UK football turns the corner

trueblujr

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I agree. Gran and Hinshaw are home runs and Thomas did a great job with UL's young WR's last year. I am not as sure about the new defensive coaches but Gran is perfect for what Stoops wants to do.

Oh COME ON MAN!!! You know damn good and well UofL's receivers were coached by little bobby junior Petrino kid last year. None of their success can be attributed to Thomas.
 

slam212121

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I'm glad some are on the "This will be the year" train. I hope it happens.
The defense will be led by the secondary. A physical and strong secondary. We haven't had this kind of crew ever since I've been watching. I think the LB's are physical enough to deliver a pop and slow the run. Hoping the line can rush to put at least semi pressure on the opposing QB's.

Damn! It can happen.
 
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Even if they do win 8 can they sustain it? Brooks had seasons winning 8. Mumme, Curci, Caliborne, Morriss, and even Curry has had seasons that would be considered good by UK standards. The problem is they typically follow it up with real stinker seasons. Its like they take one step forward and then two steps back.
Thank you for your support
 

tntuk

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Even if they do win 8 can they sustain it? Brooks had seasons winning 8. Mumme, Curci, Caliborne, Morriss, and even Curry has had seasons that would be considered good by UK standards. The problem is they typically follow it up with real stinker seasons. Its like they take one step forward and then two steps back.
If you look at our roster, most of our guys are Juniors this year. Meaning, they will be back next year.

Also, Brooks in his final 4 years took us to a bowl every year....Jokers first year team would have won 7-8 had Brooks been the coach.
 

screwduke

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2012 record 2-10
2013 record 2-10
2014 record 5-7
2015 record 5-7 With 8 home games
Your defense returns only 4 starters on a team that 59th in FBS. You have a new OC, new schemes do not run smoothly the first year, especially with a new QB. Your optimism is cute and good for laughs for all non-UK fans (SEC and the rest).
Question - do you keep Stoops another year when you go 4-8 or 3-9 this year?
Terrible post.
 

TuckyFB

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Southern Miss. - Win
@ FL - Win - FL has no QB and we've came so close to beating them the last two years we get it done this year.
New Mexico St - Win
South Carolina - Win - We own SC now
@ Alabama - Loss
Vandy - Win
Miss St - Win - No Prescott = good for UK.
@ Missouri - Win - Barry Odom hire is questionable.
Georgia - Loss
@ Tenn - Loss - I've picked them to win the SEC.
Austin Peay - Win
@ Louisville - Loss

I can see 8-4, and maybe 9-3 IF we beat Louisville but with the choke job we've done vs them that last two years. I have my doubts.
 

Poetax

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Even if they do win 8 can they sustain it? Brooks had seasons winning 8. Mumme, Curci, Caliborne, Morriss, and even Curry has had seasons that would be considered good by UK standards. The problem is they typically follow it up with real stinker seasons. Its like they take one step forward and then two steps back.

I hate to bring up excuses but because of probation, Curci and Mumme's momentum died. Caliborne was on the tale end of his career as well as Brooks, so recruiting did not stay up. And Morriss left for Baylor before we got to know what he could do.
 

TuckyFB

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2011 record 5-7
2012 record 2-10
2013 record 2-10
2014 record 5-7
2015 record 5-7 With 8 home games
Your defense returns only 4 starters on a team that 59th in FBS. You have a new OC, new schemes do not run smoothly the first year, especially with a new QB. Your optimism is cute and good for laughs for all non-UK fans (SEC and the rest).
Question - do you keep Stoops another year when you go 4-8 or 3-9 this year?
Question - If we're so irrelevant, Why did you take time of your day to make a account and post on here?

Asking for a friend.
 

Poetax

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2011 record 5-7
2012 record 2-10
2013 record 2-10
2014 record 5-7
2015 record 5-7 With 8 home games
Your defense returns only 4 starters on a team that 59th in FBS. You have a new OC, new schemes do not run smoothly the first year, especially with a new QB. Your optimism is cute and good for laughs for all non-UK fans (SEC and the rest).
Question - do you keep Stoops another year when you go 4-8 or 3-9 this year?

Wow it only took one post for us to know how big a butt hole you are, congrats.
 

loose rhythm

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I like the above. I see us beating Georgia for a surprise and a 7 win season.

I think this is going to be a reverse of last year, where we get better as the year progresses, but don't see us beating UL unless they're banged up (which could easily happen)

Wins. S MS, NM ST, AP, Vandy, SC GA MS ST
 

slam212121

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FOR THE CARD TROLLS.

