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Been Jammin

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Haven't read the comics, but how realistic do the rest of you think the Hilltop community is? Wood walls, protected by only guys with spears. Why wouldn't Negon (who obviously has an arsenal based on what we have seen of his men), burn down the wall, pick off the spearmen with snipers, and take the Hilltop for himself? He would then have the livestock and crops and could put men with weapons on the walls to protect it.

I guess it is possible that they have no weapons because Negon has collected all of them in the region, and they have no fighters because they have been safe behind their walls (like the people of Alexandria). Maybe Negon doesn't have people who can raise crops and care for livestock, so he is willing to let them stay there and supply him with food. But, if that is the case, why take one guy captive and tell another guy to stab Gregory?

And what's up with Gregory being an ******* to Rick's group from the outset? Seems like if he is smart enough to lead the Hilltoppers, and smart enough to send Jesus out to make contact with other groups of people, he would be smart enough to figure out a way to make an alliance with a group of over 50, that has a secure compound, fighters and weapons.

Anyone have a guess as to what the "one more thing", that Maggie wanted from Gregory, was?

With all the focus on Abraham in that episode, I get the impression that the writers are about to kill him off.
 

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Why kill off a group of people giving you half of all their hard work. I just started the comic books so I don't know much about Negon from them but just from the show I take it he is of the old school mafia mentality. He doesn't want to kill everyone off just get his take. With killing Gregory off he would have full control of that community IMO and then could take what ever he wanted. IMO if they ever put up a fight against Negon then he would kill them all off. Until then he is happy taking a major % of their commodities.
 

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Negan and the Survivors are working a protection racquet. They could burn it to the ground or take it over, but that would mean more work.
 
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Negan and the Survivors are working a protection racquet. They could burn it to the ground or take it over, but that would mean more work.

Saviors...not Survivors...right? Or is there another group called the Survivors?
 

Been Jammin

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I think the 1 more thing was the ultrasound

I thought about that, but what good would that do them? You have to be able to interpret the U/S for it to be of use. You have to have a knowledge of normal anatomy and how it appears on a U/S. Even if they just want to look at their baby, they won't know if there is an issue or if he/she is developing properly. It is not like there are not other uses for the machine. I suspect that the doc would use the U/S to determine the severity of Gregory's stab wound. That machine would be of limited use in Alexandria (even though they have someone there with some medical knowledge). It would make more sense to leave it with the guy who was a practicing OB and for them to drive to the Hilltop for periodic U/S examinations.
 

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The Saviors are just lazy scavengers. Others do the work...like someone else said above...mafia style. Not sure if we will see the Kingdom this season or if it'll be the next. I do think we'll see Lucille pretty soon.
 

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The ultrasound picture not the machine. A "normal" thing we take for granted could mean everything to them in a world with no such ability.

I have ultrasound pics of my son from 1 week through birth as it was a high risk pregnancy from the get go. With there being no way for them to ever know if they would have that opportunity again I could see her demanding as part of the deal that they would get an ultrasound just for the memories/keepsake.
 

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I thought about that, but what good would that do them? You have to be able to interpret the U/S for it to be of use. You have to have a knowledge of normal anatomy and how it appears on a U/S. Even if they just want to look at their baby, they won't know if there is an issue or if he/she is developing properly. It is not like there are not other uses for the machine. I suspect that the doc would use the U/S to determine the severity of Gregory's stab wound. That machine would be of limited use in Alexandria (even though they have someone there with some medical knowledge). It would make more sense to leave it with the guy who was a practicing OB and for them to drive to the Hilltop for periodic U/S examinations.

I agree with the other poster on the U/S picture but it could also have been a check up by their doctor and that involved the U/S being done and a picture printed off. I think it was nothing more then that.
 
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I don't think anyone was suggesting that Maggie wanted to "take" the UltraSound, it was that she wanted access to it and the OBGYN at Hillside for a little check up.
 
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The Saviors are just lazy scavengers. Others do the work...like someone else said above...mafia style. Not sure if we will see the Kingdom this season or if it'll be the next. I do think we'll see Lucille pretty soon.

I so hope they include the Kingdom...and especially Shiva.
 

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I so hope they include the Kingdom...and especially Shiva.

Shiva seems unlikely to me, based on your description last week. Seems the only way they could do it is with CGI, and they have stayed away from that to this point.
 

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Shiva seems unlikely to me, based on your description last week. Seems the only way they could do it is with CGI, and they have stayed away from that to this point.

It seems unlikely to me as well....but a boy can hope.
 

Been Jammin

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It seems unlikely to me as well....but a boy can hope.

I'm trying to imagine doing it without CGI, and I just can't think of a way. They could use a trained Tiger, but she/he would have to be really well trained to not hurt a person while also tearing into a dummy and tearing it to pieces. Still, it is a really cool idea, so I can see why you want to see it in the show.
 
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In TWD world, what happens if a baby dies in the womb?

Unless the answer has been revealed in the comics, we have no idea. Supposedly everyone has the disease, but does it cross the placenta? If so, then the baby would turn into a zombie baby. But, it would not have teeth yet, so I suspect it would still need to be born in order to get out of the womb.
 

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Anyone else think Maggie is about to bite the bullet? I think her or Carol are on the chopping block and not Glen or Abraham. Maybe Morgan but IMO Carol being absent from the last two shows tells me she is on the block.
 

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Not Carol. Historically, they always give a character more air time before killing him/her off. My bet is that Abraham won't be around much longer.
 

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Not Carol. Historically, they always give a character more air time before killing him/her off. My bet is that Abraham won't be around much longer.
I think they are fooling us and this is a bait and switch my gut just screams Carol for some reason. I would say Maggie but with spoilers from people who read the comic books I don't think they will go down that path. Plus GRRM isn't behind the writing for this series so I think it won't be Maggie.
 

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Did anyone else watch Talking Dead and barely being able to identify Lauren Cohan as Maggie?

Does she ever look different with her hair up and glamour make-up.

How many brits, aussies and new zealanders is the show going to feature?
 

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I've thought the same thing about Maggie, 'Wood. I think she's far prettier with the hair down and not dolled up. She looks hotter on the show when she's all dirty!