UK still a 3-seed in updated bracketology
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From a basketball perspective, UK vs. either Houston or St. Johns would be a very interesting game. Elite offense vs. an elite defense with the Final Four on the line.
How is St Johns that low? I do believe that everything now depends upon the rest of the season. History shows the conference tournaments don't really influence the seedings. But, there are always a few surprises in these conference tournaments that are won by a team not likely to be in otherwise and that knocks others out.
Good to see. Weathering the storm, more or less. We are somewhat dangerously close to the 4-5 teams behind us.
We sit at 3.31... but TTU, St. Johns, Michigan Purdue and Arizona are pretty close behind falling in the 3.60 to 3.80 range. Have to win one more I think to safely stay in the 3-seed.
We sit at 3.31... but TTU, St. Johns, Michigan Purdue and Arizona are pretty close behind falling in the 3.60 to 3.80 range. Have to win one more I think to safely stay in the 3-seed.
IF the SC is similar then we are still on the cusp of a 2 seed and that is why the next four games matter. If we could win the OU, LSU, and one of AU and Missouri, I think we could get a 2 seed if we are the 11th overall currently. If we win all four it is almost guarenteed. Lose 3 of 4 and could drop all the way to the last four or even a 5.
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I feel like we'll hold on to a 3 seed as long as we beat OU and LSU and win one game in the SECT.
From listening to the committee chairman last week, it sounds like the committee is taking injuries and our ridiculous conference into account.
From listening to the committee chairman last week, it sounds like the committee is taking injuries and our ridiculous conference into account.
We need the Alabama schools to take out the Mississippi schools for our SEC tournament seeding.
It's crazy that 14 schools could get in from the SEC though.
It's crazy that 14 schools could get in from the SEC though.
I would take that bracket all day long.
Would love to see UF in Duke’s bracket.
Would love to see UF in Duke’s bracket.
Probably won't happen. Duke would have the one of easiest 4 seeds (for them) and the hardest 2 seed. Guess which one will be changed!
So Lunardi has us, not just a 3 seed, but the second strongest three seed. How do the doom and gloomers on this site who are projecting a best case scenario of a six seed feel about this? Does it change any minds? I doubt it
True.
The SC has so much flexibility with how they can set up the tourney, that they can justify almost anything. If they want to help Duke out, they have ways of doing that and saying that it was to “balance the brackets” or whatever.
I am still mad about how they set up the 2015 tourney. That was a travesty and it was setup to get Duke to the title game to play UK. Everyone knew the top four teams that year were UK, Wisconsin, Duke, and Arizona. But instead of seeding them that way, they manipulated the bracket to give Duke an easier path to the title. They were afraid that if they put Wisconsin on the same side as Duke, the Devils might not make it to the title game to play UK. They wanted that title game matchup for ratings and were afraid that Wisconsin would mess it up. They did anyway, but it was at our expense.
Btw, if you don't like Lunardi, the bracketology matrix has us as a 3-seed.
ESPN article talks about Cheats 4 game win streak, 3 have losing records and are in the hundreds. Their best win in the streak 90th 16-12 FLST
They have 1 Quad 1 win, ONE!!! and a Quad 3 loss to boot. The other team they have in Wake has 2 Quad 1 wins and a Quad 3 loss.
If they put 5 ACC teams in it will be a disgrace. Especially if anything less than 13 SEC schools make it.
They have 1 Quad 1 win, ONE!!! and a Quad 3 loss to boot. The other team they have in Wake has 2 Quad 1 wins and a Quad 3 loss.
If they put 5 ACC teams in it will be a disgrace. Especially if anything less than 13 SEC schools make it.
They have played 1 game against teams currently ranked in the top 25. I imagine their SOS is a reason why they are that low. Big east is relatively weak this year and none of the power teams on SJU OOC schedule have a winning record in their respective conference.
The Duke bracket will make your gasp as they will have a police escort to the F4. Too much money not to have Flagg there.
BUT, they will stumble and won't make it there and he will head to the NBA.
BUT, they will stumble and won't make it there and he will head to the NBA.
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I stated in the other thread, UK is a 3 and SHOULD remain one. Going 2-2 will do it. CANNOT lose at home to LSU. That is about the only way to guarantee not getting a 3 seed. Call me crazy, but somehow go 4-0, a 2 seed is POSSIBLE. Would need some help, but doable. UT and Florida have a VERY tough schedule remaining.
Tenn. - @LSU / @ Ole Miss
Florida - @ Georgia / Texas A&M / @ Bama / Ole Miss
Iowa State - Arizona / BYU (Just won @ Arizona Saturday) / @ Kansas State (been playing well lately, and are at home.
Arizona - @ Iowa State / @ Kansas
Michigan State - @ Maryland / Wisconsin / Michigan
Wisconsin - @ Michigan State / @ Minnesota
Texas Tech - @ Kansas
St. Johns - @ Butler / @ Marquette
So teams above and behind UK will lose some games. UK has to win the games they are suppose to and beat Auburn at home and Mizzou on the road. 2-2 remain a 3 seed, 4-0 MAYBE a 2 seed.
