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[Players-first-the-only-way]

"They both could use more time in college to grow their games," one veteran NBA scout told SNY.tv. "Truth be told, a lot of scouts like Ulis and Booker more. [The Harrisons] both have improved but another year will only benefit them."

Draft Express currently projects Andrew to be drafted 46th and Aaron 50th, while NBADraft.net has Andrew being picked 53rd and Aaron not at all. Chad Ford recently said he believes the Twins will either go mid-to-late second round or not at all.

If UK wins #9 this season, the Twins' stock will likely rise with the rest of the team's, but this quote from Zagoria's article bothers me:

One NBA executive said of the twins: "They are unique because they are twins. If they were viewed as individuals without the UK politics, Ulis and Booker would be starting."

Interesting read. Watch Andrew as he drives to the basket, he closes his eyes fearing contact. He almost missed that dunk/lay up last night expecting it. I love the twins and will always be thankful they chose UK. But I feel like something is holding them back. I can't put my finger on it. Thoughts?

 

[capnmonkey]

Maybe they love college ball, and would like to stick around long enough to go 8-0 versus the cards and win a few championships? I agree with you, they are great players.

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

Once Isaiah Briscoe committed, another possible year of the Twins was thrown out the window.

Andrew has a lot of problems at the rim. Flailing, fearing contact and just lack of lift/explosiveness.

Aaron numbers are improving steadily this season. He started off pretty bad, but his efficiencies are starting to recover. By seasons end, i believe he'll become a 2nd round selection.

Andrew has a ton of flaws. I don't expect him to get selected come draft day. Even if he knows that going in, i still think he'll declare.

 

[wcc31]

First of all, I would be thrilled to get the twins back, especially with Booker's stock exploding.

Secondly, do these idiots who keep harping on starting NOT WATCH us play? It doesn't matter who starts. The twins and Ulis/Booker are getting nearly identical minutes. The system is working out fine, so why in the hell would anyone change who starts and who comes in second? Ulis/Booker start every second half.

 

[STL_Cat]

Glad they're on our team. Really glad.

Next question.
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[Joneslab]

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
One NBA executive said of the twins: "They are unique because they are twins. If they were viewed as individuals without the UK politics, Ulis and Booker would be starting."

Well, the run to the championship game last year has a lot to do with it. As does the fact that we're 18-0 and platooning, thus the "who's starting" discussion is sort of dumb.

That comment sounds like something Ned from Hazard would say, not an NBA exec.

 

[capnmonkey]

Going 8-0 versus cards may be tough on second thought, UL going to be awful next year and probably not going to make tournament. May have to settle for going 6-0 with just the scheduled beatdowns. Thoughts OP?

 

[Players-first-the-only-way]

Troll lmao I'm from madisonville Kentucky. Grandparents are from Sebree Kentucky. Both my uncles living Lexington Kentucky. Several cousins in Henderson Kentucky. We bleed blue son we bleed it!! Every time someone comes on here and starts a discussion you idiots behind a keyboard blast him if they don't agree with your line of thinking. I love the twins! Im just trying to figure out why they can't explode at the college level. I also agree that the whole who is starting argument is dumb because we are platooning. Relax man, Im just trying to chat about the twins and what is holding them back.

This post was edited on 1/21 3:42 PM by Players-first-the-only-way

 

[anon1763419335]

whats funny if the twins werent on the team...NBA scouts would probably be crushing ulis and booker since there is no comparison.

ulis struggles in the half court. his size works against him, hard time feeding the post and doesnt get into the lane at all unless its a complete breakdown.

 

[capnmonkey]

OP thoughts on twins secretly wanting to go 8-0 vs cards over four years? I think this is the most likely scenario. Card fan tears are delicious.

 

[Dream Team 13]

They're limited due to a lack of elite athletic ability and not being great shooters. Aaron needs to bring his 3pt% up to 38% (42% the rest of the way) and his overall FG% over 43% (would need to shoot 47% the rest of the way). Andrew needs to have a 4-1 TO/A ratio. All of these are reasonable and will put them closer to the 1st rd.

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

Originally posted by Dream Team 13:
They're limited due to a lack of elite athletic ability and not being great shooters. Aaron needs to bring his 3pt% up to 38% (42% the rest of the way) and his overall FG% over 43% (would need to shoot 47% the rest of the way). Andrew needs to have a 4-1 TO/A ratio. All of these are reasonable and will put them closer to the 1st rd.

Andrew needs to do a ton more. He's shooting a dreadful 33% from the field.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Clutter.

