Trump needs to disavow support of pedo Yiannopoulos IMMEDIATELY.

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"On a day when CPAC booted Yiannopoulosas a keynote speaker over his comments about sex with minors — and Simon & Schuster canceled publication of his book — Trump and White House senior adviser Steve Bannon have been strangely quiet.

The Trump tweet went out on Feb. 2 after Yiannopoulos was prevented from speaking at the California university by protesters with Trump responding If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view – NO FEDERAL FUNDS?”


See the tweet below:


If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view – NO FEDERAL FUNDS?


— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 2, 2017
 

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"On a day when CPAC booted Yiannopoulosas a keynote speaker over his comments about sex with minors — and Simon & Schuster canceled publication of his book — Trump and White House senior adviser Steve Bannon have been strangely quiet.

The Trump tweet went out on Feb. 2 after Yiannopoulos was prevented from speaking at the California university by protesters with Trump responding If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view – NO FEDERAL FUNDS?”


See the tweet below:


If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view – NO FEDERAL FUNDS?


— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 2, 2017

Read a bit about Milo's pen comments. Should Bill Ayers be given a prestigious spot at the University of Chicago? Domestic terrorist, for example? Police officers were killed.

Should Angela Davis be given a prestigious teaching spot at the University of California, Santa Cruz?

Selective outrage.

And Trump's tweet went out after riot occurred, property damage, personal injuries all to prevent someone from speaking. Apparently you are ok with this. Not very liberal of you suppressing free speech.
 

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Read a bit about Milo's pen comments. Should Bill Ayers be given a prestigious spot at the University of Chicago? Domestic terrorist, for example? Police officers were killed.

Should Angela Davis be given a prestigious teaching spot at the University of California, Santa Cruz?

Selective outrage.

And Trump's tweet went out after riot occurred, property damage, personal injuries all to prevent someone from speaking. Apparently you are ok with this. Not very liberal of you suppressing free speech.
I don't have a clue what any of that has to do with my post, or Yiannopoulos. What are you talking about?
 

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Actually "the right" supports Yiannopoulos. He's a Breitbart editor.

I'm still awaiting more news before I convict Milo. I've paid attention to him for about 4, 5 months. I don't think this view would be in his personae. He says the video is heavily edited to ramp up the view of him that you desire. Matter of fact, he also states he's turned in 3 pedophiles, more than any that his enemies have done. We shall see.

Added: That video has been on the interwebs for over a year. The timing of this onslaught, with CPAC, more than coincidence.
 

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I don't have a clue what any of that has to do with my post, or Yiannopoulos. What are you talking about?

I am talking about lib hypocrisy. Go after Milo, what he said is abhorrent although you need to read his full statement. Milo never engaged in pedophilla and was himself victimized when he was 13.

These Dems are lionized by the Dems and they actually committed domestic terrorism trying and succeeding in killing cops and Mumia is a cause celebre after killing a Philly police officer. They are darlings of the left. Selective outrage.
 

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I'm alt right then? I'm confused. Of course I threw out a Wheezer reference too. Maybe I am confused.
You would know better than I, but I peg you as, at minimum, alt-curious.

I did not say ONLY ALT-RIGHT people support him, I was speaking in generalities. Not every subject is black and white.
 

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He may not have said it. Context matters. He might've been Couric'd.




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Milo Yiannopoulos Getty Images/Drew Angerer
Milo Angrily Denies Defending Sex Abuse: ‘A Vile And Disgusting Crime’


SCOTT GREER
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The Conservative Political Action Conference’s (CPAC) invitation of Breitbart Tech editor Milo Yiannopoulos as a featured speaker has drawn outrage after a clip was released Sunday purporting to show the right-wing provocateur defending pedophilia.

Several conservatives, many of whom were prominent NeverTrumpers, have called on CPAC to drop Yiannopoulos as a speaker in response to the video.

But Milo is pushing back against the allegations. He released a statement Sunday night claiming he himself was a victim of sex abuse as a minor.

