Transfer....Vasser

[NJCat]

I certainly can't speak for Vassar, but why on earth would he transfer?.

Because he likes to play basketball?

Something happened at NU such that he is no longer on the team. It would not be at all hard to imagine he would like to continue to play competitive basketball, even if he (like >99% of other college ballers) doesn't have a future in the NBA!

Whatever happens, I hope he gets a decent college degree, hopefully from NU.

 

[willycat]

I certainly can't speak for Vassar, but why on earth would he transfer? He certainly doesn't seem to have a future in professional basketball. He's got a chance at a free NU education. If what YesterdayCat said is accurate that Collins does not want him on the team, he wouldn't likely be interested in doing the team any favors. If he truly loves basketball, he would have already transferred to Directional-Hyphenate-State U.
He was guaranteed four years, which is the right thing to do. He's going to take advantage of it. Sucks for us to be down to 12 scholarship players, but good for him to make the most out of his educational opportunity.

Maybe he could get a pretty good degree and play BB at let's say an Ivy or Rice or Wheaton College. The kid's history indicates that he likes to move around, so maybe he's bored with NU. let's hope something works out that's best for everyone.

 

[catstime16]

He must be looking for Ivy type school/opportunity that would fit his basketball/academic
skill set? Why leave for anything less????????

 

[thewildcat2011]

According to my source very close to the situation, Vasser was going to transfer, but then decided not to just to stick it to posters on this board.

 

[bringbacktherantboard]

Maybe he could get a pretty good degree and play BB at let's say an Ivy or Rice or Wheaton College.

Only one of those choices offers athletic scholarships, I believe? I don't see what's in it for him to give up an athletic scholarship.

 

[willycat]

Only one of those choices offers athletic scholarships, I believe? I don't see what's in it for him to give up an athletic scholarship.

Probably true but it has been noted that the Ivy league programs offer multiple types of aid. Wonder what his former teammates think of him using up a schlorship and not working for it. Pretty sure I can guess what his former coaches think. Maybe Phillips and/or Shapiro can intervene.

 

[IdahoAlum]

Probably true but it has been noted that the Ivy league programs offer multiple types of aid. Wonder what his former teammates think of him using up a schlorship and not working for it. Pretty sure I can guess what his former coaches think. Maybe Phillips and/or Shapiro can intervene.

Well, his former coaches could solve the problem by simply adding him back to the roster. It appears to be their decision not to have Vasser play.

 

[willycat]

Well, his former coaches could solve the problem by simply adding him back to the roster. It appears to be their decision not to have Vasser play.

Sure but do you think they or any coach would want a guy on the bench who has stated that he is dissatisfied with NU and wishes to transfer. Problem seems to be that he cannot find an available school.

 

[NJCat]

Problem seems to be that he cannot find an available school.

And how pray do you know this?

 

[backdoorpass]

Sure but do you think they or any coach would want a guy on the bench who has stated that he is dissatisfied with NU and wishes to transfer. Problem seems to be that he cannot find an available school.

I'm with willycat on this one. So Vasser didn't work out. That's only one Collins recruit so far that simply hasn't worked out. Most teams and coaches always have at least one or two guys at the end of the bench that simply don't develop, buy in, commit, whatever. And those guys can poison the locker room. Playing with 12 hard-working, dedicated scholarship players with good chemistry instead of 13 scholarship players isn't the end of the world.

 

[NJCat]

Playing with 12 hard-working, dedicated scholarship players with good chemistry instead of 13 scholarship players isn't the end of the world.

Actually, it is the end of the world for willy. He's been bitching about it all season long. So you aren't actually agreeing with willycat.

 

[willycat]

Actually, it is the end of the world for willy. He's been bitching about it all season long. So you aren't actually agreeing with willycat.

I'm certainly not at the end of anything regarding this subject but seems like whining because many others agree with my viewpoint. Time to start following some other poster that agrees with your ridicules thoughts.

 

[NUCat320]

The kid's history indicates that he likes to move around, so maybe he's bored with NU. let's hope something works out that's best for everyone.

Perhaps circumstances dictated that he had to move around, and he likes the idea of being in the same place.

Also, one of the stories after his commitment stated that he had a grandmother in the South Suburbs. Not so bad to be closer to her.

Seriously, good for him.

 

[YesterdaysCat]

Not quite what I was asking. Since he is no longer with the team can it be changed to a different kind of scholarship? They do it with kids with medical issues. Maybe they get it classified as mental. Kid still gets a scholarship and the education, just a different kind and it doesn't count against the 13. I mean you don't exactly want him at the training table or tying up tutoring resources. Isn't that sort of what happened with Turner?

Why would it be classified as "mental"? Does Vassar have a psychological disorder? Maybe we do for giving a kid a 4-year guarantee and hoping we don't have to honor it.

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

Why m earth doesn't this kid want to play somewhere else?

 

[willycat]

Perhaps circumstances dictated that he had to move around, and he likes the idea of being in the same place.

Also, one of the stories after his commitment stated that he had a grandmother in the South Suburbs. Not so bad to be closer to her.

Seriously, good for him.

True but not so good for NU BB.

 

[Pete Purple]

I clearly indicated I was writing about skepticism before recruits suit up. There is no question that after some of these players demonstrate they are not Big Ten-caliber, some begin being critical. Again, I think the kids are far less sensitive than the homers about giving honest assessments.

I think Chris Collins is doing an excellent job. The bottom line, though, is that he will need to start getting players that the better teams in major conferences want if NU is going to make the jump to an NCAA Tournament team. There is still a long way to go in that department. More like Vic Law.

