UL trustee Papa John in trouble?

[Bill Cosby]

And from what I’ve read, that not true at all. I do t see where he said what Sanders did was “awful”. He was trying to justify speaking out against NFL protesters by saying if Sanders could do that, why is it so bad that I speak out?

What have you read? Based on the limited leaks we've gotten, I would assume the context is the exact opposite. See my post above.

He was drug into a phone call to do a mock role play session because pizza sales were dropping and he attributed that decline to the National Anthem ********. I assume he was asking his marketing consultants why they're so goddam incompetent that Colonel Sanders could do something as reprehensible as saying "n*gger" and still sell chicken, when they couldn't figure out a way to keep pizza sales up in the face of his comments on the National Anthem.

Is there any indication at all he was saying anything even remotely close to "Colonel Sanders can say n*gger so I can talk about National Anthem protests"? That doesn't make any sense at all.

 

[funKYcat75]

Schnatter is reported to have downplayed the significance of his NFL remarks last year on the conference call, and then said that “Colonel Sanders called blacks n—–s” without facing any public backlash.

 

[Bill Cosby]

You are literally too dense to even argue with. Why don’t you go test out your hypothetical situation and let me know how it goes?

Because I know saying "n word" is no different than saying "n*gger" and I'm not the jackass arguing it is not different.

 

[WayneDougan_rivals170043]

No. They wouldn’t. That’s the whole point. There’s pretty much one word that he shouldn’t have said ... and he said it.

Do I personally think he should be destroyed for it? No. But he’s going to be just fine not working and living off of the millions of dollars he has.

What other words if I say, regardless of context, should I lose my job for? Be specific. You sound like a Puritan, btw.

 

[funKYcat75]

Because I know saying "n word" is no different than saying "n*gger" and I'm not the jackass arguing it is not different.

Go turn on any news channel today and let me know which one the anchors are using.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Schnatter is reported to have downplayed the significance of his NFL remarks last year on the conference call, and then said that “Colonel Sanders called blacks n—–s” without facing any public backlash.

My comments on the National Anthem had nothing to do with the decline in sales. Colonel Sanders called blacks n*ggers and there wasn't a public backlash against his chicken. You guys can't figure out how to keep sales up and are looking for a scapegoat.

We are getting one side of the story. Feigning outrage and virtue signaling just happens to be more important than being reasonable.

 

[homeytheclown]

My comments on the National Anthem had nothing to do with the decline in sales. Colonel Sanders called blacks n*ggers and there wasn't a public backlash against his chicken. You guys can't figure out how to keep sales up and are looking for a scapegoat.

We are getting one side of the story. Feigning outrage and virtue signaling just happens to be more important than being reasonable.

Its worse when u call them thugs and then they start saying thug is code for the n word and I can’t use that hahaha Obama said it too and so did don lemon.

 

[funKYcat75]

Let’s break this down to its simplest form. Should a white man say the actual n-word in a professional setting? That’s what he did. Do you think that’s ok? easy question.

 

[homeytheclown]

Why just a white guy? So Asians can say it Pacific Islanders? Your bias against whites is shining bright

 

[funKYcat75]

Why just a white guy? So Asians can say it Pacific Islanders? Your bias against whites is shining bright

No. This is a situation that actually happened. I’m not dealing in hypotheticals.

Bias against whites .....

 

[funKYcat75]

Let’s break this down to its simplest form. Should a white man say the actual n-word in a professional setting? That’s what he did. Do you think that’s ok? easy question.

No answers?

 

[Bill Cosby]

Let’s break this down to its simplest form. Should a white man say the actual n-word in a professional setting? That’s what he did. Do you think that’s ok? easy question.

Let's break this down...

"Simplest form" - well I guess the simplest form if you are a moron who doesn't understand context

"Should a white man" - OK, so we're are now applying different standards of professionalism to white people and black people solely based on skin color, but it's racist to quote Colonel Sanders.

