UFOs
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Here is a typical announcement/coverage by a governmental agency:
It includes this statement:
“Still, the report said there's no evidence, so far, to substantiate life from another planet being involved in these sightings.”
Well, what constitutes such evidence? Would we expect UAP’s to have a painted sign on their side: “This is Zenon from the Andromeda Galaxy: If this Anamoly is a Rockin’, Don’t Come Knockin?”
It includes this statement:
“Still, the report said there's no evidence, so far, to substantiate life from another planet being involved in these sightings.”
Well, what constitutes such evidence? Would we expect UAP’s to have a painted sign on their side: “This is Zenon from the Andromeda Galaxy: If this Anamoly is a Rockin’, Don’t Come Knockin?”
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"Enter Stanton Friedman, a former itinerant nuclear physicist now living in New Brunswick, Canada, who has long been, in his words, “a clear-cut, unambiguous UFOlogist.” In 1978, while waiting in a Baton Rouge, La., television station for an interview, Friedman was told that Jesse Marcel, long retired from the Air Force and living nearby, had once handled the wreckage of a UFO. After quizzing Marcel, who still believed the debris he retrieved"
In a nut shell the "they" all the way up to the President, are driven by fear.
Trump has perfected a perfect “dodge.” Every time he’s asked, he responds “UFO’s are just not my thing. I have friends really into UFO’s, but it’s just not my thing.”
An artful dodge that sounds as though he has never asked about the subject or been informed, and an open indication he does not want to be informed.
This allows what Bill Clinton described as the “government within the government” to skate along another decade or two, on the same thin line of lies, half-truths and intimidation of those who want to openly reveal the truth.
The “fear” I think is based upon simple political survival. Also, given the remarkable revelations of the last two years, we may have a running agreement with non-human intelligence to conceal their reality.
About six years ago I was in my backyard at about 2am when I saw a peculiar looking thing in the sky. It was triangular and had lights on all three sides, and was sitting motionless in the sky. At first I just assumed it was the ISS or possibly a satellite of some sort. It sat there for probably 15 minutes or so when, quite suddenly, it TOOK OFF. I mean TOOK OFF, like it was there one second and in the next second it was miles and miles away, and again, it just sat there.
The incredible speed told me it was not of this Earth, plus the fact that, to the best of my knowledge we humans do not have anything like that that can just sit motionless with no visible means of propulsion. If I had any doubts about whether we were alone in the cosmos, they were vanquished that night. Just an incredible thing to actually witness.
The incredible speed told me it was not of this Earth, plus the fact that, to the best of my knowledge we humans do not have anything like that that can just sit motionless with no visible means of propulsion. If I had any doubts about whether we were alone in the cosmos, they were vanquished that night. Just an incredible thing to actually witness.
Stan was the man. He spent a good part of his life investigating UFOs most notably on the Roswell crash recovery and the Majestic 12 files, and provided proof positive through first hand eye witness accounts of a government cover up.
Pentagon fails their audit. Can’t account for their $842B budget. Gonna want funding for UFO studies. Claim to have proof and their source is “Trust me bro”. Convenient.
There have been many sightings of triangular craft.
Including Governor Symington of Arizona.
The whole subject is strange.
As to the notion that there have been crashes, anything that can be built can fail.
And we must begin to acknowledge that whatever these things are, they are actually quite common. Naval and Air Force officers have recently confirmed “daily” interaction over the Atlantic, where our aircraft have a safe zone for maneuvers.
So if there have been 20 crashes/retrievals, that represents a tiny portion of the unexplained sightings.
Damn.
Get a load of this 11 page document released by a Congress-woman from South Carolina (Mace).
If you would prefer a simplified press accounting of the revelations:
Get a load of this 11 page document released by a Congress-woman from South Carolina (Mace).
If you would prefer a simplified press accounting of the revelations:
More whistleblowers and released reports. Let’s get on with it and roll out actual physical evidence for everyone to see.
Yep.
There is a battle going on between folks who (for decades) have withheld information from Congress. This implicates likely every President since Roosevelt, and likely hundreds or thousands of former and current military, security agency and civilian contractors.
