Two things that amuse me

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Airport

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Or democrats who think that their liberal views aren't rooted in communism or socialism.
 

WVU82_rivals

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Snow Sled Baby

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My two are 1. democrats who would rather obstruct and complain than work to better things.....and 2. Best Virginia
 

DvlDog4WVU

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By EO maybe, not reality. Is it a given his wall gets built?
EOs are a reality, for the next 8 years.

As for the wall? No idea. Probably, if I'm being honest. I'd have said no chance while he was campaigning but at this point, I think he'll do it just because the left says he won't. Either that, or it's a bargaining chip. I'm fine either way to be perfectly honest.
 

Boomboom521

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EOs are a reality, for the next 8 years.

As for the wall? No idea. Probably, if I'm being honest. I'd have said no chance while he was campaigning but at this point, I think he'll do it just because the left says he won't. Either that, or it's a bargaining chip. I'm fine either way to be perfectly honest.
Congress (esp the Senate) has power, he'd be wise to tread lightly...or he'll find that out
 

WVU82_rivals

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He hasn't exactly won congress over.

lol...

https://represent.us/action/5-facts-lobbyists/ ...

The average senator has to pull in more than $14,000 dollars every single day, just to stay in office. One of the easiest ways to raise that kind of cash is to turn to lobbyists, who make big donations and organize swanky fundraisers for elected officials in order to buy influence for their clients.

“You can’t take a congressman to lunch for $25 and buy him a steak. But you can take him to a fundraising lunch and not only buy him that steak, but give him $25,000 extra and call it a fundraiser.” – Former lobbyist Jack Abramoff

Here’s how it works. Let’s say you’re a big bank. You want to buy influence with a senator on the banking committee so he’ll vote your way on an upcoming bill. The easiest way would be to just give $100,000 directly to the senator’s reelection campaign. But alas, that would be illegal — federal law prohibits companies from making direct donations to candidates. So instead, you hire a lobbying firm.

Here’s where things get corrupt. That lobbying firm can legally organize a swanky fundraiser that brings in $100,000 for the senator’s reelection campaign. At the fundraiser, your lobbyist just happens to have a friendly chat about your feelings on banking policy with the senator’s staff.

At the end of the day, the senator is still up $100,000, he still knows exactly where the money came from, and he knows which way to vote if he wants the money to keep flowing. But this time, nobody’s broken any laws!

This strategy works ridiculously well: one recent study found that a company receives $220 in tax savings for every dollar spent lobbying. That’s a 22,000%return on investment. And it works on both sides of the aisle — top lobbying firms raise big money for Republicans and Democrats at the same time.

--- YOU HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHO IS BOUGHT AND SOLD ON A DAILY BASIS IN DC ---

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=K02++
 

bamaEER

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EOs are a reality, for the next 8 years.

As for the wall? No idea. Probably, if I'm being honest. I'd have said no chance while he was campaigning but at this point, I think he'll do it just because the left says he won't. Either that, or it's a bargaining chip. I'm fine either way to be perfectly honest.
And they can quickly be undone in 4 years. No biggie.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Well, you're right. Trying to bull them over isn't the same as trying to win them over. Either way, he lost.
Has he? Just because of the Obamacare thing? Would you wager that's a done deal? I'm watching you guys running around sucking each other's dicks over that like it's the last time it comes up. Do you really think that ACA withstands the next 2 years? Really?

The reality is that plan was likely the closest thing the left will get to something palatable. I might be wrong but I'd bet at the end of the day, you all aren't going to be happy.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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And they can quickly be undone in 4 years. No biggie.
We know. He has no chance at re-election yet companies keep dumping money and jobs into states he wasn't supposed to win.

Remember guys, it's the race to 270, popular vote means **** all.
 

bamaEER

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Has he? Just because of the Obamacare thing? Would you wager that's a done deal? I'm watching you guys running around sucking each other's dicks over that like it's the last time it comes up. Do you really think that ACA withstands the next 2 years? Really?

The reality is that plan was likely the closest thing the left will get to something palatable. I might be wrong but I'd bet at the end of the day, you all aren't going to be happy.
I have no clue how long ACA will last. Doesn't matter. His plan was cheaper, better, covers everyone and then crickets. He had no clue what he got into. This will be a trend.
 

Boomboom521

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Has he? Just because of the Obamacare thing? Would you wager that's a done deal? I'm watching you guys running around sucking each other's dicks over that like it's the last time it comes up. Do you really think that ACA withstands the next 2 years? Really?

The reality is that plan was likely the closest thing the left will get to something palatable. I might be wrong but I'd bet at the end of the day, you all aren't going to be happy.
I like that the Dems didn't help it pass, just so they could blame the GOP for the mess it causes down the road.
 

WVU82_rivals

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https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=H

Hillary was paid $20M by the healthcare lobbyists last year alone...

they thought she would win...

she was BIG TIME PAID FOR !!!

and that is why she would have been fine with keeping obamapuppetcare...


1 Clinton, Hillary (D) $20,490,620
2 Sanders, Bernie (D) Senate $4,833,999
3 Trump, Donald (R) $4,053,283
4 Cruz, Ted (R-TX) Senate $2,906,304
5 Rubio, Marco (R-FL) Senate $2,016,138
6 Carson, Ben (R) $1,851,158
7 Ryan, Paul (R-WI) House $1,406,368
8 Burr, Richard (R-NC) Senate $1,220,734
9 Schumer, Charles E (D-NY) Senate $1,189,294
10 Bush, Jeb (R) $1,178,466
11 Portman, Rob (R-OH) Senate $1,134,390
12 Van Hollen, Chris (D-MD) House $1,062,436
13 Bennet, Michael F (D-CO) Senate $1,058,583
14 Blunt, Roy (R-MO) Senate $1,006,993
15 Wyden, Ron (D-OR) Senate $994,203
16 Toomey, Pat (R-PA) Senate $991,209
17 McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA) House $958,685
18 Murray, Patty (D-WA) Senate $904,053
19 Brady, Kevin (R-TX) House $888,401
20 Tiberi, Patrick J (R-OH) House $841,439
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I like that the Dems didn't help it pass, just so they could blame the GOP for the mess it causes down the road.
Still a Dem mess. ACA was passed without a single GOP vote. Moreover, Trump tried to fix it and the Dems still wouldn't work together, so his fix failed. Dems still own it bubba, until it's repealed or repaired.

Edit: I don't think Trumps plan was any good either. It was ACA light. I didn't want it to pass.
 

dave

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I think it is funny when people think they are smart but everything they write suggests they are a clueless bumpkin reading the talking points from facebook.