That's right. We are trying to compete in the SEC and inte
I like the above. I see us beating Georgia for a surprise and a 7 win season.

I think this is going to be a reverse of last year, where we get better as the year progresses, but don't see us beating UL unless they're banged up (which could easily happen)

Wins. S MS, NM ST, AP, Vandy, SC GA MS ST
Beating Georgia. Losing to Louisville. Ok. Yes. I see you're logic.
 

slam212121

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Jay Reim - this is for you. How about this? If UK wins you don't post for a solid calendar year and thus go in to obscurity and fade away forever since the MB is all you have. If UL wins I will not post for single full year.

You game? Or are you just going to post what I said so that the 6 other posters on UL Football site can read?
 

slam212121

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Defeating UL will not help UK nearly as much as it will devastate UL. True, it could end up making UK bowl eligible but in terms of being a win, only defeating Florida, Bama, Georgia will give UK the cred that it has turned the corner.

For the record, and don't hate blue fans, Jackson is a special talent at QB and I do enjoy watching his game. He's dangerous on every play.
 

redbudman

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Even if they do win 8 can they sustain it? Brooks had seasons winning 8. Mumme, Curci, Caliborne, Morriss, and even Curry has had seasons that would be considered good by UK standards. The problem is they typically follow it up with real stinker seasons. Its like they take one step forward and then two steps back.
Yes but now we have 1st class facilities!
 

jauk11

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2011 record 5-7
2012 record 2-10
2013 record 2-10
2014 record 5-7
2015 record 5-7 With 8 home games
Your defense returns only 4 starters on a team that 59th in FBS. You have a new OC, new schemes do not run smoothly the first year, especially with a new QB. Your optimism is cute and good for laughs for all non-UK fans (SEC and the rest).
Question - do you keep Stoops another year when you go 4-8 or 3-9 this year?

Which Little League team do you coach?
Minardi Hall is a landmark.

So is the table in the restaurant.
 

slam212121

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Jay - you wouldn't pay up. I've been reneged on twice with the spread. This would hurt worse. You'd lose your identity not being able to post. What do you got to lose? UL is a lock, right? An early 12 point fave. Come on. Take it.

UK will win 8 this year. UL is one of the W's.
 
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slam212121

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So you're not taking? Such a wimp. All mouth. You'll lose. It's gonna be epic too. Trying to be tough on a keyboard.

Let me know when you're game. 8 wins! UL won't be back to average, that was the ceiling all along.
 

slam212121

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I can't post there either. Like I said, I got burnt twice! Had I lost I would have ante up and paid. Your cess polluted fan club didn't pay and reneged on me.

You've got nothing to lose. Lock of the ages. Ante up or quit your quibbling.

UK will win this year. UL will never play for a title. Ever. See ya.
 
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PushupMan

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True, UL has achieved higher recent success, but UK is gaining ground. Here's the real point, UK's aim isn't to compete with the level of UL. It's to compete with the likes of Alabama, Auburn, LSU and Florida and so on. Defeating UL is a step in the right direction and a measuring stick that'll show progress and it simply means UK can hang with middle-of-the-road teams like yourself.

UofL can say exactly the same thing ... UofL is trying to compete with the likes of Florida State, Clemson, Miami, and Virginia Tech, and so on. Defeating UK is a step in the right direction that will show progress and simply means that UofL can hang with middle of the road programs like yourself....

Statements like these are really disingenuous, in my opinion. UofL and UK are rivals and members of the ACC and SEC respectively. Both are great conferences, though the SEC is better (certainly deeper and with bigger fan bases). The very best UofL and UK football teams could play with and defeat anyone in the country and both programs are only limited by the willingness of the respective athletic directors to hire the most talented coaches available.
 

BigBluePhantom

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I see some of our biggest weaknesses last year as our greatest potential to improve this year. We were so close to winning another 2 or 3 games last year. The fact that we lost those games due to silly mistakes made it real frustrating to watch. The upside is that those silly mistakes are easily corrected. For many years, we have lost games simply because we didn't have the talent to win. That was a real problem without a quick fix. We now have the talent to compete with all but a couple of teams on this schedule. All we have to do to move forward is execute the fundamental things like catching the ball, getting some kind of pressure on the QB and calling plays that make sense for the situation. That is all very doable.
 

slam212121

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UofL can say exactly the same thing ... UofL is trying to compete with the likes of Florida State, Clemson, Miami, and Virginia Tech, and so on. Defeating UK is a step in the right direction that will show progress and simply means that UofL can hang with middle of the road programs like yourself....

