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What's the latest on UFOs? Any good recent documentaries that anyone would recommend that aren't conspiracy theory type stuff?
 
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What's the latest on UFOs? Any good recent documentaries that anyone would recommend that aren't conspiracy theory type stuff? If UFOs turn out to be real, how would organized religion deal with that?
Of course UFO's are real. Where do you think Bigfoot, Mothman and the Kentucky mountain lions came from?
 

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Nov 13th new UAP hearing, that'll be the next big day. Same deal as the big one last year, with different people this time. Outside of that, the Langley AFB stuff (unidentified drone incursions, also caught on vid by civilians) is pretty eyebrow-raising and gaining attention.
 

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If you have to question if UFO's are real, you aren't paying attention. There is enough video evidence, even from our government, that's in inarguable that they exist

I don't anything else for certain. But I do know they absolutely exist.

Plenty of good stuff out there OP. Let me talk to someone and get you some good ones. Be back later.
 

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What's the latest on UFOs? Any good recent documentaries that anyone would recommend that aren't conspiracy theory type stuff? If UFOs turn out to be real, how would organized religion deal with that?
Australia has done a lot. Ross Coulthart documentaries.

James Fox is about the best I have found.

 
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Why are we special enough to be visited? Unless they see us like a wildlife reserve. If you have the ability to travel the universe in infinite directions kinda lame a planet in basic solar system in a random galaxy is the best thing they've found to visit all the time.

Also, I think they'd have the ability to be cloaked or invisible.

Thing about all these ufo sightings is the info is always released by the navy. Meaning, they may not know what it is, but the air force might...seems like they never speak up about it.
 

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Why are we special enough to be visited? Unless they see us like a wildlife reserve. If you have the ability to travel the universe in infinite directions kinda lame a planet in basic solar system in a random galaxy is the best thing they've found to visit all the time.

Also, I think they'd have the ability to be cloaked or invisible.

Thing about all these ufo sightings is the info is always released by the navy. Meaning, they may not know what it is, but the air force might...seems like they never speak up about it.
Future humans, maybe the Universe isn't overly populated, maybe they are here already?
 

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What's the latest on UFOs? Any good recent documentaries that anyone would recommend that aren't conspiracy theory type stuff? If UFOs turn out to be real, how would organized religion deal with that?
What is curious to me is that there simply are no sharp and detailed cell phone videos taken of UFO sightings.
The lack of quality video undermines credibility.
 
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Unidentified? Yes!

Extraterrestrial? No.

We’re in one of at least 200 billion galaxies. A galaxy that is 100,000 light years across. We’re on a small planet circling an average star in the middle of no where. No reason whatsoever to think some other civilization from outside our solar system is visiting and/or monitoring us.
 
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we go to mars to look at rocks. i dont think its a reach that an alien civilization, even an advanced one, would come to sight see here, butt rape some trailer park drunks, and speed off into the ether afterward. i have no idea if they are alien but the "we suck, why would they come here" angle doesn't persuade me at all. Resources, curiosity, time travel, and more are fairly good reasons to go visit a less advanced civilization. i doubt they are here for the music.
 

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Elizondo and Grush are as legit as they come. The information they have released to the public has at least forced the government to admit that UFOs/UAPs are real and that we don't know what they are.
I've started watching the series. Pretty trippy for sure. The documentary isn't produced all that well, keeps going over the same thing time and again. But within the first hour it was clear that this isn't some hoax.
 
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In early October, a well respected reporter revealed the name of the Top Secret Program apparently described by David Grusch.

Grusch, honoring his security clearance at the time, did not reveal the name in public or his House testimony, but presumably did in his Top Secret testimony before the Group of Eight in the Senate (who got to hear all he knows, in very secure fashion).


Oddly, although no source, including Grusch, uttered the name, there was a 2023 spike Google searches for the name “Immaculate Constellation,” in the area of Dayton, Ohio, the home of Wright-Pat.

Apparently, those involved in the program heard some part of Grusch’s revelations, assumed he had named the program publicly, and Googled it to see what he had said. Sort of an accidental and Bassackwards confirmation of the program’s existence.
 

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Elizondo and Grush are as legit as they come. The information they have released to the public has at least forced the government to admit that UFOs/UAPs are real and that we don't know what they are.

Pushing a tad harder, it looks likelier that some do know what these things are.

I’ve followed these UFO/UAP stories since the age of ten: spending my allowance on UFO books in the early 70’s, and forward from those days.

