And Cal did not recruit Noah he would be playing for SC if not for coach Pope.
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I agree... I wonder the same thing with Perry (PG size but more SG game). Hopefully both guys can put in the work to enhance their quickness a bit...wouldn't hurt if they grew an extra inch or 2 either.
Like you, I'm not saying they cannot/won't be contributors regardless b/c they already have good skills, but being in a college strength/conditioning program and adding a little quickness will help them immensely.
I did have a smile on my face thinking that Perry and Noah will be foundational pieces the next couple years.
I'm not yet sold either of them will be NBA guys, but I see these guys as potentially having great college careers. I think they will have professional careers, but I just wonder if it will be overseas somewhere.
Fair. They still need to grow and mature, but luckily they have a lot of vets who can help guide them this season.
Perry is a whole different issue. He looks so small and slow against an inferior team. And his handle is not tight at all. Hopefully Pope can scheme him some corner 3’s like Cameron Mills used to get.
Definitely a very impressive debut.
He's off to a great start!
He's off to a great start!
Noah can contribute this year for sure and was shocked he didn’t get in the first half, his court time is going to be based on whether he can defend especially vs the elite teams. I think he can cause his IQ is unbelievable and he knows he’s got to get quicker and be an intelligent defender. He will also need to play along side of some legit nba talent as well. He can play off those guys which can be some hs AAs coming in or the portal but Noah will be fine. Perry……..I worry he’s only a shooter, didn’t see the speed or explosiveness you need at his size. Got lost on D several times on routine back picks and this is a D2 school, at his size he can’t afford to be slow and not able to guard anyone.
A very big reason for Pitino's success is that he put his teams in outstanding physical condition. I see Noah as a player with very good skills who could develop into something very special with a year of intense physical conditioning. The same could be said about many players on this team. Mind you, I'm not saying that they're in bad physical shape now. But it would be good to see this team in condition to full court press for 40 minutes a game. Noah seems to be an excellent candidate for that. He's a Kentucky boy so he already has the motivation and he already possesses many of the basketball skills that he could benefit even more from if he was in elite muscular and cardio physical condition.
I was surprised at how well he ran the point. Handled the ball well. Passes well So much Bball iq. As he matures he will be a top pg.
Basically, I'd like to see Coach Pope emphasize physical conditioning in the same way that Coach Hall and Coach Pitino did. Their teams were both physically *and* mentally strong. They knew going out on the floor that they were in much better physical condition than the other team and it gave them a high level of confidence in themselves.
I agree. I would have no issues with him running point. Defensively, though, he was not good.
Agreed ... if Perry is going to be used more as a PG, he'll have to learn the position as he goes along.
He was an off-guard in high school.
Dontaie was no where near Trent Noah level. Not only can the kid shoot, but he has one of the highest motor and work ethic out of anyone I have ever seen and I got to watch the kid for 5 years in Harlan County. He will not be outworked and he has as high of an IQ as any veteran player around college basketball. Once his body develops more with the weight training I am telling you this kid will be a major contributor for the next three years after this one. You won't find a better kid either maturity and respect wise.
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He’s got plenty time to learn without pressure with Butler and Krissa mentoring him. He sure knows how to play.
What about his tips on offensive rebounds to open players who then scored. IQ plays.
Fans have to get away from wanting the Cal athlete vs the skilled high iq bball player. Not every player has to be great at both ends. Blend in varied skill sets.
Perry plays similar to an old school guy Louie Dampier. Not the biggest, quickest best defensive player but sure contributed with heady play and a deadly jumper. Hope he turns out close to him and he’s got 4 years to get there.
I would almost rather Noah redshirt this year, just so we can get his peak for 4 solid years. I don't see the minutes for him this year with Robinson on the team.
He does. He said Kerr was hurt because of the intense conditioning they did.
Just seems so comfortable out there. He carries himself like he belongs, not a kid hoping for spot minutes.
I think it'll be tough to find minutes this year. I hope when we have some blow out wins, Pope lets these guys get some run rather than waiting until there's 1 minute left on the clock.
I think it'll be tough to find minutes this year. I hope when we have some blow out wins, Pope lets these guys get some run rather than waiting until there's 1 minute left on the clock.
Pope is not concerned about anyone's NBA potential that he's recruiting. We, as fans, have gotten conditioned to looking at a player's possible draft position and going by that in our college performance projections. I really don't care how high or if a guy is going to get drafted, I am concerned about how they will do at Kentucky. It's all about banners now.
Easy man. McDermott was damned good. Like good enough to start from his freshman year forward. Averaged like 15 as a frosh and lead the country in scoring as a senior. Both are white. Both are 6'6". I'll give you that. But pump the brakes just a tad. It's not simple having Doug McDermott's skill set.
I do like watching Noah play. He looks exactly like what an eastern KY kid should look like out there. Tshirt under the jersey, appears to be a really tall 12 yr old, and he can just flat shoot it. He's going to be a favorite quickly.
That's still a possibility considering last night was only an exhibition, but my guess is if he shows what most know he is capable of then he wouldn't be here for four total years anyways.
Over-react a little? Yeah, that's what we (BBN) do!!!
And first game we struggle and beat a bottom 100 school by 4, 72-68, making 8 of 30 3's, we (BBN) will over-react in the other direction and agonize over how Pope is in over his head and we just don't have the talent, and so on. SMH.
These kids (on every team) are NOT machines. They have hot nights, and cold nights, there is variability.
And first game we struggle and beat a bottom 100 school by 4, 72-68, making 8 of 30 3's, we (BBN) will over-react in the other direction and agonize over how Pope is in over his head and we just don't have the talent, and so on. SMH.
These kids (on every team) are NOT machines. They have hot nights, and cold nights, there is variability.
Great point. I though Noah looks a little doughy and maybe 15 points overweight....turn that into lean muscle at 6-5 205 and I think we'll have a terrific player.
I think the euros in the nba have shown us that extra weight helps players who lack athletic ability. bullying is a skill all on its own.
It was easier for Hall's teams to do that: Hall was among the first wave of coaches who understood the importance of fitness. And he understood the methodical way to achieve it.
He wants to put players into the league and it is important to do so but it is not the primary focus but rather something that comes with success on the court.
I’ll wait until some real competition, but with his size and play so far he can at least contribute a few minutes a game without being any sort of liability. That is great to have toward your 10-12th guys on the bench.
Noah's ceiling is Wally Szczerbiak/Matt Harpring, which is a pretty high ceiling.
Agreed.
And it's all about money for these players now. They are NIL employees.
And if people are thinking the "banners" are gonna start raining down, they may want to review the last 65 years of UK history. You would have though UK was dominating the prior 50 years before calipari. 3 titles n 50 years.
And the main reason we haven't won more is due to awful injuries (1997, 2014, 2015 in last 30 years alone) and horrific officiating (2017 to name the most egregious)
Dontaie played for a man that did everything he could do to kill his confidence. Dontaie's biggest mistake was playing for someone who didn't even pretend to want him on the team.
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Anyone else get the feeling that Noah and Perry are going to lead us to a title and go down as one of the better KY duos of all time?
McDermott was an excellent college player. When he got an open shot, he made it. Plus his dad is a good coach that knew how to get him open shots
If you're going to blame Calipari for his lack of production, then you also have to blame Rick Stansbury and Steve Lutz.
No, it is possible to rob a person of their confidence in ways that will never allow them to regain it.
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