This is the guy I trust more than anyone out there he has Kentucky #11
Updated: February 25, 2025
Updated: February 25, 2025
| Seeds 1-24 | Seeds 25-50 | Seeds 51-68 | First 4 OUT |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1) Auburn | 25) Ole Miss | 51) Chattanooga | Ohio State |
| 2) Duke | 26) UCLA | 52) Akron | Wake Forest |
| 3) Alabama | 27) Saint Mary’s | 53) High Point | Cincinnati |
| 4) Houston | 28) Louisville | 54) Jacksonville St | North Carolina |
| 5) Florida | 29) Creighton | 55) Utah Valley | Next 4 OUT |
| 6) Tennessee | 30) BYU | 56) Lipscomb | Boise State |
| 7) Iowa State | 31) New Mexico | 57) Ja Madison | SMU |
| 8) Michigan St | 32) Illinois | 58) Montana | Georgia |
| 9) Texas AM | 33) Connecticut | 59) Towson | San Francisco |
| 10) Wisconsin | 34) Utah State | 60) Rob Morris | |
| 11) Kentucky | 35) Gonzaga | 61) Cent Conn | Next In Line |
| 12) Texas Tech | 36) Nebraska | 62) Norfolk St | Villanova |
| 13) Michigan | 37) West Virginia | 63) Omaha | George Mason |
| 14) St. John’s | 38) Oklahoma | 64) Marist | TCU |
| 15) Arizona | 39) Texas | 65) Bryant | Colorado State |
| 16) Purdue | 40) Vanderbilt | 66) SE Missouri | Pittsburgh |
| 17) Missouri | 41) Baylor | 67) Southern | |
| 18) Marquette | 42) San Diego St | 68) American | |
| 19) Oregon | 43) Arkansas | ||
| 20) Maryland | 44) Indiana | ||
| 21) Miss State | 45) VCU | ||
| 22) Kansas | 46) Xavier | ||
| 23) Memphis | 47) Drake | ||
| 24) Clemson | 48) UC-San Diego | ||
| 49) McNeese | |||
| 50) Yale |
Love it. Maybe now we can stop with the “no way Kentucky can get a three seed” nonsense. It won’t be easy but it can be done
My guess is we need to win 3 out of our last 4 and win the 1st SEC tournament game to get a 3 seed.
Anything less and well it feels kind of doubtful and more like a 4 seed.
If we go 1-3 and then lose that SEC opener.......well then poo
Win tomorrow or there is no 3 seed period imo.
If you win tomorrow and beat LSU, a 3 seed is possible but you need help from other schools who would have to fail to move up.
On the other hand, win 3 of 4 and you have a 3 seed.
Go 2-2 but win three games in the SECT and you get a 3 seed.
There are multiple ways for us to get a three seed right now in my view
But you have to take into account that all the others we are fighting with for a 3, are also going to lose games and some might lose to weaker opponents.
That was a best case scenario IF we lost out. that's a very very important distinction you're leaving out. They have us as a 3-seed now, and BM has us dangerously close to falling to a 4-seed, and that's after going 1-1 this week. I have to believe if we went 0-2 this week, we'd be firmly on the 4-seed line for right now.
I do think if we can get one more win, maybe two, we should be safe and get a 3-seed. But if we lost out from here, and lost in the opening of the SECT, I just don't see our metrics being good enough (SEC or not) to warrant a 3-seed and maybe not even a 4-seed.
It is.. assuming Auburn and Mizz are maybe just too far out of reach for where the team is right now with injuries.
But.. it sounds like we will get Butler back in a week and maybe even Jrob for that final Mizz game.. so if that happens, I like our chances much more for potentially stealing a game from Mizz or even Auburn (although Auburn is gonna be tough no matter what).
Im just glad we got Vandy. That will go a long way in keeping us in a 5-seed and up range. Because had we lost that game, we would then HAVE to win some of these upcoming games or we would be looking at the potential of a 6-seed.
If we can get healthy and win 3 games at SECT, that would almost certainly get us a 3 seed though. It isn’t just what we do in the next 4 games. I will say if you don’t win tomorrow we will be a 4 seed regardless imo.
Look again he has Kentucky at 11 which is the 3rd of the 4 three seeds
Oh yeah I agree. And we can't rule out making a small run in the SECT. Especially if we get healthy.
I was sort of resigned to the fact that without Butler and Jrob (and Kerr, and if Carr wasn't healthy), we just weren't going to win many games. Figured the SECT was a 1st round loss. But the team has don't a pretty good job adjusting. We got some great play from Perry, Noah, and Chandler too, as guys who can step up. I think the team as is, could get a win or two in the SECT.
The key is the SECT might mean more to us than Auburn this year. I could see us upsetting them there. Could be the optimist in me but I like the Cats chances
6 seed was my worst case scenario. I think it’s just a little more realistic to expect a 4 seed but March is craziness
Kentucky really has a very bizarre resume
Wins vs Duke, Florida, Tennessee twice, Texas A&M, Miss State, Gonzaga, Louisville (all pretty much NCAA tournament locks) and 5 wins vs top 2 seeded teams currently.
Loss vs Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, Vanderbilt, Arkansas (all bubble teams)
Wins vs Duke, Florida, Tennessee twice, Texas A&M, Miss State, Gonzaga, Louisville (all pretty much NCAA tournament locks) and 5 wins vs top 2 seeded teams currently.
Loss vs Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, Vanderbilt, Arkansas (all bubble teams)
Palm has us as a 4. He does a much better job at seeding than Lunardi unfortunately.
Go look at Palm’s bracket he released right before the tournament committee unveiled the top four seeds and compare…absolutely awful methodology this year. Lunardi was pretty close. This year Lunardi has been better than Palm