So you want to ban people's 1st amendment rights? Sounds pretty American!
You actually don't have a right to use interstate travel to cross state lines in order to commits acts of terrorism. Thats a federal crime.
Saying you're coming to burn a city down, and yes they did in fact say that, is without question a terroristic threat. It is perfectly legal to arrest these people as they travel across the state line. 100%
Is it a rumor if the group actually said it? Seriously? Are you really that brainwashed or stupid?
People in Kenosha are spray painting "children inside, please don't burn" on the outside of apt buildings. Some people are OK with this as a reality in2020.
Whatever Scooter. You can believe what you want to believe. A **** I do not give. I’m just trying to educate the terminally stupid. Obviously I failed.
Who claimed this, can you source it? If this was the case, why was the protest by all accounts very peaceful and exactly what the mayor's office and police stated was expected? They even confirmed the information about enormous crowds, occupying interstates and causing violence was rumor. The group planning this particular event even spanned it over four days, and it was led by a peaceful group.
dude. You’re just wrong. Hearsay is not the same as a first person account. A jury or court can conclude a first person account is untruthful. And who knows in this situation. But that does not mean it was hearsay. Just give it up.
Well, since you obviously work for the guy, answer your own question. Oh! You DON'T work for the guy. You just decide to spout some s$^+.
All you BurnLootMurder people. Does Trump have to register you as in kind donations? Because all you are doing is ensuring his victory is going to be even more lopsided. I knew you were stupid by your actions, but you people are terminally DUMB!! Keep up the good work!
WWG1WGA!! Qanon.
Multiple dead in Kenosha tonight. But its just one town and not the whole state. Luckily protesters were keeping the cops occupied while armed groups confronted each other. Thank god for peaceful protest.
Just one of many articles where they make terroristic threats. Their own YouTube channel has more if you'd like to do any research.
You seem to be pretty locked in to your views no matter what evidence is presented. So this along with any other attempt to show truth is likely a complete waste of time. So this will be my last post directed at you. Goodnight.
Holy crap... why are you all not blocking the troll. The dude created his account a few months ago just to troll. It is an obvious troll 101 move. He also doesn’t attempt to hide he is trolling. Ignore him and move on. You are not changing his mind... heck he may not even believe the things he says. He is just having fun trolling you all.
That's the group that was there a month ago.! The No Fing around coalition or whatever. That's not the group we are referring to. The group that has been here all week has been a very peaceful group. The problem is you want to lump all protestors together.
Goodnight!
So can we get a link to that? It doesn't look like that would be correct data. At least not according to the FBI, who is giving different info.
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Just forget it. The dude is a rock with eyebrows. He’s got the I.Q. of a banana slug.
then perhaps they shouldn’t commit armed robbery and manslaughter / murder at rates approaching 4-5 times their population percentage. You really need to think these things through.
Why would you expect the number of each race killed by police to follow the percent make-up of that race in the population?
yeah I’ll take stats from an unbiased group like ”Mapping Police Violence” over official FBI crime stats any day.
Why wouldn't you expect them to be somewhat reflective? If 13% of the population makes up roughly 30% of the casualties by police, that points to a pretty large over representation.
FBI crime stats. I don’t have time to do your work for you. Look it up yourself. Blacks committed 53.3 percent of murders/non negligent manslaughters and 54.2 percent of robberies. Using your own statistic that they comprise 13 percent of the population that shows they commit these crimes at a rate of slightly above 4 times their population percentage.
In your post earlier, you also mentioned that of the 48 cops killed on duty during felonious actions, 15 of the ID'd suspects were black...leading to it being at least 31%...explain that over representation....or maybe population is unreasonable to use and interactions is the desired denominator.
then why does it say they “estimated” their numbers? That seems odd and unnecessary when the numbers are right in front of you. As you like to say, can you source that their data is official FBI data and explain why they would need to “estimate” anything? How do you estimate if a person is killed by police while unarmed? Either they were or they weren’t. Crowdsourced database, lol. I smell numbers manipulation to maintain their funding and agenda.
I wouldn't expect population percentage to have very much to do with it at all. I would expect it to follow how many encounters each race has with police when investigating violent crime, armed robbery, etc. I rarely come into contact with a police officer, so my chance of being killed by one is remote. If I lived in a crime infested neighborhood and fit the general description of people the police are looking for, I would come into contact with police a lot more often. As a result, my chances of being killed by police would significantly increase. Population percentage has nothing to do with it.
Well, I just looked and it appears you are off by quite a bit.
In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.
While blacks were convicted slightly more for murders, why are they over represented so high when it comes to police officers use of force against them? That's not explaining it?
Also, white crimes rates far exceeded black crime rates for aggravated assaults, rapes, burgarly, larceny, arson, vandalism, weapons charges, sex crimes, drug related offenses, and alcohol related crimes. So, you're saying because of a roughly 5% higher conviction rate for murder charges, that explains why black people are far more likely to die at the hand of law enforcement? Even in the unarmed instances? Even though overall white people commit almost 3x the crime?
It's not really an over representation, it's a limited sample size. If 52 more cops had died and none were killed by black men, it would be almost identical to the population make-up. We don't know what the impact would look like on a more accurately measurable scale. However, it clearly shows white people are more likely to kill an officer, yet are less likely to be killed by police.
They are estimating the non gun related deaths by police by race. The FBI doesn't track that data, so they are calculating based off incomplete data they are receiving from different law enforcement. It's estimated because it's not complete from all departments.
In 2018 blacks committed 2, 925 murders while whites committed 3,315. Whites account for approximately 197 million people. Blacks account for approximately 40.2 million people. The murder rate for whites is approximately .000017 per person. The rate for blacks is .000073. The rate for blacks is therefore 4.28 times that of whites. I'm not going to do the same calculations for other violent crime, but those rates will determine who gets killed at a higher rate by police.
But the problem is, white people actually have far more encounters, even pertaining to violent offenses.
Violent crimes include homicide, manslaughters, sexual assault/rape, armed robbery, aggravated assault. In 2016, white people accounted for 241,063 of these, blacks were 153,340. Yet, proportionality, more black people died at the hands of law enforcement? Also, overall for that year, 5,858,330 crimes were committed by whites, compared to 2,263,112 were by blacks. So with more than double the crime, why are white criminals far less likely to die from interacting with police?
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Whites commit far more crime, violent and non violent, as I previously pointed out. Since white people obviously result in much higher instances of police interaction, why are blacks disproportionately killed at much higher rate, whether armed or unarmed?
You answered your own question. The violent crime rate for white people in your example is 241,063/197,000,000 = .00122. The violent crime rate for black people is 153,340/40,200,000=.00355. So the violent crime rate is 2.91 times higher for blacks than whites. Once again, those rates will have more to do with the rates at which each race is killed by police.
Wow you all are wasting your time and energy here. Youre talking to a brick wall, literally. Dont stress yourself out dealing with someone who is only here to stir the pot.
That doesn't explain why black people are killed at much higher rates than white criminals, who you even admit have far more interaction with police, both violent and nonviolent. It carries the same for armed vs unarmed. Again, why is that?
Last night for instance, a white guy shoots 3 people in Kenosha, kills 2 of them. The police run right past him, while he is carrying his assault weapon and people chasing after him. Yet, for some reason, the cops run into the crowd of black people. If that doesn't point out the issue plain as day, I don't know what else it will take.
I don't stress about it. I enjoy watching him make a fool of himself, even if it is on purpose. When the entertainment of it dies, I'll stop responding to his posts.