“The videos do not show what people say they show. I did joke about giving better head as a result of clerical sexual abuse committed against me when I was a teen. If I choose to deal in an edgy way on an internet livestream with a crime I was the victim of that’s my prerogative. It’s no different to gallows humor from AIDS sufferers,” he wrote in his statement posted on Facebook.

He declared that he is absolutely repulsed by child molesters and dismissed the outrage as a coordinated effort by anti-Trump conservatives to him removed from CPAC.

“I do not support pedophilia. Period. It is a vile and disgusting crime, perhaps the very worst,” Yiannopoulos stated. “There are selectively edited videos doing the rounds, as part of a co-ordinated effort to discredit me from establishment Republicans, that suggest I am soft on the subject.”

He added that he has exposed three pedophiles in his reporting: Louise Mensch’s former business partner Luke Bozier, anti-Gamergate activist Nicholas Nyberg and tech reporter Chris Leydon.

The Breitbart writer also penned a lengthy attack on pedophiles and their alleged progressive defenders in 2015.

In his statement, Milo singled out National Review for criticism because prominent writers, such as Jonah Goldberg and Jay Nordlinger, have been very vocal in wanting Yiannopoulos ousted from CPAC.

“National Review, whose journalists are tweeting about this, published an article defending Salon for giving a pedophile a platform,” he said.

Yiannopoulos clarified that he meant young men and not actual “boys” when speaking in the clip.

“I did say that there are relationships between younger men and older men that can help a young gay man escape from a lack of support or understanding at home. That’s perfectly true and every gay man knows it. But I was not talking about anything illegal and I was not referring to pre-pubescent boys,” Milo said. “I shouldn’t have used the word ‘boy’ when I talked about those relationships between older men and younger gay men.”

In another Facebook post, Milo pointed out that the clip in question also shows him affirming the legal age of consent.

So far, the American Conservative Union is standing by its decision to have Milo as one of CPAC’s featured speakers in spite of the outcry. Before the clip was released Sunday, there was already outrage over CPAC’s decision because of Milo’s politics and alleged associations with the alt-right.

Yiannopoulos’s statement concluded with a shot at his conservative critics. “This rush to judgment from establishment conservatives who hate Trump as much as they hate me, before I have had any chance to provide context or a response, is one of the big reasons gays vote Democrat.”



Tags: CPAC, Milo Yiannopoulos
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/19/m...se-a-vile-and-disgusting-crime/#ixzz4ZKrflh2C
 
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I don't think he belongs at CPAC, and certainly not top billing. That's not his role.

I agree although CPAC is losing it's once highly held prestige. The party is changing and CPAC better become more relevant.

Who would have thought that is such a few short years, the Dems would be the party of the coastal elites, globalism (hurting American workers), media elites and that the GOP would become the party of the working man and woman. So strange to see this realignment occurring.
 

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I don't think he really belonged at CPAC even before this. He's not a traditional conservative and I'm not sure how conservative he is in general. He's a provacateur and his schtick seems to be going against whatever is PC. If somehow the right became the side of PC I suspect he'd shift over to the left. I think his larger purpose is to mock and taunt people that are intolerant and self-important.
 

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I don't think he really belonged at CPAC even before this. He's not a traditional conservative and I'm not sure how conservative he is in general. He's a provacateur and his schtick seems to be going against whatever is PC. If somehow the right became the side of PC I suspect he'd shift over to the left. I think his larger purpose is to mock and taunt people that are intolerant and self-important.

You finally posted something I could make sense of, and mostly agree with. I could have a beer summit with Milo, even though I think he's lifestyle is an abomination.
 

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I don't think he really belonged at CPAC even before this. He's not a traditional conservative and I'm not sure how conservative he is in general. He's a provacateur and his schtick seems to be going against whatever is PC. If somehow the right became the side of PC I suspect he'd shift over to the left. I think his larger purpose is to mock and taunt people that are intolerant and self-important.

He has admitted that he is more libertarian than conservative and you are most certainly right that he is a provocateur. But inviting someone to speak is not the same as embracing them. Some of Milo's stances and demonstrating that the left is not committed to free speech has been eye opening particularly on campuses. That has been a great benefit to Americans to see what is actually going on in academia.

