Uh this is massively concerning
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Better than them laughing and telling jokes
Pope needs to take control and take any leadership he has given out away from everyone
Pope isn’t respected as an authority figure from his players. Too soft.
I have no doubt one is Oweh. Guy is a black hole who acts like he doesn't want to be here.
I’ll take Fox and Monk laughing on the bench over the b/s I saw on the court tonight
Deer in headlights. I hate it for Pope but damn, no excuses.
They all probably heard the rumor BG got 3 mil
A soft coach cannot control his team. No leaders, no accountability. A night out playing cornhole and drinking Ale8 can't fix this team.
When your team leaders are Brandon Garrison and Otega Oweh, you're pretty much cooked from a chemistry level.
Oweh was our fourth best player last year. There's your difference.
Oweh was our fourth best player last year. There's your difference.
I think it's him and/or Garrison. If Pope knows whats good for the team and his career here, he should discipline whoever that is and if they don't like it, they can ride the bench.
And we can blame this on NIL. 18-19 year old kids arent mature enough with millions of dollars. When you have one getting paid more than the next, it causes resentment.
How is he soft when he was under Pitino? It blows my mind. I would kill for Rick tonight. He would have chewed azz. So disappointed in Pope.
If I was a coach and the players didn't respect me because I was soft, that would either lit a fire under my tail or it make me realize, I have to walk away because this isn't the right fit.
Tomorrow is last day of early signing and we have 0. Looks like this is what we’ll have for a couple years. Good luck Cats fans.
Yeah but dozens of other programs are fine with various NIL paydays for their teammates. This reeks of just not a good roster from a mentality standpoint, and maybe coach being too soft.
Sometimes the team leaders need to chew on each other. You tell the rest of the team what they need to do and you do it forcefully.
Only Pope appears to be having this issue. Kind of curious, innit?
I’m def gonna have two lowers for sale for St. John’s game.
Never liked the idea of hiring a former player.
I just don’t see how 00 went from a great team mate to the worst. I just don’t believe it.
Pope is too soft. Can you think of a championship coach on any level that acted like him? Maybe Tony Dungy? Can you think of anyone else? I'm sure they exist, but certainly not in abundance.
Yea, something isn’t right with him. Seems so damned disconnected. Def not the same guy we had last year. Not even close.
Brutal. Dioubante, Chandler, and Mareno are the only ones showing fight. Well Williams too, but he's having confidence issues. Something reeks when it comes to Lowe. Oweh can't deal with not being the man, but can't perform when given the shot. Aberdeen plays like a disconnected professional which is fine if you have a team made up of those kinda guys, but this one isn't. Something is up with Garrison because he's not getting fed down low; he's been open, but snubbed quite a bit. Noah looks lost like he doesn't know how to cope with the locker room... like he's just lost in the background. I don't think Pope is utilizing the right guys in fear of causing more tension behind the scenes. Absolutely mess.
Maybe it all related to the supposed locker room issues. Could that the he's pouting because hes not in the NBA this year. There has to be reason of some sort because we saw what he could so last year.
John Wooden. But ... his teams' talent was immense.
It's like he knows we're not capable.
Mark, the bench is your friend in the long run. Grow a pair, bench some players and recruit from everything learned in this process. Otherwise enjoy a lower college.
Said that couple times already. These guys have some issues with one another.
And he had absolute killers recruiting for him. He also would talk to his players while they were on the court.
I am afraid this is the problem. If ever player become greater than the coach it is over
I absolutely hated that he came back. Least liked player since Briscoe.
“Worse!?! Look around here Ellen, how could things any worse? We’re at the threshold of hell!”
Read your post and agree completely.
I could be wrong on some of the details but last year St. John's had a really food player, thinking it was their top guy who wasn't giving it his all on the court and Rick ripped his tail bone and he transferred out. Accountability is always needed for any job whether it is in school or rec ball.
I go to my HOA meetings and get so pissed when folks get up and complain that someone would dare question a board member for something and then hear "how dare you say anything negative, we are all volunteers that get paid nothing".
then the same people who said this will go to the kids rec ball game and blast the "volunteer" coach yelling crap like, "I paid for my kid to play" and other crap like this.
Without accountability, you have what we have seen the last two games.
Sad, I like Mark Pope but dealing with these kids today in this environment is much different than in the past. Look at the quarterback for UK who was given a nice NIL check to sit on the bench and then goes out and acts a fool on social media showing off his money.
When I watched Garrison stand there and let the same rebound get by him not once, but twice on the same shot and still play, I knew right then we had issues.
Players getting frustrated with each other is normal and might even be good. Frustration with failure is a trait of competitive spirit. Open confrontation is better than petty, behind the back snark.
It's more about his play and body language this season than one clip IMO. Guy seems checked out.
Yeah, but if the team leaders aren't giving effort and still get all the minutes, no one is going to follow them.
Tony Dungy, yes. But Dungy worked in a league where you can flat out cut a guy. No guarantees in the NFL. Here, apparently you get a contract and you own the coach.