 

[sluggercatfan]

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
Troll lmao I'm from madisonville Kentucky. Grandparents are from Sebree Kentucky. Both my uncles living Lexington Kentucky. Several cousins in Henderson Kentucky. We bleed blue son we bleed it!! Every time someone comes on here and starts a discussion you idiots behind a keyboard blast him if they don't agree with your line of thinking. I love the twins! Im just trying to figure out why they can't explode at the college level. I also agree that the whole who is starting argument is dumb because we are platooning. Relax man, Im just trying to chat about the twins and what is holding them back.

This post was edited on 1/21 3:42 PM by Players-first-the-only-way

For me it's simple...Some guys are vastly over rated coming out of HS...The twins just happened to be two of the ones that were...especially Andrew...I think that Aaron is going to be a Keith Bogans type guy in the league and have a nice career...I just don't see Andrew ever making it...

 

[Players-first-the-only-way]

I hope they don't read that draft stuff. A 19 year old kid will certainly be affected by it. Stay 4 years and win us two titles is fine by me!

 

[capnmonkey]

Bleed blue OP don't you think twins just love destroying cards? UL has kind of fallen apart since we beat them, transfers, captain changes, benching starters. Twins love that shiz. OP pls respond?

 

[Baldcat1]

The twins in my opinion showed a lack of enthusiasm during most of the game but also on the bench. Looked extremely tired.

 

[capnmonkey]

Did they look as tired as Rick does after he loses to the twins for the third time in twelve months? Like, just depressed and defeated? Or was it more in game fatigue?

 

[Burly]

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
"They both could use more time in college to grow their games," one veteran NBA scout told SNY.tv. "Truth be told, a lot of scouts like Ulis and Booker more. [The Harrisons] both have improved but another year will only benefit them."

Draft Express currently projects Andrew to be drafted 46th and Aaron 50th, while NBADraft.net has Andrew being picked 53rd and Aaron not at all. Chad Ford recently said he believes the Twins will either go mid-to-late second round or not at all.

If UK wins #9 this season, the Twins' stock will likely rise with the rest of the team's, but this quote from Zagoria's article bothers me:

One NBA executive said of the twins: "They are unique because they are twins. If they were viewed as individuals without the UK politics, Ulis and Booker would be starting."

Interesting read. Watch Andrew as he drives to the basket, he closes his eyes fearing contact. He almost missed that dunk/lay up last night expecting it. I love the twins and will always be thankful they chose UK. But I feel like something is holding them back. I can't put my finger on it. Thoughts?

Everybody sees it ... Saw the same article on Twitter yesterday..didn't post because of the clutter fans. I got no problem with Twins outside of Andrews bizarre inability to finish contested shots around the rim. Cal & Matt Jones do a great job protecting him & building him up. He will be fine as long as those two support him.

 

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[CHAMPCAT11]

Originally posted by MdWIldcat55:
"Thoughts?"

That this is another in a tedious series of threads started by under-20-post-count trolls in a lame attempt to find some way to cause dissension among Kentucky's fans during an undefeated, and fantastic season.

Thanks for asking.

I agree with this. OP has no posts but claims to know a lot about this board. Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt there's been waaaaay too many posts (most are trolls) about the twins. It's just 'clutter' x 1000. Just leave them alone and let Cal handle who plays and who stays. GBB.

 

[capnmonkey]

OP pls respond re: my thoughts on twins focusing too much on owning cards and causing transfers, benchings, and captain changes? Just trying to start a conversation on this, could explain issues with twins.

 

[UKGrad93]

Here are the possibilities as I see them:

Twins play great the rest of the season, their draft stock rises. They go pro.

Twins play great the rest of the season, their draft stock stays where it is, indicating that they are at the apex of their abilities. Figuring that they can't improve beyond where they are, they go pro.

Twins play great the rest of the season, their draft stock stays where it is, indicating that they are at the apex of their abilities. They stay longer to show more improvement or even finish their degree.

Even if they end up in Europe, they will be better off than most on this board.

I wish them well.

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

Originally posted by UKGrad93:

Here are the possibilities as I see them:

Twins play great the rest of the season, their draft stock rises. They go pro.

Twins play great the rest of the season, their draft stock stays where it is, indicating that they are at the apex of their abilities. Figuring that they can't improve beyond where they are, they go pro.

Twins play great the rest of the season, their draft stock stays where it is, indicating that they are at the apex of their abilities. They stay longer to show more improvement or even finish their degree.

Even if they end up in Europe, they will be better off than most on this board.

I wish them well.

I'll have no problem with the Twin stay next year.

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

1. Glad they are on our team. They are fine players. It should go without saying we don't make a run to the title game last year without either of them. Not too long ago, that would've been enough to ensure their place in big blue lore forever, no matter what happened thereafter. One more sign of a crazy world she a kid is criticized for draft potential as a sophomore.
2. Don't think either has much of a career to look forward in the NBA, not athletic enough.

