I really dont know. They used to send out those forms tellibg you what it would be and I am going by memory. I could be way off. After a quick google search it says the avg is 2800 a month. I assume I will be around there. I guess a huge miscalculation indeed.
Manufacturing is way more automated than it was 20 years ago. 20 years ago manufacturing was way more automated than it was 40 years ago. We aren't special.
The SSA website has a calculator for those truly interested, but I wouldn't pay much attention to it unless you're 55ish.
I think the bigger problen than automated manufacturing is the automation of many things that are currently not automated at all. Driving, customer service etc.
I am not that concerned. I obviously havent put much thought into it since I thought is was about half of average.
Meh. I still don't see how our economy doesn't change withe the technological changes, like it always has. Will people be left behind? Sure. Just like when NAFTA was enacted and made us, as a whole, better. Or trade with China. Or all prior technological advances. It really and truly sucks for people that get displaced and many do not have resources to get retrained. That is why we have and need strong safety nets. UBI? Seems like a massive overreach, imo.
Yeah you were on the old bat that never worked drawing half her husband's check plan.
imp:UBI probably is a huge overreach. Yang still makes a good case for it. It's an imaginative solution to concerns on the horizon. Are there others? I'm sure there are, but I'm not hearing many right now. Mostly it's about retraining, and Yang pointed out that we have been bad about that historically. 55 year olds automated out of jobs aren't excited about it, and employers aren't excited to hire them over younger, healthier people.
What is wrong with the systems we have in place now? Paying everyone x amount of dollars instead of helping the people in need seems ludicrous. Societal changes would help more than extreme fiscal changes, imo. That's just in theory, to me. In practice, UBI would be a nightmare for many of the reasons you have already posted ITT.
I just used it, and it came back with a recommendation that I should do one of two things: Work until I'm 85, or drop dead
I think the only waybit really works is if it replaces everything need based. No welfare, food stamps, or unemployment. That gets rid of that overhead. Then I think you can make a better argument to privatize social security, dropping even more overhead. That pays for a lot good chunk of UBI, but then it forces people to create their own safety nets.
that's right, when looking at the SS numbers, but TRUMP is providing a HUGE assist when it comes to the market/401K, and tax breaks.