Likely the only way this stuff can be revealed, responsibly, is by putting a national “reconciliation” plan together, such as South Africa did, post-apartheid.
According to David Grusch, and other witnesses, there have been some deaths (murders) and other nefarious acts to enforce secrecy. So, some folks will go to great lengths to continue the ********, to avoid embarrassment, prosecution, etc.
Congress might consider some procedure to allow folks to admit their wrongdoing in a timely fashion, and then receive immunity for their crimes. And maybe look at a special fund to recompense individuals who were injured or defamed and families of any who were permanently silenced.
Frankly, the long-simmering belief of government duplicity and deceit, I believe, came mostly from this long-running and poorly concealed effort to deny UAP/NHI.
At an early age, maybe 12 years, I saw video of military and other official “deniers,” and felt strongly that they were lying, and doing a pretty poor job of it.
Did it extend to assassination of citizens, witnesses, politicians (or even Kennedy??).
I don’t know, but maybe we just need to expose it all (short of benefitting adversaries) and all promise “to go forth, and sin no more.”
Maybe Trump can be the one to rip the bandaid off… though if this is all legit, he already had one term in office to do so and nothing materialized. So who knows.
He has deflected the question by repeatedly saying “UFO’s are not my thing. I have friends really into the subject, but it’s just not my thing.”
Clinton, when cornered by a curious reporter (Leslie Stahl) told her his access was limited “by the government within the government.”
I’m not a Trumpster, but if he can pull the lid off this true “swamp,” I’ll wear a MAGA hat ‘till my death. This has been a long-running train of deception involving world governments and the Vatican that has essentially ruined any faith in government, even government crafted as a “Republic.”
I’m sick of the bullsh!t.
Yeah but come on. That’s my point. They have mastered interstellar travel but keep crashing?
That’s not reasonable.
I’m not sure they are interstellar. The reason these are now called “non-human intelligence” instead of alien is because many believe this is an earth-bound phenomena, or inter-dimensional.
In any case, if it can be built, it can fail. Some may be more advanced, but that does not necessarily render them omniscient or omnipotent.
We are thousands of years more advanced than those who built the pyramids, but I’d bet more folks have been killed in airplane crashes than were in chariot crashes.
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Have seen the triangle UAP twice myself. Once it was super low and super slow. The last time that sucker was MOVING
There's a spiritual aspect to all this..
TR-3B Anti-Gravity Spacecrafts
It doesn't exist officially. It uses highly pressured mercury accelerated by nuclear energy to produce a plasma that creates a field of anti-gravity around the ship. See more.
Yes the last flyover they did I thought it was military for sure. First time was in like 2014 and I didn't know what the heck.TR-3B Anti-Gravity Spacecrafts
It doesn't exist officially. It uses highly pressured mercury accelerated by nuclear energy to produce a plasma that creates a field of anti-gravity around the ship. See more.www.military.com
If i see any cigar shaped ones then I might wonder lol. They talk about cigar shaped craft with friendly visitors in books from waaaay back. There are lots of interesting stories in that pdf I shared. Including human like pilots who dressed in hoods but almost Renaissance festivalish from the neck down. They could become translucent at will and were telepathic and heavy on the gestures.
They visited this man in his work shop for weeks, dissapearing every time a customer would start into the shop. Eventually they asked if he wanted to go somewhere with them and he said as long as i dont leave this shop. They took him off planet to planet Hell and introduced him to their boss.. he informed the man he had a very important job for him.. dude says look I am hungry and need rest. Claimed it was like 110 degrees all day by night you could see a flaming sea. The "boss" served him a biscuit that was so hard all he could do was scrape some flour off with his teeth..
The next day the boss shows him the job
He takes him to the Sea where the shores were lined with rows and rows of objects stacked 3 high.. once he got closer he noticed that they were coffins. The boss said here's what I want you to do and showed him: he lifted a coffin and flipped it into the sea, the strange thing was the dead came back alive the moment they hit the sea and started burning and screaming. The dude said no I'm not doing that.. the boss kept him another night but he spotted the men who brought him there and said take me home..
They got home and 4 hours had passed in the man's shop but he said it took 4 days of traveling plus the 2 nights he had to spend. They asked him how did you like that? Telepathically of course NOT TOO DAMN MUCH AND YOU KNOW IT he said and the men burst with expressions that suggested they thought the whole thing hilarious then said We thought you might not enjoy it..
