First of all, wouldn't be surprised at all if Tre leaves. Just throwing this out there. Tre has been a duke fan for a long time. I wonder if that influences his decision at all. There's that famous story of him showing K his room with all the Duke stuff, and him pushing his brother to go to Duke. I would think financially, they're doing all right. Maybe he comes back after all.
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I pray that he stays. But the young man played a great season for us. And he should do what's best for him.
It just seemed like to me he could only orchestrate the offense...which was what kind of offense? Lol. 3point shooting aside. I’m out peace
I’m sure he’s gone but he and cam might get to be teammates in the G league. Not ready at all but whatever
Glad I didn’t see it then.
I hate this day every year.
I won’t sleep well tonihhht and I’m gonna miss Zion so bad next year. I don’t think I have really missed a player since the 2010 team, but man I’m gonna hate not seeing that kid next year
Zion is a tough tough loss. I’ve been a huge fan since I saw him in high school. Met him last year nicest guy on earth.
We will never see a player like Zion ever again I don’t think. He was truly a unique and special individual player! Gonna miss him dearly!
Tre should not leave. He’s a very good defender and even that tailed from the beginning of the year. Still good but not as good IMO. He can be a good defender in the NBA but I doubt elite.
He’s offensively challenged with no jump shot. Today’s NBA requires guys his size to shoot. He doesn’t possess incredible athleticism or quickness. His strength is his work ethic and heart. Unfortunately that doesn’t make up for the aforementioned deficiencies in the NBA. He will not get drafted IMO.
He’s offensively challenged with no jump shot. Today’s NBA requires guys his size to shoot. He doesn’t possess incredible athleticism or quickness. His strength is his work ethic and heart. Unfortunately that doesn’t make up for the aforementioned deficiencies in the NBA. He will not get drafted IMO.
We won't see a player like him again. Very true
NBA scouts are significantly more interested in a player’s characteristics, placing a much lower value on box score information. Looking good on paper never hurts, but if the things that don’t show up on paper (intangibles by definition) don’t look good, the statistics are practically meaningless. They mentally weight intangibles to how a player’s game will translate into the league. Shooting and attacking the basket are prime examples and coincidentally it’s the main questionable topic for Tre’s draft stock.
Low release, slow release. He can shoot 40% behind the arc next year and scouts will highlight his form. Low and slow in the fast and athletic NBA isn’t ideal. No quick first step, no explosive speed. He could develop as a crafty basket attacking player and it will virtually serve him no favors. If he isn’t going to beat anyone with a quick step or breakaway speed, his craft won’t matter. Especially with him being 6’1”. The athleticism and length packed into NBA rosters will have him swatted or road blocked.
They know he takes care of the ball. Along with high IQ and being an elite defender. I think it’s hard to argue that he’ll look better next year with less talent surrounding him. K has committed to the positionless offense and Tre is 110% a traditional style PG. I want him to stay but I think it’s senseless to gamble his millions this year in place of practicing scoring. He isn’t going to magically develop a quick first step and I doubt he completely changes his shooting form.
I think there is a good chance Tre comes back. You could tell he really loves Duke and hated to lose that game yesterday. He was bawling while Buckmire and someone else was trying to console him.
Tre has had a very emotional last month. The fight his mother is going through right now with breast cancer has been scary for Tre and their family. His dream of being able to go home to Minneapolis and play in front of his friends and family, specifically his mother, is what has been driving him. He hasn't been able to be there for his mom....that was the display of emotion we saw from him yesterday.
Tre is a super kid and wish nothing but the best for him and all of his endeavors, but if he chose to come back it wouldn’t hurt my feelings none, but I feel like he is gone for sure.
I guess one and done has jaded me. I don't care who leaves or stays anymore. It was much tougher watching a Sr play their last game than watching these guys. Wish them nothing but the best and I'm glad they decided to be a part of the brotherhood. Ready for next year to cheer on whoever has D-U-K-E across their chest.
I love Tre. If it’s his desire to get to the league as soon as possible, he needs to leave. His stock probably won’t get any higher. Some of his game has already been exposed so it makes sense to leave before more gets exposed. Sure, I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
An awkward example would be Greg Paulus. He looked like an elite PG his freshman year and went downhill his last 3 years. Jones is certainly better than Greg, but with the bond the four freshman have with each other, I can’t see them leaving one behind.