Dems have long had very controversial speakers that I am certain you would disavow as Dems.
 

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He has admitted that he is more libertarian than conservative and you are most certainly right that he is a provocateur. But inviting someone to speak is not the same as embracing them. Some of Milo's stances and demonstrating that the left is not committed to free speech has been eye opening particularly on campuses. That has been a great benefit to Americans to see what is actually going on in academia.

Dems have long had very controversial speakers that I am certain you would disavow as Dems.

I'm not sure what that last sentence means but I am not a Democrat. I have been registered Independent my entire life. I do agree that on college campuses the left is the more intolerant side and it's not a close contest.
 

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I'm not sure what that last sentence means but I am not a Democrat. I have been registered Independent my entire life. I do agree that on college campuses the left is the more intolerant side and it's not a close contest.

OK, I'll bite. You're not a Dem/lib? What parts of your ideology make you conservative and what parts make you liberal?
 

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I'm still awaiting more news before I convict Milo. I've paid attention to him for about 4, 5 months. I don't think this view would be in his personae. He says the video is heavily edited to ramp up the view of him that you desire. Matter of fact, he also states he's turned in 3 pedophiles, more than any that his enemies have done. We shall see.

Added: That video has been on the interwebs for over a year. The timing of this onslaught, with CPAC, more than coincidence.

Absolutely more than coincidence. He was just on Bill Maher's show, which led to a heated panel exchange, in which pedophilia was briefly mentioned.

It's the left's modus operandi, sit on something they deem damning, wait for a moment of vulnerability and release it, spinning the context of it way out of proportion. They've been wanting to silence him for a long time because some of what he says... SOME.... is dead on true.

Their next target will be Ben Shapiro.
 

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Absolutely more than coincidence. He was just on Bill Maher's show, which led to a heated panel exchange, in which pedophilia was briefly mentioned.

It's the left's modus operandi, sit on something they deem damning, wait for a moment of vulnerability and release it, spinning the context of it way out of proportion. They've been wanting to silence him for a long time because some of what he says... SOME.... is dead on true.

Their next target will be Ben Shapiro.
The left? I'm pretty sure actual conservatives are the ones that re-surfaced the video.
 

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The left? I'm pretty sure actual conservatives are the ones that re-surfaced the video.

Correct, this is the same GOP staunch conservative anti-Trumper group that did this. Not that Milo and Trump play in the same ball field.
 

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Absolutely more than coincidence. He was just on Bill Maher's show, which led to a heated panel exchange, in which pedophilia was briefly mentioned.

It's the left's modus operandi, sit on something they deem damning, wait for a moment of vulnerability and release it, spinning the context of it way out of proportion. They've been wanting to silence him for a long time because some of what he says... SOME.... is dead on true.

Their next target will be Ben Shapiro.

I read this oppo research was conducted by NEVERTRUMPers. Not the Dems.
 

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Correct, this is the same GOP staunch conservative anti-Trumper group that did this. Not that Milo and Trump play in the same ball field.

My apologies then. Still seems very timed considering his recent appearance on Maher's show.
 

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OK, I'll bite. You're not a Dem/lib? What parts of your ideology make you conservative and what parts make you liberal?

I'd say that I'm generally socially liberal and generally for free markets, which is considered more conservative. I'd consider myself a classical liberal, which is somewhat different than a "iberal" in the US in 2017.

I try not to be dogmatic though so my opinion on a particular subject may not fit that. One part of Obamacare is an example. Some got upset that people were either forced to buy insurance or to pay a fine otherwise. But in a society where if someone gets sick we are going to give them care whether they have insurance or not, it feels free market-y to force them to either buy insurance or pay a fine. After all, if they don't buy insurance then they still have de facto insurance (that being the rest of society paying if they get sick).

Does that restrict their freedom a bit? Yes it does, but IMO it's the price you pay when you live in a society that is going to give you care when you get sick whether you have money or insurance or not.

Note that this isn't an endorsement of Obamacare in general but rather of the specific point that people that refuse to buy insurance or pay a fine are in effect free riders. I'd think the same about any health care plan. I think it a free market thing to think that way. But if you say it with reference to Obamacare you get labeled a liberal.
 