Happened in the 30s but he finally wrote about it in '52. He illustrates everything but says the illustrations didn't do the whole thing any justice.
He was a hell of a storyteller if nothing else! Personally I believed him just a gut feeling kinda thing..but maybe I am biased because I want to believe in supernatural craziness. They say there is always an uptick in ufo sightings in areas with heavy occult activity (that and military bases lol)
Interesting I thought!
Wow. Pretty crazy story!
If they ask me if I want to take a trip, I’m going to tell them “sorry, friends, I have a lot of **** to take care of on earth!”
Then I’ll give them a couple of cell phone numbers of folks I would want to see “take a little trip.”
I seriously doubt the story.
Some of the more garish stories from the 50’s, of intelligent life coming from Mars and Venus, have essentially been disproved by our visits to those planets.
What if we didn't really visit those planets? What if it's interdimensional?
Taken with a grain of salt just don't close my mind completely to it.. fantastic storytelling if fiction lol.
If anything I think their could be NHE living underground but not from space that's my thoughts. Been wrong lots though. They could both exist
You know all those big blue marble iPhone background pics are cgi right? Not saying all space is fake but what we are shown and told is
Well, I think this is an example of the problems caused by complete denial of NHI and UAP activity for 8 decades: evidence of some lying leads to belief of 100 percent lying. And if you think everything you have heard or read is a lie, then you approach a paralysis of moral and factual relativism.
I have far too much evidence of the space flights by the Soviets to Venus and the US to Mars to doubt them. Yes, the government has done a very poor job of lying about the existence of UAPs, their cover stories being laughable to me by the age of 12 (Swamp gas, my ***). But their sh!tty efforts to cover up UAP evidence further convinces me of the reality of our space flights: no way they could masterfully fake that stuff as badly as they have f@&ked up their actual attempts to hide UAP activity.
Wow, I think I may have found the one topic that unites the country. It's rare to get a respectful, intelligent discussion on anything these days. The more I learn, the more I see why the US government wants to keep it quiet. Especially if we think we have the upper hand in access to the technology. There is nothing to suggest that any of the objects I've heard about are armed. Our probes that we are sending out are unmanned and unarmed.
It is making me question my religious beliefs. I now consider myself to the be at least partially Christian Diest (Jefferson, Adams) as opposed to a strict Christian.
It is making me question my religious beliefs. I now consider myself to the be at least partially Christian Diest (Jefferson, Adams) as opposed to a strict Christian.
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They could both exist
Yes.
All possibilities discussed seem extremely unlikely, but more than one unlikely scenario might be involved. I am convinced, at least one of them is a cause of the UAP phenomena, but prove one and it does not exclude others.
Inter-dimensional? Interstellar? From
the oceans’ depths? Antarctic? Literally underground?
I've heard the ocean for ships and think about it the word ship usually goes with water.. I think we have been to space but not been told the truth of it all. Not a fraction. I've also heard about the ufos of Antarctica, underground I imagine more of a reptilian race or tall whites with red hair who can't see in daylight and they've been here maybe since before we have. All just theories but I enjoy thinking about all this
Sounds like Nicole Kidman.I've heard the ocean for ships and think about it the word ship usually goes with water.. I think we have been to space but not been told the truth of it all. Not a fraction. I've also heard about the ufos of Antarctica, underground I imagine more of a reptilian race or tall whites with red hair who can't see in daylight and they've been here maybe since before we have. All just theories but I enjoy thinking about all this
I imagine more of a reptilian race or tall whites with red hair who can't see in daylight and they've been here maybe since before we have. All just theories but I enjoy thinking about all this
And in the vast array of potential, there is an extremely remote possibility they live openly among us . . . making me wonder what my neighbor has parked in his garage!! His machine might easily smoke
my ‘87 5.0 . . . and I ain’t talkin’ a Camero.
It’s seriously remote as a possibility, but wouldn’t we all LOAO if we found out they were among us, and we’ve known a couple of them.
One girl I dated had some small measure of scaly skin . . . a tell?