 

[Seattlekat]

Originally posted by rolaid:

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
"They both could use more time in college to grow their games," one veteran NBA scout told SNY.tv. "Truth be told, a lot of scouts like Ulis and Booker more. [The Harrisons] both have improved but another year will only benefit them."

Draft Express currently projects Andrew to be drafted 46th and Aaron 50th, while NBADraft.net has Andrew being picked 53rd and Aaron not at all. Chad Ford recently said he believes the Twins will either go mid-to-late second round or not at all.

If UK wins #9 this season, the Twins' stock will likely rise with the rest of the team's, but this quote from Zagoria's article bothers me:

One NBA executive said of the twins: "They are unique because they are twins. If they were viewed as individuals without the UK politics, Ulis and Booker would be starting."

Interesting read. Watch Andrew as he drives to the basket, he closes his eyes fearing contact. He almost missed that dunk/lay up last night expecting it. I love the twins and will always be thankful they chose UK. But I feel like something is holding them back. I can't put my finger on it. Thoughts?

Everybody sees it ... Saw the same article on Twitter yesterday..didn't post because of the clutter fans. I got no problem with Twins outside of Andrews bizarre inability to finish contested shots around the rim. Cal & Matt Jones do a great job protecting him & building him up. He will be fine as long as those two support him.

And.........why shouldn't his coach "support" him? Bizarre comment.

Matt Jones supports the Cats, so of course, he will support Andrew.

Been reading your posts for years, do not understand the constant negativity......it doesn't matter who coaches or who plays......you never seem pleased.

 

[wildcat1515]

We don't make it to the Championship game without them. They improved a lot at the end of the season. And no one will ever forget the shots Aaron made to win those games.

 

[G-PIP]

There is no issue with the Twins. The Twins have been great and indispensable for UK. The Twins are great and indispensable for this team. The Twins will be great and indispensable for this team the remainder of the season. At crunch time in grind it out situations against tough opponents the Twins have been and will be the difference between losing and winning. And that's why Calipari and every other decent college coach will/would have the Twins in the game when those moments arise.

Ulis and Booker are great freshmen, but both have benefited from a platoon system (as have the Twins) which tends to minimize some potential exploitable issues. I really doubt that this team would win a championship with Ulis and Booker playing 30+ minutes a game this season. I think the key to this season was the Twins' decision to come back. Ulis and Booker combine with the Twins (and Hawkins) to make a great backcourt, but take away the Twins and we're not going all the way.

 

[Runt#1969]

I'm not remotely thinking about how the NBA works out for the Twins. They're my Fav players on the team, and I would for them to stay here all four years, as they are great college players. The NBA will be in their future one day, I'm sure.

Andrew doesn't get enough credit, imo, for doing the things he's asked to by Coach Cal. Aaron has ice water in his veins, but someday, he's bound to miss a critical shot and it eventually become one of the reasons why we actually lose a close game. I'm just thinking the law of averages catches up to him, because he seems like he's hit every single big game shot for us when we've needed them. I hope he doesn't get crucified when he actually does miss a big shot.

They're the leaders on this team, no doubt in my mind. Ulis and Booker are lucky to have them as teammates and to learn from them while they can.

 

[26MichaelUK]

Great, another thread where people take shots at the twins. They are more unfairly criticized than all the other players on the team combined. Like last night, a poster started a thread about Aaron being benched for possibly talking back to coach Cal when there was no reason at all to think that. They got singled out for not bringing it but nobody brought it last night, yet nothing was said about anyone else. The twins saved our asses last night. I would love to have them back again. But I truly feel bad for the way they are treated by a segment of our fans who love to take shots at them because they worship Ulis and Booker. I promise you those 2 would not look nearly as good if they were getting all the minutes like the twins had to do last year, you know in leading us to the title game.

 

[doneitall]

Originally posted by Smashcat:
Clutter.

CLUTTER, CLUTTER

 

[Gary4UK]

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
"They both could use more time in college to grow their games," one veteran NBA scout told SNY.tv. "Truth be told, a lot of scouts like Ulis and Booker more. [The Harrisons] both have improved but another year will only benefit them."

Draft Express currently projects Andrew to be drafted 46th and Aaron 50th, while NBADraft.net has Andrew being picked 53rd and Aaron not at all. Chad Ford recently said he believes the Twins will either go mid-to-late second round or not at all.

If UK wins #9 this season, the Twins' stock will likely rise with the rest of the team's, but this quote from Zagoria's article bothers me:

One NBA executive said of the twins: "They are unique because they are twins. If they were viewed as individuals without the UK politics, Ulis and Booker would be starting."

Interesting read. Watch Andrew as he drives to the basket, he closes his eyes fearing contact. He almost missed that dunk/lay up last night expecting it. I love the twins and will always be thankful they chose UK. But I feel like something is holding them back. I can't put my finger on it. Thoughts?

