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10 point proposal from Iran

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BREAKING: President Trump announces federal investigation into FRAUDULENT LETTERS being sent out in the Iran ceasefire situation from people not involved in the negotiations Trump says the “points” being negotiated are only behind CLOSED DOORS. He says they will be IMMINENTLY EXPOSED. Good! “Numerous Agreements, Lists, and Letters are being sent out by people that have absolutely nothing to do with the U.S.A. / Iran Negotiation, in many cases, they are total Fraudsters, Charlatans, and WORSE. They will be rapidly exposed after our Federal Investigation is completed.” “There is only one group of meaningful “POINTS” that are acceptable to the United States, and we will be discussing them behind closed doors during these Negotiations.” “These are the POINTS that are the basis on which we agreed to a CEASEFIRE. It is something that is reasonable, and can easily be dispensed with. It’s very much like Fake News CNN last night, headlining a “source” that had no power or authority to write a Letter claiming great authority. President DONALD J. TRUMP”
 

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would love to know the terms of the cease fire agreement
Im sure while negotiating they will be locked up and should be . After a agreement it should be public knowledge. Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't that be mandatory they disclose the agreement?
 

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Who could have ever seen this coming?
Bitcoin is neutral money that can be used between enemies


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Not really a selling point that you’re making.

“Use bitcoin, help destroy the US; I’d really like roving gangs to pass me around for the cost of a can of soup to have my backside used as playground when society inevitably collapses”
 

cam_blev

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Not really a selling point that you’re making.

“Use bitcoin, help destroy the US; I’d really like roving gangs to pass me around for the cost of a can of soup to have my backside used as playground when society inevitably collapses”
this is an affect of the fall of the petrodollar caused by the US not a tool to take down the US
currency has to be a fair tool or its useless and we abused that, what do you expect them to use? the US Dollar?
this was always what would happen from the moment the US seized Russian accounts at the start of Ukraine
China and Russia tried to start their own thing but again... why would anyone use a currency they control?

gold was supposed to keep us honest it didn't, then we agreed to protect shipping lanes and provide security and we didn't

tbh being the global reserve currency with the money printer has been a poison seed the entire time maybe we can get back to being a real country after (see: Understanding the Triffin Dilemma: Impact on Global Currencies)

better yet a splinter that has caused a corrupting infection that can start to heal after it gets ripped out, the libs couldn't fund fraud if the money printer had consequences, but then the right doesn't get to abuse it for their goals either
 
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Im sure while negotiating they will be locked up and should be . After a agreement it should be public knowledge. Correct me if im wrong but wouldn't that be mandatory they disclose the agreement?
one would think, but at the same time I see no way Iran would have agreed to prior cease without talk of Israel in Lebanon
so I do wish that was clear also
 

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this is an affect of the fall of the petrodollar caused by the US not a tool to take down the US
currency has to be a fair tool or its useless and we abused that, what do you expect them to use? the US Dollar?
this was always what would happen from the moment the US seized Russian accounts at the start of Ukraine

gold was supposed to keep us honest it didn't, then we agreed to protect shipping lanes and provide security and we didn't

tbh being the global reserve currency with the money printer has been a poison seed the entire time maybe we can get back to being a real country after


better yet a splinter that has caused a corrupting infection that can start to heal after it gets ripped out, the libs couldn't fund fraud if the money printer had consequences, but then the right doesn't get to abuse it for their goals either

Bitcoin isn't real money. Especially when I have to use recognized currency to buy it. It's a pyramid scheme and the sooner you realize that you won't be so heart broken when the US Dollar, Gold, and even silver is still being used. The debate you are having was a good one decades ago. But that shipped has sailed. Me I no interest in Chinese or Russian currency.
 
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BREAKING: President Trump is going to discuss possibly LEAVING NATO with SecGen Mark Rutte today, Karoline Leavitt says Good. They need to step up, or we need to GET OUT! Q: Is the US considering withdrawing? LEAVITT: "It's something the president has discussed. I think it's something the president will be discussing in a couple hours with SecGen Rutte."
 

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this is an affect of the fall of the petrodollar caused by the US not a tool to take down the US
currency has to be a fair tool or its useless and we abused that, what do you expect them to use? the US Dollar?
this was always what would happen from the moment the US seized Russian accounts at the start of Ukraine
China and Russia tried to start their own thing but again... why would anyone use a currency they control?

gold was supposed to keep us honest it didn't, then we agreed to protect shipping lanes and provide security and we didn't

tbh being the global reserve currency with the money printer has been a poison seed the entire time maybe we can get back to being a real country after (see: Understanding the Triffin Dilemma: Impact on Global Currencies)

better yet a splinter that has caused a corrupting infection that can start to heal after it gets ripped out, the libs couldn't fund fraud if the money printer had consequences, but then the right doesn't get to abuse it for their goals either
Words, lots of words. Now extrapolate that to reality of what comes next if it all unravels as a result of the crypto push. Unless you’ve stockpiled and bunkered up, you’re buns are gonna be a dumpster for someone who has.
 

cam_blev

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Words, lots of words. Now extrapolate that to reality of what comes next if it all unravels as a result of the crypto push. Unless you’ve stockpiled and bunkered up, you’re buns are gonna be a dumpster for someone who has.
It's not unraveling as a result of the crypto push, crypto was invented because it was already unraveling.