An awkward example would be Greg Paulus. He looked like an elite PG his freshman year and went downhill his last 3 years. Jones is certainly better than Greg, but with the bond the four freshman have with each other, I can’t see them leaving one behind.
I love the lazy take of “ his stock won’t ever be higher” PJ Washington coming back helped his tremendously. If you think tre can play on an nba level right now you must not watch the nba.
I feel like Tre and Cam both need to come back. If they go to the nba this summer I see them spending a lot of time in the G League
I don't really think many are saying he's ready to play in the NBA right now. I mean, there's maybe like seven or eight kids every year truly ready....of course Tre isn't one of them. Neither is Cam. Neither are a lot of guys.
But....if the NBA is going to draft you with a first-round pick and some guaranteed money, there's worse ways to make a living than collecting a million dollars a year in the G-League. Besides, guys develop there, too, just like in college.
If you’re referring to me, I said *probably*
Also, PJ and Tre play two different positions. What would be asked of Tre next season would be way more than what was asked of PJ Washington. Also, teams would key in more on Jones next year as opposed to this year.
Can he improve? Sure. Can be regress? Sure. We don’t know. Also, with his injury scare, that may make him consider leaving now more than ever as well.
I just don’t see how the dude gets drafted at all in any round. He’s not very athletic and he can’t shoot. He’s good on defense, against average college players, and can’t really penetrate even at college level. No way he gets drafted at all. Duval could peneyo and score better and had a ton more athleticism and couldn’t get drafted.
You guys say he needs to go now before he drops more, I would say he isn’t even close to being draft able by any team
You guys say he needs to go now before he drops more, I would say he isn’t even close to being draft able by any team
I used to think Duke was special and we would get fringe 1st-round players (and certainly 2nd-round or non-drafted players) to stick around that would have bolted from places like UK. I no longer have that delusion. He gone.
Off the top of my head McRoberts went late 2nd Round and Shavlik Randolph undrafted. Both ended up sticking around the NBA til their early 30s.
I think some guys are over the College experience; classes/exams and being just another student on a campus. Rules by the school and basketball program to follow. For such a "celebrity" it must feel to an extent like remaining under parents roof. Why not go be a a professional athlete?
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I totally get it, if he were my kid I'd counsel him to make the move. But as a Duke alum/fan, my loyalty is to the program. Something that makes the team better next year is more important to me than a former player making money in the NBA. If Tre came back, helped us win a title, but his flaws were exposed and he never got an NBA paycheck, that wouldn't bother me at all.
I mean this in no disrespect to Tre, but I can't his game currently producing in the NBA. He should leave if he is offered guaranteed money, no doubt. But to go from playing in an environment like Duke to likely going to the NBA and chilling on the bench every game seems like it'd have to be a drag.
As far as Cam, the lazy defense in the NBA will allow him to hit a three every now and then.
As far as Cam, the lazy defense in the NBA will allow him to hit a three every now and then.
Aside from maybe Bolden, it’s been a while since a freshman who was at some point looked at as an NBA draft pick actually stayed at Duke beyond their frosh season right? I just don't see Tre staying. They are always emotional after a loss, remember Carter? Tre's gone. He shouldn't go yet but he's about to disappear to the NBA like a fart in the wind.
For Tre it is not a question of whether or not returning to school can help his draft stock in a big way, because it absolutely can. He could very easily go from the second round to mid-first, or even higher, with another year of development. For him I think it will come down to a few notions: did he come in 100% dead set on being a one-and-done, because if that is the case they rarely change their minds. Also, he came in as one part of a four-part collective, and the other three are 100% gone. Is he okay being the one still behind? I hope he doesn't exclusively look at it in that context, but it is a factor nonetheless.
I think there is a more than fair chance he comes back. I know it is hard to be optimistic because it seems that everyone always goes no matter what. Either way I wish him well, but boy it would be nice to see him in a Duke uniform again.
I think there is a more than fair chance he comes back. I know it is hard to be optimistic because it seems that everyone always goes no matter what. Either way I wish him well, but boy it would be nice to see him in a Duke uniform again.