The general description Grusch has publicly revealed tracks very, very closely with the controversial revelations of Bob Lazar in the late 80’s/early 90’s, and Colonel Phillip Corso a decade later: multiple crash recoveries and non-human craft possessed by the US in the South West, and back-engineering of advanced technology.

Some of the paperback books I read 50 years ago have proved pretty accurate. In the 70’s I read of a saucer-like-craft shooting down an unarmed American ICBM in 1964. In 2001, a former military gent came forward with the details of his filming of the exact same instance, a gent who offered to testify before Congress, under oath.

There was another “extreme” story of the killing of a non-human biologic having exited a craft on a US air base. The unattributed story 40 years ago reported the entity ran from air-base security, climbed a security fence, and was killed with one shot of an AR-15.

Decades later, an officer of the air base, and the shooter who killed the entity both publicly came forward, offering sworn testimony.

The revelations the last 18 months are juuuust short of the President coming out and admitting the reality most Americans
have assumed for decades.

The question: if you were President, would you come out and admit the whole truth??

The first question would be “can we stop them, if we have to?”

How does a President answer that question???!?!

Maybe we have had enough public disclosure for our own good?

What we now know allows the curious folk substantial confirmation of the truth, while allowing folks more easily spooked to fall back on the old irrelevant mantra of “no reproducible scientific proof,” and other reassuring means of denial.

Just watch this thread: someone will come along with the standard means of re-assurance/denial, and this might just be their personal means of maintenance of balance/sanity. I do not disparage them for their self-protection, anymore than I ridiculed fellow third-graders for a continuing belief in Santa Clause: some delusions and beliefs actually help some folks live their day-to-day lives.

And maybe, just maybe, we need to keep the non-human tech to ourselves and not allow the ChiComs and other nefarious bastards any access, or even certain acknowledgment of its existence.

Afterall, some of Grusch’s revelations indicate a sentient decision to gift the USA with at least one fully intact craft discovered in a desert setting, apparently abandoned for no reason. Sounds like somebody wants a Constitutional Republic to possess advanced tech. Speculation of crash retrieval programs by Russians and Chinese is simply speculation . . . . There has been little written of crashes or recoveries, other than the 1933 crash in Italy, and we have that one thanks to the Vatican (again, according to David Grusch’s public remarks).

Altogether an interesting subject. At 61 years of age, though, I have sort of “crossed over” to the side of the decades old official deniers: I’m not sure FULL disclosure of non-human, near-omnipotent technology would broadly benefit human kind.
 

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Pushing a tad harder, it looks likelier that some do know what these things are.
Yea I was thinking that also, after 70 years we've gone from "they don't exist" to "we don't know what they are" I guess you could say this is incremental disclosure.;)
I’ve followed these UFO/UAP stories since the age of ten: spending my allowance on UFO books in the early 70’s, and forward from those days.
Me too. I had books written by Edward Ruppelt and Donald Keyhoe back in the 50s as a child that got me started. Both highly credible military officers that had access to the info.
The general description Grusch has publicly revealed tracks very, very closely with the controversial revelations of Bob Lazar in the late 80’s/early 90’s, and Colonel Phillip Corso a decade later
Yea my first thought after I listened to Rush Colhart's interview with David Grush was that maybe now Bob Lazar can be vindicated from all the debunkers assertions. His accounts match up pretty closely to what Grush is saying is going on right now.

I still miss Stanton Friedman, nobody could slice up and humiliate a debunker better than Stan.🤣
 

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His accounts match up pretty closely to what Grush is saying is going on right now.

Through the decades, with chance encounters of current or former military, I have frequently been able to discreetly ask questions.

Roughly half of military personnel I have met have had personal experiences, or have heard credible rumors from other military sources.

Most recently, a friend and colleague who retired a Full Bird, and who actually taught at West Point, (though a ROTC grad) kind of laughed when I put him onto David Grusch’s interviews. All he said was there were multiple subterranean levels at Wright-Pat, and the difficulty in the research was re-creation of exotic metals.

Frankly, this has proven the worst kept secret ever. At least 80 percent of the nameless, faceless, unaccredited rumors breaking in the 70’s and 80’s have proved true.

But seriously, do we want FULL disclosure?? And if we get it, will three year olds think there is an alien under his/her bed instead of a monster?
 

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The-Hack should give us some details on what people were seeing in his home county back in the mid-70s. There were some really interesting encounters there & that's not counting the supposed abduction of three Casey County women in early 1976.
 