Hey, if you want to keep them a while longer, I'm with you......

 

[new era cat]

THANK YOU Andrew and Aaron.

You are a major reason we have a chance to make this a once in a lifetime UK season!!

 

[Players-first-the-only-way]

Fellas I've only recently created a name so I could post. You have to start somewhere right? To knock my number of posts is laughable. At one point or another you all had to start from zero as well. I'm die hard cats fan. I was in Georgia dome when the tornado hit, was there when cousin hit game winner in sec tourney, was in New York when we beat Kansas. I love my cats. Was there when sparks hit the game winner that stayed on the rim for what felt like an hour. Born a kentucky fan and will die one. My grooms came was kentucky themed. My wife's garter was kentucky blue haha.

 

[new era cat]

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
Fellas I've only recently created a name so I could post. You have to start somewhere right? To knock my number of posts is laughable. At one point or another you all had to start from zero as well. I'm die hard cats fan. I was in Georgia dome when the tornado hit, was there when cousin hit game winner in sec tourney, was in New York when we beat Kansas. I love my cats. Was there when sparks hit the game winner that stayed on the rim for what felt like an hour. Born a kentucky fan and will die one. My grooms came was kentucky themed. My wife's garter was kentucky blue haha.

The homers here don't want you start a thread even questioning the players.
The downers don't want you to start a thread ever giving any praise or credit.
The anti-clutterers don't even want you to start a thread , period! Especially if has been talked about already!

Welcome!!

 

[JC CATS]

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
"They both could use more time in college to grow their games," one veteran NBA scout told SNY.tv. "Truth be told, a lot of scouts like Ulis and Booker more. [The Harrisons] both have improved but another year will only benefit them."

Draft Express currently projects Andrew to be drafted 46th and Aaron 50th, while NBADraft.net has Andrew being picked 53rd and Aaron not at all. Chad Ford recently said he believes the Twins will either go mid-to-late second round or not at all.

If UK wins #9 this season, the Twins' stock will likely rise with the rest of the team's, but this quote from Zagoria's article bothers me:

One NBA executive said of the twins: "They are unique because they are twins. If they were viewed as individuals without the UK politics, Ulis and Booker would be starting."

Interesting read. Watch Andrew as he drives to the basket, he closes his eyes fearing contact. He almost missed that dunk/lay up last night expecting it. I love the twins and will always be thankful they chose UK. But I feel like something is holding them back. I can't put my finger on it. Thoughts?

I think they are both better than those clowns you root for, Jones and Rozier

 

[rhstoess]

Biggest knock on the twins is their shot selection/overconfidence. At least in my book. Shooting 35% and 32% from the field is just not very good

 

[capnmonkey]

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
Fellas I've only recently created a name so I could post. You have to start somewhere right? To knock my number of posts is laughable. At one point or another you all had to start from zero as well. I'm die hard cats fan. I was in Georgia dome when the tornado hit, was there when cousin hit game winner in sec tourney, was in New York when we beat Kansas. I love my cats. Was there when sparks hit the game winner that stayed on the rim for what felt like an hour. Born a kentucky fan and will die one. My grooms came was kentucky themed. My wife's garter was kentucky blue haha.

Op pls i am trying to start a conversation with you since we are both dee hard bleed blue but you wont respond... Do you need to know where in KY my family live before we can talk?

 

[Players-first-the-only-way]

New era cat .. I've been reading the board for 10 year or more now. Used to get the catspause magazine out in new mexico. I know how people are on here. Cap monkey for you I'll say this... If they win us a title the whole team can go pro and I'll be happy as can be. I understand a run like this won't happend maybe again in my life time. We are UK and will always be good and relevant. But to have the talent we have had over the calipari years is simply amazing. It's why I sit back and enjoy the ride. Never to high never to low. We are in such a good place as a program and fan base. I hope we go 40-0 but if we don't, I'll be the guy posting saying stay calm enjoy this ride. This is going to be special. Go big blue.

 

[IIIBradIII]

Originally posted by capnmonkey:

Originally posted by Players-first-the-only-way:
Fellas I've only recently created a name so I could post. You have to start somewhere right? To knock my number of posts is laughable. At one point or another you all had to start from zero as well. I'm die hard cats fan. I was in Georgia dome when the tornado hit, was there when cousin hit game winner in sec tourney, was in New York when we beat Kansas. I love my cats. Was there when sparks hit the game winner that stayed on the rim for what felt like an hour. Born a kentucky fan and will die one. My grooms came was kentucky themed. My wife's garter was kentucky blue haha.

Op pls i am trying to start a conversation with you since we are both dee hard bleed blue but you wont respond... Do you need to know where in KY my family live before we can talk?