"That's what he did" - if you are to goddam dense to understand the difference between quoting a historical figure and using a racial slur, then you really are to stupid to have any sort of reasonable conversation with, and you've shown that to be the case.

"Do you think that's OK" - Again, if he's quoting Colonel Sanders or Mark Twain, I really cannot imagine feeling the need to feign outrage

 

[homeytheclown]

No. This is a situation that actually happened. I’m not dealing in hypotheticals.

Bias against whites .....

Don lemon said it on live tv so did Obama Obama is half white. Yes bias against whites ,why not the democrat party said verbatim they are ditching the white working class.

 

[funKYcat75]

Let's break this down...

"Simplest form" - well I guess the simplest form if you are a moron who doesn't understand context

"Should a white man" - OK, so we're are now applying different standards of professionalism to white people and black people solely based on skin color, but it's racist to quote Colonel Sanders.

"That's what he did" - if you are to goddam dense to understand the difference between quoting a historical figure and using a racial slur, then you really are to stupid to have any sort of reasonable conversation with, and you've shown that to be the case.

"Do you think that's OK" - Again, if he's quoting Colonel Sanders or Mark Twain, I really cannot imagine feeling the need to feign outrage

So is that a yes? Answer the question. Do you think John Schnatter should have said the actual n-word in a professional setting?

 

[homeytheclown]

So is that a yes? Answer the question. Do you think John Schnatter should have said the actual n-word in a professional setting?

Probably not but he did nothing that should be or is considered illegal. You can’t legislate speech

 

[funKYcat75]

Probably not

Ok. That’s two votes for “no”.

You can’t legislate speech

He’s not going to jail.

 

[Bill Cosby]

So is that a yes? Answer the question. Do you think John Schnatter should have said the actual n-word in a professional setting?

So we now dealing with hypotheticals, or a situation that actually happened?

If you are so goddam dense you lack the ability to figure out how I feel about John Schnatter quoting Colonel Sanders on a conference call after all my posts on the topic, I really don't know what to tell you.

No. This is a situation that actually happened. I’m not dealing in hypotheticals.

 

[mdlUK.1]

Let’s break this down to its simplest form. Should a white man say the actual n-word in a professional setting? That’s what he did. Do you think that’s ok? easy question.

Do you think this should destroy his life? They are removing his name from everything. Is that right?

 

[funKYcat75]

Do you think this should destroy his life? They are removing his name from everything. Is that right?

I already said I don’t.

 

[funKYcat75]

So we now dealing with hypotheticals, or a situation that actually happened?

If you are so goddam dense you lack the ability to figure out how I feel about John Schnatter quoting Colonel Sanders on a conference call after all my posts on the topic, I really don't know what to tell you.

Soooooooo, no?

 

[homeytheclown]

I already said I don’t.

No comment on Obama or don lemon using it ? Or is it ok since they are black ish

 

[Bill Cosby]

Soooooooo, no?

So should I call you an "R word" or can I go with "retard"?

The though police going to get me if I use all the syllables?

 

[funKYcat75]

So should I call you an "R word" or can I go with "retard"?

The though police going to get me if I use all the syllables?

If that is the limit of your vocabulary, go right ahead.

 

[Bill Cosby]

If that is the limit of your vocabulary, go right ahead.

Not limited. Just using the word that best applies...

noun
informaloffensive
noun: retard; plural noun: retards
ˈrēˌtärd/

1. 1.
   a mentally handicapped person (often used as a general term of abuse).

 

[funKYcat75]

Not limited. Just using the word that best applies...

noun
informaloffensive
noun: retard; plural noun: retards
ˈrēˌtärd/

1. 1.
   a mentally handicapped person (often used as a general term of abuse).

The last gasp of a man with nothing further to say on the subject. Got it. Have a good one.

 

[Bill Cosby]

If you want to continue twisting your triggered virtue signaling like it's some sort of morally superior position, I will keep going.

 

[mashburned]

Can't we just agree that Papa is a flaming idiot and his pizza is trash.