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I saw a group of drones flying in a triangle formation at night that looked like a UFO. They hovered in the clouds for 10 minutes. It was a training exercise from a nearby base. There has been some strange sightings, but the bad footage/vagueness/"wait til this comes out" is frustrating. It could be craft from our future observing us; who knows.
 
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The-Hack should give us some details on what people were seeing in his home county back in the mid-70s. There were some really interesting encounters there & that's not counting the supposed abduction of three Casey County women in early 1976.

I’ve spoken with several who grew up/lived on Hwy. 78, the path from Stanford to Hustonville (and by extension, Liberty).

They have all confirmed years of strange things between 1971 and 1976.

One lady, a well-respected retired professional, now, with two immediate family members having served in County government, bluntly told me in 1995 that her family had witnessed “alien craft hovering in our backyard for 5 years.” I had asked her if she had seen “lights in the sky, like stars,” and she volunteered her backyard comment forcefully, and emotionally.

Her brother told that he frequently was stunned by their close presence in farm fields: objects twenty feet in the air, roughly the size of beach balls, which seemed to realize they were being seen, and then buzzed and traveled away down a valley a half-mile away, but still visible. They covered the half-mile almost instantly.

Frankly, locally among farm folk, these are generally discussed as simply being real. And when I say “farm folk,” these people are social and political leaders, most with a college degree, and generally from affluent, well-respected families.
 

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Around 20 years ago I was outside my home in Bullitt County around 2am and saw a triangular shaped something with lights bordering it slowly making it's way across the sky. No sound at all. I just stared at it as it faded off. I was left dumbfounded but I'm of the mind that UFO sightings are experimental aircraft and not little green men from another planet/galaxy. But what do I know.
 
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I’ve spoken with several who grew up/lived on Hwy. 78, the path from Stanford to Hustonville (and by extension, Liberty).

They have all confirmed years of strange things between 1971 and 1976.

One lady, a well-respected retired professional, now, with two immediate family members having served in County government, bluntly told me in 1995 that her family had witnessed “alien craft hovering in our backyard for 5 years.” I had asked her if she had seen “lights in the sky, like stars,” and she volunteered her backyard comment forcefully, and emotionally.

Her brother told that he frequently was stunned by their close presence in farm fields: objects twenty feet in the air, roughly the size of beach balls, which seemed to realize they were being seen, and then buzzed and traveled away down a valley a half-mile away, but still visible. They covered the half-mile almost instantly.

Frankly, locally among farm folk, these are generally discussed as simply being real. And when I say “farm folk,” these people are social and political leaders, most with a college degree, and generally from affluent, well-respected families.
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Thanks, T-H. I lived in a neighboring county & remember a guy, who I think lived on Hwy 150, sighting a rectangular object drifting across US Hwy 27 just north of Stanford. I managed to track the story down through the Interior Journal archives & the whole event was just incredible. IIRC, this occurred in early-mid November of 1975.
 

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Thanks, T-H. I lived in a neighboring county & remember a guy, who I think lived on Hwy 150, sighting a rectangular object drifting across US Hwy 27 just north of Stanford. I managed to track the story down through the Interior Journal archives & the whole event was just incredible. IIRC, this occurred in early-mid November of 1975.

Yes, along with Highway 78, there was a 1975 spat that occurred right about where the “new” Walmart is, on US 27, a mile North of downtown. Multiple witnesses contributed to the accounts quoted in the paper of strange lights and blob like orbs that followed vehicles.

Oddly, for all the activity in the West end of the County, to my knowledge, nothing occurred in the East End. The 50 year running joke has been they were too frightened to f@$k with Crab Orchard!!
 

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Around 20 years ago I was outside my home in Bullitt County around 2am and saw a triangular shaped something with lights bordering it slowly making it's way across the sky. No sound at all. I just stared at it as it faded off. I was left dumbfounded but I'm of the mind that UFO sightings are experimental aircraft and not little green men from another planet/galaxy. But what do I know.
I saw a triangular object in the fall of 2021. It started out as a very large glowing object and by the time I got over my head it was a silent triangle.
 

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Yes, along with Highway 78, there was a 1975 spat that occurred right about where the “new” Walmart is, on US 27, a mile North of downtown. Multiple witnesses contributed to the accounts quoted in the paper of strange lights and blob like orbs that followed vehicles.