What was our part of the agreement for the gulf states to trade in USD, the entire basis of the current Petrodollar system?

The monetary supply has damn near doubled over the past 10 years and the US is STILL in debt almost 2x (~1.7x) the total supply of dollars in the world

2016 M2: $12.7T
2026 M2: $22.67T (+78%)
US National Debt: $38.99T


Numbers, lots of numbers.... are those preferred over words?
 

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It's not unraveling as a result of the crypto push, crypto was invented because it was already unraveling.

What was our part of the agreement for the gulf states to trade in USD, the entire basis of the current Petrodollar system?

The monetary supply has damn near doubled over the past 10 years and the US is STILL in debt almost 2x (~1.7x) the total supply of dollars in the world

2016 M2: $12.7T
2026 M2: $22.67T (+78%)
US National Debt: $38.99T


Numbers, lots of numbers.... are those preferred over words?

Petro has value and will until we learn how to power the world on unicorn farts. CCP green energy stuff obviously isn't getting it done. If it did they would using it predominantly instead of getting butthurt over losing control over Venezuela oil and possibly losing their Iranian oil too. They wanted it on the cheap instead of paying what everyone else would.
 

Gunny46

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It's not unraveling as a result of the crypto push, crypto was invented because it was already unraveling.

What was our part of the agreement for the gulf states to trade in USD, the entire basis of the current Petrodollar system?

The monetary supply has damn near doubled over the past 10 years and the US is STILL in debt almost 2x (~1.7x) the total supply of dollars in the world

2016 M2: $12.7T
2026 M2: $22.67T (+78%)
US National Debt: $38.99T


Numbers, lots of numbers.... are those preferred over words?

Fraud...lots of fraud.
 

cam_blev

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Petro has value and will until we learn how to power the world on unicorn farts. CCP green energy stuff obviously isn't getting it done. If it did they would using it predominantly instead of getting butthurt over losing control over Venezuela oil and possibly losing their Iranian oil too. They wanted it on the cheap instead of paying what everyone else would.
sir, do you know what the "petrodollar" is? it's essentially the 1974 understanding between the us and saudi that we'd protect them and the shipping lanes if they let us keep bases and priced their oil in usd (plus recycled the dollars back into our treasuries).

if trump really is playing 5d chess (and i think that is totally possible here!) he knows the dollar is losing its spot as global reserve currency and these are all strategic moves to shift our economic and political focus from the middle east and start making better allies of our close neighbors in central and south america
 

cam_blev

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He talking about BRICS is an influential group of major emerging economies, originally comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

Why would you root for these countries.
in what way am I rooting for them?
The point is I am not crazy for saying that USD is falling from the position of the money that the whole world uses.
This is Marco Rubio saying "there will be so many countries transacting in currencies other than the Dollar" that was not the case in the very recent past.
 

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sir, do you know what the "petrodollar" is? it's essentially the 1974 understanding between the us and saudi that we'd protect them and the shipping lanes if they let us keep bases and priced their oil in usd (plus recycled the dollars back into our treasuries).

if trump really is playing 5d chess (and i think that is totally possible here!) he knows the dollar is losing its spot as global reserve currency and these are all strategic moves to shift our economic and political focus from the middle east and start making better allies of our close neighbors in central and south america

It's all about China. For the 100th time if you are an American you don't want the US Dollar or anything it's backed by to collapse.


in what way am I rooting for them?
The point is I am not crazy for saying that USD is falling from the position of the money that the whole world uses.
This is Marco Rubio saying "there will be so many countries transacting in currencies other than the Dollar" that was not the case in the very recent past.

He was talking about the Currency that the Brics Nations were setting up. China is leading that. Rooting for that alliance to breakup would be wise.
 

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Lebanon's Government who isn't located in Iran is going to have talks on how to deal with Hezbollah. Hopefully they can work together on how to deal with Iran's proxy.


 

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Israel will begin negotiations with Lebanon “as soon as possible,” says Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a statement.

“In light of Lebanon’s repeated appeals to open direct negotiations with Israel,” says Netanyahu, “I instructed the cabinet yesterday to begin direct negotiations with Lebanon as soon as possible.”

The talks “will focus on disarming Hezbollah and establishing peaceful relations between Israel and Lebanon.”