 

[Dalton Swayze]

So if I say your mom is a ***** you’re either going to cry, fight and run tell someone that I’m a jerk?

Is she?

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

No answers?

I had a professor at UK do it. He was quite liberal and used the word with air quotes to basically disparage the bigots that use the word. Everyone there knew what he was saying, and why. (Caveat: I don’t think any black students were present)

 

[WayneDougan_rivals170043]

My issue with this isn't' that I'm trying to have carte blanche to say the n-word, it's that I don't believe the motivations of the "if you say the n-word, you're done" crowd are pure. They're not upset over hearing the word, they're looking for scalps.

If you want to talk professional setting, I'd agree that Papa J should have used the term "n-word", similar to how you shouldn't drop the F bomb in a business meeting. But the extend of his punishment is ridiculous.

 

[Deeeefense]

The issue isn't so much about should you say this word, the issue is what it reveals about you if you do say it. If you use the N-word as an adjective towards an AA or AAs in general then it reveals that you are a bigot and you harbor a discriminatory attitude towards that group. If you're in a high profile position your attitudes have significant repercussions towards those you have management authority over, those you deal with, those you may hire etc. and you may suffer consequences from that. It's particularly egregiousness in a situation where you are dealing with sponsorship of amateur athletics that predominately involve AAs.

 

[qwesley]

If you use the N-word as an adjective towards an AA or AAs in general

I would agree with the rest if this is what he did but it isn't.

 

[homeytheclown]

I’m curious as to what they do in re to the naming of the stadium and how that goes down...

 

[bluthruandthru]

This is the way I see it (I know you've been waiting with baited breath):

If someone uses that word often enough it will slip out at an inopportune time.

Do I know if Papa uses it a lot? I don't.

Was I on the conference call? I wasn't but it sounds like he was trying to make an emphatic point and his tongue betrayed him.

This being leaked way after the call is weak pizza sauce. I believe if the people on the call were offended they could have taken their business elsewhere (which I believe one company did). That is, in my eyes, justice enough.

 

[Bill Cosby]

I would agree with the rest if this is what he did but it isn't.

It's peak virtue signaling coupled with a straw man.

If John Schnatter called black people "n*ggers", of course that would be inappropriate, and no one would be defending his actions. No one needs to hear anyone thinks that is inappropriate. EVERYONE thinks that is wrong.

People don't like John Schnatter. They seized the opportunity. That's it. If he was Joy Reid, Bill Maher or anyone more sympathetic to the pop left, he'd lie about it happening or give a ******** apology and move on.

 

[Tannerdad]

They will remove the name on that stadium. They will have to because I am sure some half *** Liberal group will force it down with a demonstration.

The guy is a definitely not very corporate savvy. But not sure that makes him a racist.

 

[wildcatdonf]

It’s pretty simple. Don’t say that word. It’s not difficult. If you’re dumb enough to say it, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Taking it a step further, White people cannot say that word, learn this, know this, don't do this. Black people can say this word to other black people. You don't have to understand it if you've never been black. Saying the word in any context is very stupid. Don't do it.

 

[thabigbluenation]

Should Papa John have to go through what he is going through because of this, absolutely not, but should he have realized that he stood to lose a lot if it became public, right or wrong, yea he knew that. Moral of the story, don't cost yourself a lot of money over something stupid whether it should be perceived as right or wrong.

Do I think any differently of him, nope. Is he a bigot, not because of this, nope. And someone who posted earlier in this thread ought to:

 

[RacerX.ksr]

Let’s break this down to its simplest form. Should a white man say the actual n-word in a professional setting? That’s what he did. Do you think that’s ok? easy question.

Should a white man sing a rap song? Easy question. And just how stupid does a person need to be to not understand what the "N-WORD" means? What's the difference exactly?

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

Should a white man sing a rap song? Easy question. And just how stupid does a person need to be to not understand what the "N-WORD" means? What's the difference exactly?