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I'd say that I'm generally socially liberal and generally for free markets, which is considered more conservative. I'd consider myself a classical liberal, which is somewhat different than a "iberal" in the US in 2017.

I try not to be dogmatic though so my opinion on a particular subject may not fit that. One part of Obamacare is an example. Some got upset that people were either forced to buy insurance or to pay a fine otherwise. But in a society where if someone gets sick we are going to give them care whether they have insurance or not, it feels free market-y to force them to either buy insurance or pay a fine. After all, if they don't buy insurance then they still have de facto insurance (that being the rest of society paying if they get sick).

Does that restrict their freedom a bit? Yes it does, but IMO it's the price you pay when you live in a society that is going to give you care when you get sick whether you have money or insurance or not.

Note that this isn't an endorsement of Obamacare in general but rather of the specific point that people that refuse to buy insurance or pay a fine are in effect free riders. I'd think the same about any health care plan. I think it a free market thing to think that way. But if you say it with reference to Obamacare you get labeled a liberal.

I can see why you are independent. If you are a classic liberal, like David Rubin, it is easy to see some disenchantment from the current direction of the Dem party. The GOP has it's own issues to deal with as it is also being transformed.

As I posed earlier, the Dems are now the party of the elites, globalists, media elites, and special interest/identity groups. The GOP is becoming the populist party of the average working man/woman. Big changes in both parties.
 

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Absolutely more than coincidence. He was just on Bill Maher's show, which led to a heated panel exchange, in which pedophilia was briefly mentioned.

It's the left's modus operandi, sit on something they deem damning, wait for a moment of vulnerability and release it, spinning the context of it way out of proportion. They've been wanting to silence him for a long time because some of what he says... SOME.... is dead on true.

Their next target will be Ben Shapiro.

CPAC is part of the left now?

I don't recall pedophilia being mentioned on Maher's show, and it seemed to me that the panel didn't reflect on Milo at all. Or course that was 4 days ago, so I can't be counted on to remember it that well these days. :)

I don't care for Maher all that much, but I do like his show because he brings people from all sides on there. I have to admit that I got a much different impression of Milo after seeing him on that show ... all I had really seen or heard before was what has been said about him without hearing him say anything.

As somebody else stated, he's basically just a provocateur ... it seems that too many people take the bait.
 

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CPAC is part of the left now?

I don't recall pedophilia being mentioned on Maher's show, and it seemed to me that the panel didn't reflect on Milo at all. Or course that was 4 days ago, so I can't be counted on to remember it that well these days. :)

I don't care for Maher all that much, but I do like his show because he brings people from all sides on there. I have to admit that I got a much different impression of Milo after seeing him on that show ... all I had really seen or heard before was what has been said about him without hearing him say anything.

As somebody else stated, he's basically just a provocateur ... it seems that too many people take the bait.
He came off as much less intelligent than I was giving him credit for...he's just a front man for a media con...not really all that funny either.
 

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CPAC is part of the left now?

I don't recall pedophilia being mentioned on Maher's show, and it seemed to me that the panel didn't reflect on Milo at all.
I think Milo joined the panel for the YouTube portion of the show, after it went off HBO. I didn't watch so I have no idea what they talked about, but just wanted to point that out.
 

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Stepped on your toes did he?
No. I liked a couple of points he made, but he just really didn't seem very well spoken. His biggest asset in the portion I watched was his "outrageous" affiliation with the right (which he alluded to several times). Just sounded like another loudmouth know it all that claims to "stand" for something, but really just loves conflict and attention. I see why you connect with him so.
 

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I think Milo joined the panel for the YouTube portion of the show, after it went off HBO. I didn't watch so I have no idea what they talked about, but just wanted to point that out.

In addition to being part of the panel at the end he had a one-on-one with Bill Maher at the beginning.

 

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I think Milo joined the panel for the YouTube portion of the show, after it went off HBO. I didn't watch so I have no idea what they talked about, but just wanted to point that out.

OK ... I never watch the Youtube portion ... so I assume that's where the pedophilia comment came up.