Statements like these are really disingenuous, in my opinion. UofL and UK are rivals and members of the ACC and SEC respectively. Both are great conferences, though the SEC is better (certainly deeper and with bigger fan bases). The very best UofL and UK football teams could play with and defeat anyone in the country and both programs are only limited by the willingness of the respective athletic directors to hire the most talented coaches available.
And if a UK fan posted this on the UL board where only 8 people reside, perma ban.

And note! UL has only been in the ACC for what? 2 or 3 seasons? The ACC is a decent conference, but come on dude. UL was able to build up its programs with wins in totally inferior conference schedule before entering big boy level. UK has tried doing it in the SEC for infamy.

Nice post. Made some sense, but off the grid in terms of schedule strength dating back two decades.
 

BoulderCat_rivals187983

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Count me among those who think we have a shot at 8 wins. A long one, but a shot. Thing is having followed UK sports for 50+ years it's hard to believe all the questions surrounding this team will get answered in a positive way. It's been fairly rare for UK football to have a season where everything goes right. OTOH if any program in America is due for some good luck it's ours. Too often we seem to be the program that can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as we did two seasons ago at Florida, and last year after having a 21 pt. lead over UL. Still, we keep hoping don't we?
 
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And if a UK fan posted this on the UL board where only 8 people reside, perma ban.

And note! UL has only been in the ACC for what? 2 or 3 seasons? The ACC is a decent conference, but come on dude. UL was able to build up its programs with wins in totally inferior conference schedule before entering big boy level. UK has tried doing it in the SEC for infamy.

Nice post. Made some sense, but off the grid in terms of schedule strength dating back two decades.
UK has also had advantages of being an SEC member that UL never has had. More to sell recruits, a bigger budget etc. To moan about being in the SEC without looking at the advantages it provides that we have wasted is sour grapes in my book.
 

WildcatofNati

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UK has also had advantages of being an SEC member that UL never has had. More to sell recruits, a bigger budget etc. To moan about being in the SEC without looking at the advantages it provides that we have wasted is sour grapes in my book.
Everyone should be aware that this poster is a filthy Cardinals fan. He's over at the Tard board mocking UK fans constantly.
 

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UK has also had advantages of being an SEC member that UL never has had. More to sell recruits, a bigger budget etc. To moan about being in the SEC without looking at the advantages it provides that we have wasted is sour grapes in my book.

It's also an incredibly steep hill to climb, but I'll give the Ville credit for starting small and climbing the stairs to a P5 conference.
 
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It's also an incredibly steep hill to climb, but I'll give the Ville credit for starting small and climbing the stairs to a P5 conference.
A very steep hill. UK left football out on the vine to wither for to long. UofL's commitment to football has finally forced the UK AD to address the issues.
 

Deeeefense

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A very steep hill. UK left football out on the vine to wither for to long. UofL's commitment to football has finally forced the UK AD to address the issues.

I think there is a lot more to it than that, but I would agree that the rivalry between UK and UofL that has developed has been a beneficial catalyst to both programs, and also enhanced Kentucky high school football in general - that's why I favor this series being continued, although many want to see it discontinued.
 
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I think there is a lot more to it than that, but I would agree that the rivalry between UK and UofL that has developed has been a beneficial catalyst to both programs, and also enhanced Kentucky high school football in general - that's why I favor this series being continued, although many want to see it discontinued.
It's funny the people who want to discontinue the series always seem to be on the losing side. Just look at the Zipp guy saying the same thing about the basketball series.
 

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It's also an incredibly steep hill to climb, but I'll give the Ville credit for starting small and climbing the stairs to a P5 conference.

UK is a founding SEC member. No one was a power in 1933, if UK had stressed football over the years they could have been great. UK didn't stress it, UF, UT, UGA & AL did. They developed winning traditions and UK didn't. UK can't really blame the SEC, UK just wasted its opportunity.
 

BigBluePhantom

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True, but if you play that game than you almost lost to EKU and LL as well. Can't play the 'ifs' and 'buts' game.
Assuming you understand what context means, go back and read this quote in context and you should understand the point. By cutting and pasting a single sentence out of an entire paragraph, you don't convey the message which was that we lost several games because of silly mistakes that are easily corrected. Had we lost another close game to either EKU or LL that would just make my point even stronger that our problems are fixable. We certainly had more talent then either of those two teams.
 

RV

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There are only two games that I believe that UK has little to no chance winning and those are both on the road. Those are at 'bama and at ewe tee. I believe all the others are in play if UK performs like I expect them to this season.

Am i saying they will win 10? Of course not, but neither do I believe they will top out at 5.