Transfers - In and Out
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Im not bashing or putting the blame on the coaches our players.I'm done on this subject we can all agree to disagree. Jeter wasn't the first won't be the last to transfer.
This isn't worth the bickering and difference of options especially with the great posters we got on this board.
This isn't worth the bickering and difference of options especially with the great posters we got on this board.
Sean was a huge scorer coming out of Chicago. The Dockery family thought he would be the sg because Ewing and Duhon were already here.
I don't remember that, but to have Thompson, Williams and Randolph at the same time... Somebody had to go.
JJ committed to Duke as a sophomore. You're wrong.
So was JJ...saw him numerous times in HS and knew he would be special
I don't see how Sean was a great scorer in HS after watching him at duke...guess he shot a bunch or something cause I didn't see it in college
True cause he had committed when I saw him first and that was his junior year...and cried have him hell them because he was going to duke
System. Dockery was a slasher. He needed the ball in his hands. JJ was a pure shooter.
Does anyone remember when Laettner committed. Did he commit before Brian Davis or after. For the life of me I don't recall. Same thing with Grant Hill and Tony Lang. It's tough getting old when you can't remember stuff like that.
OFC
OFCDoes anyone remember when Laettner committed. Did he commit before Brian Davis or after. For the life of me I don't recall. Same thing with Grant Hill and Tony Lang. It's tough getting old when you can't remember stuff like that.
It's been a while but I think Grant Luke JJ committed early...maybe not as early as JJ but not sure
Now you really got me thinking. Trying to remember the sequence of Dawkins, Jackman, Henderson, Alarie and Bilas. And what about Banks and Dennard. I'm losing it guys. Gonna have to take some meds to get to sleep. If Heyman 25 would read this he would know. OFC
[QUOTE="sheyduke, post: 11177756, member: 1688"This isn't worth the bickering and difference of options especially with the great posters we got on this board.[/QUOTE]
Shey you make wonderful points, but I know what you are saying.. OFC
Shey you make wonderful points, but I know what you are saying.. OFC
We're all Duke fans in the end and we're all gonna have different opinions. Could you imagine if everyone didn't have a difference.
Don't mean I don't believe in what I said but a difference in opinion isn't worth arguing about.
Like I said, Jeter weren't the first he won't be the last.
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Some just take offense when you disagree with their view. Or in their eyes you are second guessing the great Coach K. I see some insulting comments thrown at some people when an opinion to them seems far fetched. What's bad is we're all Duke fans, or so I thought. I respect everyone's opinion, even if I disagree, some don't return the favor
Disagreements are part of the fun. Some can handle them, some can't and some get desperate.
I still think the thing about most of the transfers is that they didn't give it a year or two. I know that's asking them to wait the turn, and there is a chance another recruit comes in over them, but Ks track record of playing guys who have stuck it out for a few years is pretty good...Zoubek, Lance Thomas, Tyler Thornton...All guys who could've transferred early on but played a bunch by Jr and Sr year. None of them incredible players. Hell Zoubek kept both Plumlees, who were high recruits on the bench some. I get kids wanting immediate PT, but most of these guys don't get that even when they transfer, they break into their rotations when they are a little older.
True and I get this but some do get carried away.
My point, I probably should have stated it better is,
K and staff recruited the kids and when they commit at some point all were on the same page on what was expected somewhere it got lost between both parties involved.
I see the recourse when people say," so it's k's fault that player A never developed!" But there is some truth to that because isn't that part of a recruiting pitch, especially for all you coaches on here? How a coach plans to teach and develope the player and utilize his skill in his program?
Then there is the most famous line," time is earned in practice." Well I can see that from some views but Duke must have had five people who weren't just doing anything in practice, because they didn't play in games.
That's how I see it going both ways same on the staff as on the players.
I hate to say it but all that crap talked about luke maye is gonna bite us ...he's going to be pretty good imo better then Jeter will ever lol
Biggest problem for the guys trying to develop in practice and get more PT IMO Shey is when we bring in OAD's. Dont get me wrong! I am all for us putting best team out there, but I can see where those guys get discouraged and fairly frequently, leave...
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Didn't work with Seventh Woods. Many times it's about the player, not the coaching.
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Well I'll take that as saying Duke had five " seventh woods"
It's going to be interesting going forward with who Duke had stay and who we bring in and which of our projected four year kids stay all four to five some upper class men perspective
Few situations are one in the same. That's my point. Yes, K must take some of the blame. So must the player.
K has historically played a shorter rotation. It frustrates many of us. We can break it down all we want....it's not changing anything. This season was the first in some time where I thought the rotation would be more than seven guys. Was it because K was stubborn? Was it because he felt certain guys shouldn't play? Was it because some players put themselves in front of the program? None of us know those answers. We can pretend we do, but that's all we're doing.
I just want k to play a deep rotation early on and tighten it up in crunch time to keep guys fresh and it helps develope guys...he wants to win though every game! Lol .he kinda did that some I guess just not long enough imo..we'll a lot of that was because of injuries though so he'll Idk! I'm predicting jack white to get 15 ppg 7reb next year !! Better believe!!!!
We agree, that's why I put it on both.
Luke is the prime example. He knew who Duke had coming in and he did not care. He made it a point to make sure he was gonna get his minutes and to me that's an attitude they all could learn from. I remember at the beginning of the season and a reporter spoke with his dad. Best line was," Luke and I had talked about the incoming class and Luke had worked out all summer and he said he was gonna work his tail off even if he started or got his minutes coming off the bench he was confident he was gonna play!"
Turned out very well for Luke.
Ks frustrating at times..with his stubbornness!!! He's getting old and that stuff gets worse! lol I still love him though Goat
And Chase averaged between 14 and 15 minutes per game early in the season. He had a few shining moments, but I saw a kid who played much smaller than he was, was weak with the ball and, at best, was a below-average rebounder. From all reports a great kid, but it didn't work out.
He should be significantly stronger and more mature when he takes the court as fourth-year player in the fall of 2018.
He should be significantly stronger and more mature when he takes the court as fourth-year player in the fall of 2018.
We have spoken about this before, you and I and I didn't agree at first if you recall because he couldn't stay on the floor due to freshman fouls or silly fouls. But I agree it would have helped especially with the heavy minutes played by the guards.
Can't count how many times I saw Jeter standing and watching people rebound around him ...or getting the ball on Offense and making himself 4 foot tall..just not strong enough imo..footwork is horrible..what has he been doing since he's been here! ? Now I can say he does block a few shots occasionally ..I'm sure he's a great kid but just not enough skill to play at Duke imo
I think should Duke land Duval that will be the best case for Frank to gauge his pg skills and learn from
He is a good enough basketball player that he could have learned the position with on the job training. I agree totally. And as a freshman, he'd be the least likely candidate to gripe about a role change.