http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/13/white-house-seeks-to-cut-billions-in-funding-for-united-nations/
Libs at this site are crying. Make it happen Donald.
Libs at this site are crying. Make it happen Donald.
Trump to seek huge cuts at U.N.
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I'm not sure why you think this is necessarily a good thing. The US is a world leader and has been for a long time and although that comes with costs it also comes with a lot of benefits. Retreating from the world has drawbacks too.
Obama retreated from the world. Remember, leading from behind? The U.N. is feckless and anti-semitic. The waste of money at the U.N. is beyond imagination, imo. They put countries like Saudi Arabia on the Human Rights Commission. It's an absolute joke.
We are $20T in debt. Time for others to step up.
I also think Trump makes huge cuts in government agencies. Bloated, overpaid bureaucrats. If we are going to spend on critical items like defense and infrastructure, that money must come from somewhere and no better place than the government coffers.
"Stepping up" means "taking control." Time for us to cede control to others that step up?
I agree that Obama retreated from some parts of the world but one part of the world he didn't retreat from was Asia and in fact he had his "pivot to Asia" thing. Part of the point of that was to counter rapidly rising China. And a lot of Asian countries liked that because they don't want to be under China's thumb so having the US as a counterweight is a good thing in their eyes.
I think the country happiest about Trump's foreign policy is China. They'd be very happy to have the US start looking inwards. That makes it easier for them to dominate Asia.
OP, you just pivoted from the UN and spending cuts to foreign policy ( I suspect because I brought up Obama's policy of leading from behind). I respectfully disagree about Obama's Asia pivot. China is running roughshod over the South China Sea and threatening Taiwan. North Korea is a basket case of nuclear weaponry and missiles and zero was done to reign them in. At least Trump is applying enormous pressure on China to step it up (China recently stopped buying coal from Korea for fear of angering Trump). China has the most influence on the Koreans. Trump is sending defensive weapons to South Korea and working with Japan on counter measures. Trump also sent a fleet of ships off of Korea's coast as a show of our resolve and our strength.
I think Obama's supposed Asia pivot was about as successful as his disengagement from the Middle East.
Again, the U.N. is absolutely feckless. They're anti-semitic. A huge waste of money. Time for other countries to step it up and support the U.N. more fully if they think it is valuable.
Obama's pivot to Asia was fine and smart because Asia is up and coming to put it mildly. The whole point of it was that the worlds center of power (aside from the US I mean) is shifting from Europe to Asia and so the US must shift too. Pivoting to Asia was also part of the point of the TPP, although that is gone now. I can see how some in the US oppose the TPP because it hurts their personal economics but it helps to US to be engaged in powerful parts of the world
As I pointed out, I was not opposed to Obama "pivoting to Asia," but he completely disregarded the Middle East and lead from behind to disastrous consequences. In addition, his Asian policies were also disastrous. North Korean nuclear and missile technology went unchecked. It has destabilized our key allies, South Korea and Japan (which both recently received vital military aid from the U.S. China is on the march in the South China Sea exercising it hegemony of the region, threatening Taiwan. Obama never got China to exercise any control over North Korea.
That is now changing. China is engaging in North Korea by stopping the flow of North Korean coal into China. A good first step.
LOL. I'm sure no country wants to trade with the world's largest consumer market. We can negotiate bi-lateral agreements, including with China. The hand wringing among libs on this issue is astounding. The unions hated TPP and yet the board's libs, who love unions, love it. Interesting.
lol Retreating from the world is Trump's stated goal. What is "leading from behind"? That was just a right wing fake news slogan mostly seen only on obscure message boards. The U.S. has always been the leader of the free world until Trump got elected. That's too much responsibility for him, he's not that kind of leader and besides, who would follow him? Most western democracies are just watching in wide eyed amazement when they're not laughing at us.
Where did I express support for the TPP? Just pointed out that they filled the vacuum that we created. Also no one has been able to do much with North Korea. China's been concerned that we are heading to war with NK under Trump, that doesn't seem like progress to me.
Trump never said he would retreat from the world. He said his job is to do what is best for America, America First. And I see Merkel visits next week, I believe. Why visit if she is so busy laughing?
Obama did lead from behind. So many examples. Caused the rise of ISIS, 500,000 dead in Aleppo, Libya controlled to a large extent by ISIS, millions upon millions of migrants flooding and destabilizing Europe.
Nice try.
Why even mention TPP if you did not favor it? Or at least say that Trump got it right by shedding TPP. But no, you mentioned TPP as an advocate. Now you're in full retreat mode. Wow. That was quick.
Obama screwed up the Middle East and Europe. He pivoted to Asia and both North Korea and China are on the march. What didn't he screw up?
At least Trump is taking action. China is putting pressure on North Korea by stopping the flow of coal. What's will China do next? Military assets deployed to both South Korea and Japan. U.S. Navy off the shores of North Korea. Trump has done more in 45 days to alter North Korea's behavior than Obama did in 8 years.
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lol when you say alter behavior do you mean them firing more missiles? increase bellicose talk? if so, then Trump's plan is "working" 'cause NK has been cranking it up lately. My advice to Trump, don't **** it up.
