I agree with the OP. This job is too difficult for a first time HC unless he is really gifted. Over the past 50 years the only success UKFB had was under guys who were already successful HC's elsewhere with the exception of Mumme who was visionary but a weird bird. Look back: Curci, Claiborne and Brooks are the only guys who built the program up for a few years of success. They were all successful HC's at D1 level teams. I like Stoops but he was one of the only coordinators hired as a HC by a FBS level school the year we hired him. I really hope Stoops succeeds but if he doesn't we need to go find a guy like Brooks or Spurrier, past their prime but with a lot of juice and knowledge left in the tank.
UK football can't be a training ground for new coaches.
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Forgot the other guy on my list was Tommy Tuberville.
A proven winner in the SEC. Is doing well at Cincinnati.
Put Tuberville, Hudspeth, and Dykes names in a hat, and I would've been thrilled with whoever's name you pulled out.
It was the last two Florida losses that did it for me. We almost had them last year, and we should have beaten them this year. Beating Florida is going to be the bellweather for this program actually turning the corner.
Very well said. Stoops needs to shake up his staff. Almost 600yards to any team is unacceptable
I don't see a staff shakeup again. I think Stoops works with what he has or changes a position coach or two. He is on a 3 year clock. Elliot may move to the NFL or something like that but I don't see Stoops moving either coordinator out at this point.
Tommy Tuberville was available.
Was hired by Cincinnati the same year we hired Stoops.
Of course, this is unsubstantiated, but there was supposedly talk behind the scenes that Tuberville was interested in the UK job. He wanted back in the SEC.
All water under the bridge. Stoops is our guy.
I do believe he needs to shake up his coaching staff.
The same Tubberville who was out scored 28-7 against BYU in the second half two weeks ago? And the same Dykes who gave up 40 points and almost 600 yards to UCLA in blowout loss this week ?
Compared to the same Stoops who lost to WKU? The same Stoops who Mississippi State gained the their second most yards ever against?
The same Stoops who didn't even force Georgia to punt last season? The same Stoops who had to fight for his life against UL Lafayette and EKU?
Do you realize how idiotic it makes you look when you pick one game, or in the Tuberville example you gave, one half to hold against a coach?
Weak.
Tubberville has had many blowout losses at Cincy and his recruiting blows. Get a damn clue.
Yeah, he's only went 9-4 his first 2 seasons and is on track for another bowl this season.
And you don't want to get into an argument discussing blowout losses and UK football.
A three week stretch last year for Bear Bryant Tubberville- 50-28 loss to OSU, a 41-14 loss to Memphis and a 55-34 loss to a crappy Miami team. Yeah, he is who UK needs. [laughing]
And last season UK lost...
LSU 41-3
Georgia 63-28
Tennessee 50-16
And just got reamed by Mississippi State.
Keep digging that hole. You're doing great.
Let's look at Dykes- he is even better!!!! 11-20 at Cal and 5-17 in the conference. This brilliant record includes such losses as 52-34, 55-16, 49-17, 62-28, and 63-13. I got to hand it to ya, you know coaching when you see it!!!!
LOL.
Dykes was 1-11 his first season. Went 5-7 in his second. Now at 5-2.
Yeah, I do know coaching.
You are making this too easy.
And that 11-20 you laughed at Dykes about? Same as Stoops. And Stoops has one less conference win than Dykes.
You're a lightweight. Move along. I need some heavy lifting.
The OP bolted after loss to Florida and said he wouldn't be back until an 8 win season...yet here the d-bag is again
What you can't wrap your mind around is the coaches you mentioned are no better than our current coach. Which clearly shows your knowledge of football is lacking- severely.
You mean Tuberville, who has lead 3 different programs to bowl games?
You mean Hudspeth, who came into Lexington with a non power 5 team, and forced a more talented UK team to have to fight for its life right to the end?
You mean Dykes, who had California in the top 25 at one point this season, just 2 years after going 1-11?
You mean those coaches that I mentioned?
Tubberville has done nothing at Cincy except benefit from a joke schedule. He also can't recruit jack. Hudspeth? Lol. So using your logic, UK should hire the EKU coach. As far as Dykes, he has won one more game this year than Stoops and has had mutilple blowout losses in his time at Cal. Face it- your list of coaches are no better than what UK has at the moment. That's the bottom line.
If that's all you can come up with, then I win by TKO in the second round.
Still the defending champ.