Treatment of Brands Bros at OSU
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So you say something stupid, get called out for being stupid, then you try saying you were trollingā¦ hmm where have we heard that before?Taylor is not a level-headed adult. Sorry you didn't know him as well as you thought you did.
Also, I don't apologize for you getting trolled by that comment about showing the Bubba Jenkins match.
Profound.
It's not my fault you didn't like what I said, Brian. I'm not responsible for how you react to my posts. There are no refunds here........
Iowa's [program is in better shape than OSu's was when Taylor took overland look what has happened. Iowa will be back, they will just have different look and wrestling style.
Yeah, he likely doesn't...........but you would know I guess.......
Better hope we donāt let Iowa fall to where Pokes were before we make a change cuz weāre just at the tip of the iceberg if thatās the case.
You could save everyone some time and just admit your understanding of the world is as useful as a turd flavored lollipop.Yeah, he likely doesn't...........but you would know I guess.......
You're one dim bulb, that much I do know.
Just do the best you can. Good luck.I think Nolf is the best fit. Dake #2. Whoever else comes out of the woodwork is #3.
I'm a no on Schwab or Metcalf, both of whom have been mentioned here. Not "new" enough or "big" enough. I'm skeptical of Burroughs but could be persuaded. I just don't think Iowa is a great fit for him.
Is Yianni an option for Assistant? Big picture, whoever Nolf wants to hire.
No clue if/when Tom will be replaced. If I were Beth, yes, I'd replace him at the end of this season. Don't renew the assistants, start with a clean slate. The upside opportunity is now significantly higher than the downside risk, given Iowa's tradition, resources, and fan base. Askren is 100% right on that.
Even with the 27-28-29 talent coming in, we'd still have major holes at 3-4 middle-upper weights each year. Brands' inability to field 10 strong weights isn't going away, and that's where PSU has pulled away. We just have an inability to fire on all cylinders under Tom. His ceiling is relatively fixed and his floor is buffeted by all the advantages that Iowa already has.
My two cents.
I don't think you really think that, do you? I have great respect for them as athletes. Ditto Zaputil, Martin, Davis, Penrith, Melchiore, Griffin. Am I not allowed to disagree with any of them now?
Never ever point out that the Emperor has no clothes. You will be scolded by those who admire the incredible robes of gold.
Definitely agree about Nolf right now. Heās the only one of the bigger name yong guys who has publicly expressed an interest in college coaching, but only as a head coach, wasnāt even interested in coaching with Taylor. He has an idea who he wants on his staff, and says he will basically use all he learned from Cael on how to build and maintain a top program, which is what Taylor is doing. We will have to pony up for the HWC, because he realizes that a big piece of the puzzle for todayās top recruits. He seems to be smart, well spoken, and well liked by younger guys, and was a great technician. We need to go outside the Hawkeye family for the first time in decades. When it comes to PSU, if you canāt beat them, join them. I donāt know if he will still be available 3 years from now when Tomās contract expires. Plus, we could sign Tom to another multi year deal well into his 60ās, did it with basketball and football.
Maybe if we got Dake with Nolf and Kemerer I can see that with TNT running the HWC till the end of the 2028 oly cycle. Stars would have to align, but if getting back to the best of the best year in and year is the goal then it would take a tremendous effort on everything that is Hawkeye Wrestling. Heck John Smith is coaching their girls club team! If TnT are our coaches still and dont make some serious changes for next season, even I would be extremely disappointed.
Pretty much agree 100% across the board. Nolf won NCAA's with one good knee, he's as tough as they come. If he's interested, he's the guy IMO, with Kem as an assistant would be nice too.
Not sure what's up with Keickesen on his international stuff, but he'd be a guy to have around too. (but alas, we know the aggressiveness of the Coach doesnt always translate to the the athlete so......).
If youāre going to get rid of the Brothers Brands, you have to make a complete break. Transferring them to the RTC isnāt going to work. It wouldnāt work with any coach.
Win with class is a lost art. Humility is now being a "*****". Lotta posers out there.
As is losing with respect. Itās always the refās fault, they cheated, etc.
Tarp knows the guys behind the curtain. A lot of you donāt, apparently.
Agreed. When some of you who know how the sausage is made and also about the guys making it, start getting uneasy about the future, then I get uneasy about the future.
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Like I said, the tin foil hat wearers don't have to believe me.........the results will speak for themselves.
Yes because that will prove the world is out to get Iowa wrestling?
I canāt see I see too many people here or elsewhere who think the glory days are coming back. Iowa can be a lot better, though. Despite these secret, dark forces working against them.
BTW, for a program that top recruits are ādoneā looking at, Iowa sure does have a lot of blue chip recruits committed over the next two cycles. At least 5 by my count. Say what you will about being able to hold onto or develop them (and if you did, Iād agree with you), but claiming they arenāt looking anymore is just blatant ignorance. (Thatās my super nice way of saying itās āreally dumb.ā)
Yes because that will prove the world is out to get Iowa wrestling?
I canāt see I see too many people here or elsewhere who think the glory days are coming back. Iowa can be a lot better, though. Despite these secret, dark forces working against them.
BTW, for a program that top recruits are ādoneā looking at, Iowa sure does have a lot of blue chip recruits committed over the next two cycles. At least 5 by my count. Say what you will about being able to hold onto or develop them (and if you did, Iād agree with you), but claiming they arenāt looking anymore is just blatant ignorance. (Thatās my super nice way of saying itās āreally dumb.ā)
I guess "blue chip" is a relative termYes because that will prove the world is out to get Iowa wrestling?
I canāt see I see too many people here or elsewhere who think the glory days are coming back. Iowa can be a lot better, though. Despite these secret, dark forces working against them.
BTW, for a program that top recruits are ādoneā looking at, Iowa sure does have a lot of blue chip recruits committed over the next two cycles. At least 5 by my count. Say what you will about being able to hold onto or develop them (and if you did, Iād agree with you), but claiming they arenāt looking anymore is just blatant ignorance. (Thatās my super nice way of saying itās āreally dumb.ā)
Sorry that the wrestling program will never be or accept being as mid as the other menās programs at Iowa.
My point is some people's blue chips may not be another's. There is a fine line. My definition would be someone who has the potential to win right out the gate.
Ohhhh we're a little late for that....
I never said they would........
It is.
Win what?
Blue chip generally falls around top 10-15 in the class. Still, I donāt think it can be argued that 4 of those commits arenāt blue chippers.
Regardless, he simply said ātop recruitsā which is even less stringent of a standard.
It was a dumb post and that was just one reason why.
Iowa has 5 really good guys but none of them would start at PSU or OSU. How are any of these recruits going to catch them up? These are the level of recruits PSU uses to come in and back fill weaker weights around super stars. Not getting Bo and Melvin sealed the fate of Brands. You can pretty easily know which recruits are the big ones by looking at senior level freestyle results and college open results.Yes because that will prove the world is out to get Iowa wrestling?
I canāt see I see too many people here or elsewhere who think the glory days are coming back. Iowa can be a lot better, though. Despite these secret, dark forces working against them.
BTW, for a program that top recruits are ādoneā looking at, Iowa sure does have a lot of blue chip recruits committed over the next two cycles. At least 5 by my count. Say what you will about being able to hold onto or develop them (and if you did, Iād agree with you), but claiming they arenāt looking anymore is just blatant ignorance. (Thatās my super nice way of saying itās āreally dumb.ā)