Trump follows up his Navy promise/lie by sidelining 110 A-10 Warthogs for golf money

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The Air Force has 283 A-10s divided into nine squadrons, and as DefenseNews reports today, the service's 2018 budget includes money to operate and maintain all of them. The problem is that these older planes need new wing sets because many of the wings are reaching the end of their operational lifetimes. However, the budget funds new wings for only six squadrons, or 173 planes. Do the math and you can see that leaves 110 Warthogs out in the cold.

The short-term solution seems to be for Congress to approve the money for A-10 wings that the Pentagon asked for in its "unfunded priorities" list, which, as we explained earlier this week, is basically the military's wish list for things it would love to have if the money is there. That won't pay for all these new Boeing wings, though. So the Warthog saga slogs on.

 

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173 A-10s are better than ZERO A-10s...

owebama tried to get rid of the A-10...


Obama Cuts Defeated! The A-10 Warthog Lives! - Armored Column
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Dec 25, 2015 - An A-10 Thunderbolt II takes off to provide close-air support to ground troops in Iraq April 25 from Al Asad Air Base, Iraq. The 438th Air ...

air-force-a10-retirement-2016-budget - Air Force Times
https://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/02/02/air...a10.../22743569/
Feb 2, 2015 - Air Force will try to cut A-10 fleet again ... and last week wrote a letter to President Obama and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel urging them to ...

Obama to Joint Chiefs: Cut A-10 Warthog & Abrams Tank: We Need ...
joeforamerica.com/.../obama-to-joint-chiefs-cut-the-a-10-warthog-the-abrams-tank-w...
Feb 26, 2015 - Obama believes that funds for social experimentation like the foolishness of transgenderism is far more important than unit cohesion.

Obama Requests 'Smaller' $500 Billion Defense Budget - Defense One
www.defenseone.com/business/2014/03/obama-requests-smaller-500.../79813/
Mar 4, 2014 - President Obama's fiscal 2015 budget request, released on Tuesday, ... Act. Obama's budget cuts the size of the military's ranks andcuts into most ... refueling tanker and the F-35, but the A-10 close combat fleet will be retired.
 
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owebama reduced the USAF to visiting scrapyards for parts...


'Wiped Out': Air Force losing pilots and planes to cuts, scrounging for ...
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May 14, 2016 - Then there is the shortage of parts, which is pushing the Air Force to ..... King Obama has no military leadership skills, or he wouldn't allow this.


Budget cuts leaving Marine Corps aircraft grounded | Fox News
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Apr 17, 2016 - The cuts include those made by the Obama administration as well as the sequestration ..... Poor decision on the part of command not the budget. ... Yes , they may leave USMC aircraft grounded BUT AIR FORCEONE is ready ...


As troops scour museums for spare parts, Republicans hit Obama on ...
www.washingtonexaminer.com/as-troops-scour...for...parts...obama-on.../2593193
Jun 7, 2016 - "Another group of folks flocking to museums, and one you might not ... saying that Air Force pilots were stripping parts of museum planes to put ...


Obama Sending Military Scrounging Through The "Boneyard" | The ...
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May 15, 2016 - The sprawling graveyard for old military planes no longer in service – in ... Then there is the shortage of parts, which is pushing the Air Force to ...


One of owebamas last acts as President was to send money to Kenya....

to help out their air force...

he certainly didn't give a **** about ours...


State Clears $1.8B Obama-Era Foreign Weapons Sales - Defense News
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Jan 24, 2017 - State Clears $1.8B Obama-Era Foreign Weapons Sales ... An estimated $418 million from Kenya to purchase up to 12 Air Tractor AT- ... The same money that is used to blow up Palestinian hospitals, schools, and ... Four 'preferred nominees' for top Air Force positions have been found, its civilian head says.
 
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Still blaming Trump's campaign lies on Obama? Give it up BookmarkBoy, links from years ago don't mean ****. Obama is reading the paper on the sunporch with his coffee. Hillary's knitting Christmas presents. Bill is out cruising for babes. Your chosen king is golfing, firing people, lying, and shtting his bed every night until he's impeached. That's all that matters now. Your little bookmarks and twitter copy/paste junk is meaningless.
 

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Still blaming Trump's campaign lies on Obama? Give it up BookmarkBoy, links from years ago don't mean ****. Obama is reading the paper on the sunporch with his coffee. Hillary's knitting Christmas presents. Bill is out cruising for babes. Your chosen king is golfing, firing people, lying, and shtting his bed every night until he's impeached. That's all that matters now. Your little bookmarks and twitter copy/paste junk is meaningless.
Clearly you have no idea about the state of our military readiness due to sequestration and continuing resolution. It's going to take us a decade or more to recover.
 

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Clearly you have no idea about the state of our military readiness due to sequestration and continuing resolution. It's going to take us a decade or more to recover.
Wasn't that a Tea Party deal? Is our military really a "decade or more" behind or is it just hurtful to your bottom dollar? I'm not judging, just curious.
 

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Wasn't that a Tea Party deal? Is our military really a "decade or more" behind or is it just hurtful to your bottom dollar? I'm not judging, just curious.
I actually blame both sides of the aisle for this ****.

From a spares, readiness, and training perspective, the last 5 years took a significant toll. Think of it like any mechanical device. You can spend the $X amount of money providing sustainment to it over an uninterrupted period of time or you can keep using it and only doing the absolute bare minimum to keep it operational. After a while on the bare minimum plan, you are going to have to do a complete reset which will catch all of the other stuff up and and cost about 30%-50% more than if you had doing incremental sustainment.

Also, a lot of R&D has gone by the wayside because money was being used for combat sustainment (with an understaffed green suit force, more reliance on contractors). Decisions were made to fund X project, train X unit, or deploy to X location. The deployments usually won out. A lot of upgrades to existing platforms didn't get funded the last 5 years. This will cause a ripple effect seen over the course of the next 5-10 years. Defense budgets are going to have to catch up or we are going to compound the upkeep and MX costs and look like the USSR in about 93 with a bunch of cool **** and no money to keep it running.
 

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173 A-10s are better than ZERO A-10s...

owebama tried to get rid of the A-10...


Obama Cuts Defeated! The A-10 Warthog Lives! - Armored Column
armored-column.com › Featured Posts
Dec 25, 2015 - An A-10 Thunderbolt II takes off to provide close-air support to ground troops in Iraq April 25 from Al Asad Air Base, Iraq. The 438th Air ...

air-force-a10-retirement-2016-budget - Air Force Times
https://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/02/02/air...a10.../22743569/
Feb 2, 2015 - Air Force will try to cut A-10 fleet again ... and last week wrote a letter to President Obama and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel urging them to ...

Obama to Joint Chiefs: Cut A-10 Warthog & Abrams Tank: We Need ...
joeforamerica.com/.../obama-to-joint-chiefs-cut-the-a-10-warthog-the-abrams-tank-w...
Feb 26, 2015 - Obama believes that funds for social experimentation like the foolishness of transgenderism is far more important than unit cohesion.

Obama Requests 'Smaller' $500 Billion Defense Budget - Defense One
www.defenseone.com/business/2014/03/obama-requests-smaller-500.../79813/
Mar 4, 2014 - President Obama's fiscal 2015 budget request, released on Tuesday, ... Act. Obama's budget cuts the size of the military's ranks andcuts into most ... refueling tanker and the F-35, but the A-10 close combat fleet will be retired.
smacked him down again.....it just won't learn that it can't deal with our rapier like minds