Wow, is it just me or does this guy write just like a guy we had around here (a doctor, but not doc rugby) who promised to leave for good. It's the same authoritative, condescending, repetitive tone: "there is no question that..." or "such and such is undeniable..." or "so and so would have absolutely no chance whatsoever. None."

If you are not this guy then I apologize, but the resemblance is astonishing. If you are, wow. That would be pathetic.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

I'm with willycat on this one. So Vasser didn't work out. That's only one Collins recruit so far that simply hasn't worked out. Most teams and coaches always have at least one or two guys at the end of the bench that simply don't develop, buy in, commit, whatever. And those guys can poison the locker room. Playing with 12 hard-working, dedicated scholarship players with good chemistry instead of 13 scholarship players isn't the end of the world.

THIS!

 

[YesterdaysCat]

THIS!

I think you have a good point. I also think that a team like ours needs every scholarship desperately as we try to make the tourney and then become a consistent participant.

But yeah, the intense scrutiny of this one scholarship doesn't make sense. We have other guys on scholarship who are on the team who need to play better, and our glare should be on those men. The underachievers are receiving great coaching, strength and performance coaching, and special tutoring, to say nothing of the stipend and training table, etc.

 

[Gladeskat]

Having been a victim of a witch hunt like that, just stop. I had a moderator challenge my credentials and I must have passed. If we have to challenge every new poster, shame on you. That's a good way to drive away people who love NU ball enough to discuss it publicly.

You've cleaned up your act nicely. Glad to have you posting again.

 

[Pete Purple]

Upon reflection, my post does feel out of line. I apologize. Go 'Cats.

 

[mikewebb68]

According to my source very close to the situation, Vasser was going to transfer, but then decided not to just to stick it to posters on this board.

I nominate this for 2016 Post of the Year. Do I have a second?

 

[NJCat]

Do I have a second?

Take all the time you need......

 

[cometclear]

Wow, is it just me or does this guy write just like a guy we had around here (a doctor, but not doc rugby) who promised to leave for good. It's the same authoritative, condescending, repetitive tone: "there is no question that..." or "such and such is undeniable..." or "so and so would have absolutely no chance whatsoever. None."

If you are not this guy then I apologize, but the resemblance is astonishing. If you are, wow. That would be pathetic.

A doctor? No, sorry, only a DOCTOR OF LOVE!

In the interests of full disclosure, I am really Bill Carmody. I have beefs with a number of you, not only for turning on me quicker than lightning, but particularly for assigning me blame for losing Ed "We Coulda Been a Contenda" McCants.

 

[hdhntr1]

I think you have a good point. I also think that a team like ours needs every scholarship desperately as we try to make the tourney and then become a consistent participant.

But yeah, the intense scrutiny of this one scholarship doesn't make sense. We have other guys on scholarship who are on the team who need to play better, and our glare should be on those men. The underachievers are receiving great coaching, strength and performance coaching, and special tutoring, to say nothing of the stipend and training table, etc.

Yes but the others are at least still on the team so we are getting something out of the scholarships even if it is mostly practice bodies.

 

[hdhntr1]

Why would it be classified as "mental"? Does Vassar have a psychological disorder? Maybe we do for giving a kid a 4-year guarantee and hoping we don't have to honor it.

Why not? It appears he is unable to perform for some reason. If it was physical, his scholarship would be converted to a medical hardship. It appears to not be that so what does that leave? Lost the love of BB? Can;t get along with coaches or teammates? Could those be considered psychological? If so, couldn't that be used as grounds for a medical waiver? Just looking for a way to get that scholarship back by converting it to another kind of scholarship since the guy has so far chosen not find another home.

 

[IdahoAlum]

I'm consistently amazed at all the speculation about this Vasser situation, and the total lack of solid information. Lou, any chance of giving a call to the NU sports information office to ask some basic questions about this situation? Like: why is Vasser still here, why is he not playing, and will his scholarship be available in the near future? Thanks.

 

[DaCat]

Why not ask Vasser directly?

 

[NJCat]

Why not ask Vasser directly?

Or even Vassar.....

 

[EvanstonCat]

You've cleaned up your act nicely. Glad to have you posting again.

Glades you are wrong. No way this is the ex-poster you say. YesterdayCat is far more polite, reasonable and measured. I've enjoyed his/her posts even when we disagree.

 

[EvanstonCat]

A doctor? No, sorry, only a DOCTOR OF LOVE!

In the interests of full disclosure, I am really Bill Carmody. I have beefs with a number of you, not only for turning on me quicker than lightning, but particularly for assigning me blame for losing Ed "We Coulda Been a Contenda" McCants.

Was your worst move ever. Ed brought his team to the Sweet Sixteen. Coulda been us. Then again you brought a sorry *** Holy Cross team to the Dance so anything is possible.

 

[Pete Purple]

Well played

 

[Alan Smithee_rivals156293]

I'm consistently amazed at all the speculation about this Vasser situation, and the total lack of solid information. Lou, any chance of giving a call to the NU sports information office to ask some basic questions about this situation? Like: why is Vasser still here, why is he not playing, and will his scholarship be available in the near future? Thanks.

The total lack of actual information makes this the perfect topic of high quantity, high volume discussion with rigid positions on this board.

 

[NJCat]

The total lack of actual information makes this the perfect topic of high quantity, high volume discussion with rigid positions on this board.

Absolutely!! Never let a lack of data affect a great theory!!!

 

[xxxbobxxx]

Sure but do you think they or any coach would want a guy on the bench who has stated that he is dissatisfied with NU and wishes to transfer. Problem seems to be that he cannot find an available school.

But simply force the issue. I doubt he would really want to play based on the apparent history. But if told to show, his options are to show or leave the team and scholarship behind. As others have said, a practice body is better than nothing. And in a pinch, he could play a few minutes in garbage time.