didn't Trumplethinskin already have a White House celebration on its passage? [roll]:flush:
What a buffoon.
What a buffoon.
Trumpcare stalled in the Senate which surprises me because....
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Here's the issue and i have said it for years but i guess one more time.
The GOP do not care about governing for what is best for the American people. They govern for a few special interest, the rich, and themselves. They are good at whining and spinning an emotional belief convincing the public that others are a problem and tgey have a solution. They don't as most of their solutions either suck or unachievable. This is a great example. Hopefully, more Americans wake up and realize their fraud.
The GOP do not care about governing for what is best for the American people. They govern for a few special interest, the rich, and themselves. They are good at whining and spinning an emotional belief convincing the public that others are a problem and tgey have a solution. They don't as most of their solutions either suck or unachievable. This is a great example. Hopefully, more Americans wake up and realize their fraud.
Oh I see....fixing it and replacing it is completely different? You're just looking for political capital, not an actual agenda then?
Obamacare cannot be sustained. Minor surgery will not make it more affordable. The CBO totally whiffed on scoring it. Since Democrats will never admit to this, the only way to justify any replacement that supposedly removes people from insurance is to let it die on the vine, so they're already off insurance. Otherwise Democrats will again play partisan politics and the GOP wants to kill off grandma.
So the Democrats put in crappy Obamacare so that people would get sick of it and then eventually demand that we go to the Democrats real goal of a single payer system? Do you realize that that implicitly assumes that the GOPs response to Obamacare will be so ineffectual that the public will again eventually turn to the Democrats to solve the issue? Then again, so far it's looking like that assumption is on the mark.
Wow, where did that come from? A segment of the Left has veered hard into identity politics and that is hurting the Dems nationally IMO but that's a whole other topic and it has nothing to do with health care.
Okay then, everything has everything to do with everything else. If that's the case then what's the point of discussion?
Yeah, and the GOP isn't being partisan at all....geez.....you guys are unbelievable
You keep pushing "fix Obamacare". It's not possible. The costs are too much. You want compromise, which means GOP compromises everything and we go to single payer. No thanks. pre-Obamacare is better than any of this train wreck since.
The GOP, at least some of them, beleive in your freedom to make the choices you want. You believe that you are incapable of making your own decisions.
The costs are too much for universal health care for the GOP, and that in a nutshell is their problem. If Obamacare is such a train wreck go ahead and repeal it already, lol. The Democrats were trying to provide health care for everyone, not sure what the gop with all three branches wants to do! Hint: they don't have a concensus on what they want to do, why not just go with Trump and emulate the plan Australia has? I think the rest of the GOP is starting to realize Trump is a paper tiger who ain't gonna bring them votes so they better start listening to what their folks want.
Yeah, the GOP was so willing to work across the aisle with all those open floor debates they had on this latest attempt at legislating.
Absolutely. The Dems live off of their special interests just as much as the Reps do.
They do. Difference is the desire and ability to actually do something for the good of the country instead of having a "me" attitude about everything.
Perhaps it's not as simple? For instance, maybe more emphasis is placed on the financial well being of the nation vs the health of the nation. Without financial wellbeing the latter isn't even a discussion. Perhaps the argument applied could be reversed and still be equally as correct.
I do, but more of what I want is personal accountability and a reduced focus on the reliance of Govt and aid forced by Govt. I'd rather spend an equal amount of money for those in need to fund massive public works projects. Something like the CCC efforts of old that my grandfather was in. In essence, you want a handout, earn it, I'll gladly pay it.
Now you're on to something. I agree with this approach 100%. Help doesn't just have to be a handout.....help is help.