Tubman & Hatcher..

katwest

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Yea Hatcher I can never understand, get a scholarship to an SEC school to play football and stay in trouble the whole time you are there, he's a real good one to be proud of, guess the louisville culture got him, anyway good riddance. I want good kids from good family's that want to follow rules and be good students and athletes. He was a total waste. As for Tubman I really never knew exactly what happened, but there were many who thought he got a raw deal. Makes you wonder if all of the louisville kids that go there don't kid in trouble, or is it swept under the rug.
 

jauk11

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Yea Hatcher I can never understand, get a scholarship to an SEC school to play football and stay in trouble the whole time you are there, he's a real good one to be proud of, guess the louisville culture got him, anyway good riddance. I want good kids from good family's that want to follow rules and be good students and athletes. He was a total waste. As for Tubman I really never knew exactly what happened, but there were many who thought he got a raw deal. Makes you wonder if all of the louisville kids that go there don't kid in trouble, or is it swept under the rug.

No, not all of the kids that go to UL get in trouble, there are always a couple of exceptions to the rule-----like these two that got in trouble and got kicked out of UK, although it is still debatable whether the one should have been kicked out or not. The UL policy is try and prove they got in trouble, 100% positive required, at UK the policy is prove you didn't get in trouble.

Odd how all the funny stuff at UNC, TU, and UL just seems to go away and be forgotten, but did anyone else notice where UL self imposed more penalties in basketball, a couple of bb scholarships they gave up and some recruiting restrictions. Stay tuned.

Hard to believe that someone would screw up the deal that Hatcher had going for him, possible millions, but then look at what Meyer's choir boy from Florida threw away.

"When will they ever learn, wheeeen will they eeeever learn".
 
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ville 77

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No, not all of the kids that go to UL get in trouble, there are always a couple of exceptions to the rule-----like these two that got in trouble and got kicked out of UK, although it is still debatable whether the one should have been kicked out or not. The UL policy is try and prove they got in trouble, 100% positive required, at UK the policy is prove you didn't get in trouble.

Odd how all the funny stuff at UNC, TU, and UL just seems to go away and be forgotten, but did anyone else notice where UL self imposed more penalties in basketball, a couple of bb scholarships they gave up and some recruiting restrictions. Stay tuned.

Hard to believe that someone would screw up the deal that Hatcher had going for him, possible millions, but then look at what Meyer's choir boy from Florida threw away.

You need to stop trying to drag UL into Hatcher's issues. I can promise you that when a UL player gets arrested it is in the news and you know it and no UL player would get any more chances than Hatcher got at UK. He was given
atleast 3 chances in Lexington maybe more.
 

jauk11

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jauk11 said:
No, not all of the kids that go to UL get in trouble, there are always a couple of exceptions to the rule-----like these two that got in trouble and got kicked out of UK, although it is still debatable whether the one should have been kicked out or not. The UL policy is try and prove they got in trouble, 100% positive required, at UK the policy is prove you didn't get in trouble.

Odd how all the funny stuff at UNC, TU, and UL just seems to go away and be forgotten, but did anyone else notice where UL self imposed more penalties in basketball, a couple of bb scholarships they gave up and some recruiting restrictions. Stay tuned.

Hard to believe that someone would screw up the deal that Hatcher had going for him, possible millions, but then look at what Meyer's choir boy from Florida threw away.

Your reply:

You need to stop trying to drag UL into Hatcher's issues. I can promise you that when a UL player gets arrested it is in the news and you know it and no UL player would get any more chances than Hatcher got at UK. He was given
atleast 3 chances in Lexington maybe more.

QUOTE="ville 77, post: 4426677, member: 11830"][/QUOTE]

LOL, you need to realize how EASY it is to make fun of the Motley Crew jurich has assembled at Transfer U, you know, the adulterers and abortionists, I can't believe he got rid of hurtt-----no I forgot, the NCAA made him do that------and then again, TU was forced to turn down a "great" coach (great because of hurtt's NROTY methods) in Strong, LOL, because he "had" to take hurtt's baggage with him.

And no, this crap is way too often swept under the rug and forgotten, although I did notice Pitino and crew did "voluntarily" give up a couple of scholarships and some recruiting rights the other day, in addition to "voluntarily" skipping all the post season play for this years transfers. Who knows, it might even spread over to the football team, man, what a show that could be.

So, in the Hatcher and Quick affair, it was in Quick's apartment, Quick had about TEN times the pot that Hatcher did AND a set of scales, and Hatcher missed a game----and Quick didn't. "Internal discipline", what did they do, take away his franchise to sell to other team members? He did miss a game against BC (did they ever score a TD?) with his SECOND arrest for drug paraphenelia, maybe taking away his franchise didn't work. When Hatcher screwed up again he was immediately thrown off the team.

Just curious, noticed a story about Vaughn (transfer from ND, imagine that, and the article said there were "questions about his character" there) and Long involved in a paintball shooting incident eerily similar to UK's (except they were riding in a jeep, and there were reports the same jeep was involved in an earlier incident), did they get suspended for a game like our BEST player was for a game. Quite possible since the article said they had done "jack ****" so far that year, you have to pick your spots for punishment-----like TU suspending ONE of the EIGHT thugs involved in the TWO kicking while down assaults for the 52-0 opening cliffhanger against Tennessee Martin------but that might have been the third string punt snapper, who knows.
 

jauk11

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LoL. He never even played a down and barely even practiced.


LOL, well named. He redhirted and was on the scout team all year, and had at least one glowing report on his progress which I read, he had gained about 30# IIRC AND had grown two or three inches, and they were very impressed with his wingspan. He was a four star on 247's site, a big deal when he committed late after switching from Penn State.

So it sounds like he was a hard worker that was doing the things he could to improve, what was Hatcher all involved with, and what great breakout did he have his junior year?