Oddly, for all the activity in the West end of the County, to my knowledge, nothing occurred in the East End. The 50 year running joke has been they were too frightened to f@$k with Crab Orchard!!
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Interestingly, there was a Strategic Air Command low level training route (IR-075) that terminated along Hwy 27 N during that time period (From around 1964 until 1994). There was also a radar bomb scoring site at the Bluegrass Army Depot near Richmond that tried to track the bombers on attack runs along the route, while the bomber's electronic warfare officer tried jamming the radar site. I'm not saying that people misidentified low level B-52s & FB-111As as UFOs (the flashing lights & noise would make it obvious those were aircraft), but somebody or something might have taken notice of some very high tech electronic emissions in a very rural setting. Just idle speculation by me, so take it for what it's worth.

Yes, I always tried to steer clear of Crab Orchard!
 
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In our last blog, we looked at a case involving three women in Kentucky who experienced actinic conjunctivitis after a UFO encounter. Since the blog was about multiple UFO-related conjunctivitis cases, we focused on that aspect of the encounter, but there was more to their story – a lot more.

According to the October 1976 APRO Bulletin (date from February 12, 1976 Kentucky Casey County Press) on January 6, 1976, Louise Smith, Mona Stafford, and Elaine Thomas were all sitting in the front seat of Smith’s 1967 Chevy, which she had bought the day before. Smith was driving and they were on their way back to Liberty,
 

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I'm not saying that people misidentified low level B-52s & FB-111As as UFOs (the flashing lights & noise would make it obvious those were aircraft), but somebody or something might have taken notice of some very high tech electronic emissions in a very rural setting. Just idle speculation by me, so take it for what it's worth.

Yes, I always tried to steer clear of Crab Orchard!

The B-52 connection has always intrigued me. I’m not military, but B-52’s coming over for decades, flying southwest to Northeast over our farm at, maybe, 500 feet, made an impression.

I wondered decades ago if there was non-human intelligence interested in the daily flights, or if the government messed with some advanced tech along that path, just to see the psychological effect.

But the stuff I’ve heard described would put advanced drone technology to shame.

One interesting quote from the mature lady who opened up to me: she said at “around 10:00 pm, the family on the West end of the ridge would call, and say ‘they’re back.’”

There were only four houses in the seventies in the real “hotspot,” on Ky. Hwy. 78. This one-mile stretch freakishly dives down low, adjacent to a Creek that runs parallel to the highway for half the mile length. The elevation is so low, you can only see, perhaps, 100/200 yards to parallel hill crests left and right: essentially the perfect area for low-level observations or encounters without being visible to many homes.
 

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I’ve spoken with several who grew up/lived on Hwy. 78, the path from Stanford to Hustonville (and by extension, Liberty).

They have all confirmed years of strange things between 1971 and 1976.

One lady, a well-respected retired professional, now, with two immediate family members having served in County government, bluntly told me in 1995 that her family had witnessed “alien craft hovering in our backyard for 5 years.” I had asked her if she had seen “lights in the sky, like stars,” and she volunteered her backyard comment forcefully, and emotionally.

Her brother told that he frequently was stunned by their close presence in farm fields: objects twenty feet in the air, roughly the size of beach balls, which seemed to realize they were being seen, and then buzzed and traveled away down a valley a half-mile away, but still visible. They covered the half-mile almost instantly.

Frankly, locally among farm folk, these are generally discussed as simply being real. And when I say “farm folk,” these people are social and political leaders, most with a college degree, and generally from affluent, well-respected families.
Last night after looking through this thread I started reading about that story. What can one say except scary af. I have family in Liberty and had heard this story growing up but actually reading the details is crazy.
 
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Last night after looking through this thread I started reading about that story. What can one say except scary af. I have family in Liberty and had heard this story growing up but actually reading the details is crazy.

Folks have forgotten just how high profile this event was. One of the ladies appeared on a national, daytime talk show. I think it was the “Mike Douglas Show,” in ‘76 or ‘77.

And this abduction was unique, in that there were corroborating witnesses who saw an odd craft in the vicinity that night.
 

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Folks have forgotten just how high profile this event was. One of the ladies appeared on a national, daytime talk show. I think it was the “Mike Douglas Show,” in ‘76 or ‘77.

And this abduction was unique, in that there were corroborating witnesses who saw an odd craft in the vicinity that night.
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I also remember seeing one of those women on Tom Snyder's Tomorrow show.
 
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Last night I had a dream that I was out working with the people that I used to worked with, and about 100 fighter jets came over escorting a giant spaceship. It wasn't very aerodynamic. It looked like a flying battleship sort of. I turned to a co-worker and said so you still don't believe in UFOs? Then I woke up.
 
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