesterday. Franklin praised his footwork, saying that Allar made great strides.
The pick against Oregon was the type of ball that makes you think Trace was good. Give Drew his WRs.
When did Beau beat a good team?
Beau hasn't played a good team. I don't know how good he'll turn out to be but he's off to a good start.
It's just my opinion but Beau seems to play aggressively and with confidence which is reminiscent of McSorley. Of course that could change once he gets kicked in the mouth a few times. We'll see.
Allar seems to play more conservatively and with less confidence. There's no doubt that he's bigger and stronger. That alone will make him a better NFL prospect.
Hopefully we can do that. Btw, last time we played Villanova, they pushed us around.
Then why did you say "even Pribula" if you admit he hasn't played a good team. He hasn't proven anything.
Right--people like the underdog story like Trace. Trace wasn't capable, even with Barkley and elite receivers, of winning a title. Beau isn't. Allar is.
The Allar criticism, IMO, is solely based on the stars which is why if you compare him to other top prospects (Nussmeier, Klubnik, Sellers, Mateer) he's comparable if not better.
Trace wasn't very good--people just liked him. You put Allar on that team we win a title.
Beau's passing was not that great at PSU.
Problem is the psu offense. Notice how QBs and WRs look better when they leave? The OL and RBs dont look that great here either.
Additionally, it does not appear that AK is attempting to experiment with different formations and different plays as it all has been very vanilla. It is all very concerning. I can accept one bad game versus Nevada as being an aberration, but the OL, Allar and Singleton underperforming versus two low level teams is very alarming to say the least.
The blame game is very popular here. Should PSU lose a game or games.....it will be the fault of 1. Franklin 2. Hagans 3. Even money AK or JK and 4.
Allar. If the offense fails, Franklin will be indicted for "meddling" and similarly if the defense falters. Garnish the blame with the deification of Pribula and Wallace.....Evans could sneak in as well.
Allar. If the offense fails, Franklin will be indicted for "meddling" and similarly if the defense falters. Garnish the blame with the deification of Pribula and Wallace.....Evans could sneak in as well.
You do make valid point with your posts.
But too often you add other nonsense and drivel that detracts and neutralizes any positives.
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And you can disagree with my assessment of Trace. Trace far exceeded expectations and was someone that was easy to root for. After the disaster that was Hack's career and us coming off the unjust sanctions people remember Trace fondly and exaggerate how good he was IMO. He was a solid QB surrounded by a ton of offensive weapons; especially WRs that excelled making contested catches
Booed him when he was introduced as the starter. One posted here that Allar should have been named the starter before he walked on campus.
Clifford was accused of "being in the way" of Allar's develpment etc. Fickle much?
Allar took too many unneccessary hits vs. Nevada. He was cautioned to avoid running vs FIU....it was pretty obvious. I'll guess it will be similar Saturday.
Imagine telling your QB not to get injured in the first 3 non conference games? Fire everyone!
Please tell us all the QB’s and WR’s that look better when they leave. I came up with 25 QB’s and WR’s who left via the portal and of those 25, 11 of them went to another P4 school. Of those 11, only 4 of them have been somewhat successful (and that’s counting Wallace and Pribula, who it’s too soon to tell), so really only 2 have shown much. If you’re going to use guys like Will Levis in your arguments, don’t forget guys like Christian Villeux, Tommy Stevens, Ta’Quan Roberson, and Micah Bowens who went on and did nothing.
Mobility is such a big part of football now, in the NFL and college. Having a QB who can really hurt a defense running the ball, like Jalen Hurts or the typical Ohio State QB of the last 6-7 years, is a major part of the position. If a QB can't do that, they have to be a phenomenally good passer to make up the difference. But Drew is not a phenomenally good passer. He can make exceptional throws on occasion, but his throwing game is brought down by his lack of consistency/mechanical problems. His throwing game is also affected by his lack of mobility, because has to bail earlier than a quarterback with more quickness, and he has a harder time moving behind the LOS to buy time and get a throwing lane.
I think for a long time the analysts of the football world were just assuming that Allar's mechanics would get sorted out, that as he learned the game and got comfortable running an offense, that he'd throw the ball more consistently. But that hasn't happened yet, and he's now in his third year as a starter, so while we still hope, it's not likely to happen at this point. Probably what you get with Drew is what you get. If the team's going to be elite, it's going to take a superb defense or a superb offensive line or both.
Hi OP, the answer is no. He is definitely not.
Levis and beau.
If you want to list taquan roberson, Micah bowens and 20 guys who never saw the field then let's talk about qb evaluation, coaching and development.
Who will be this seasons scapegoat?
Are you tired of watching the rb run into the back of the ol?
Here's the reality. Drew could play a near perfect game against Oregon but any mistake he makes will be the focus of those that dislike him
No QB has ever played a perfect game. Every QB needs help to win. That included Brady and Manning.
If the play calling doesn't get drastically better we could have Josh Allen at QB and it wouldn't matter.
No QB has ever played a perfect game. Every QB needs help to win. That included Brady and Manning.
If the play calling doesn't get drastically better we could have Josh Allen at QB and it wouldn't matter.
I have serious doubts that we can win a championship with Allar. At the beginning of the season I knew the season hinged on Allar improving his accuracy and overall performance particularly in our biggest games. What has happened? He is inconsistent and not able to ignite the offense against JV teams. He has regressed. If he can't demonstrate superior passing skills, leadership, poise etc against the likes of FIU and Villanova then it will be worse versus Oregon.
He ain't playing a near perfect game vs Oregon. At this point, I hope he is given a chance to excel but Franklin may already have lost confidence in him and we will come in with a conservative run first short passing game type of plan and pray Allar makes no mistakes. In essence play not to lose and we will therefore lose.