UL trustee Papa John in trouble?

BlueElvis

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It’s pretty simple. Don’t say that word. It’s not difficult. If you’re dumb enough to say it, then I don’t know what to tell you.
 
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Shadow1671

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I'm just curious...why do some of you seemingly want to be able to use the "N word" so badly? I would never dream of calling or accusing anyone of being anything. In my opinion, it simply isn't my place to label people, but it does pique my interest as to why it bothers so many people that the "enword" is off-limits. I am not calling you anything for wanting to be able to say it, I am just not sure I understand the philosophy behind the backlash. Many have argued that it is a slippery slope, but what are the words that are still "ok" that you fear won't be soon? If we go down this path, what will be the next word to get someone fired that you are concerned about? Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk or judge anyone for anything, I'm just curious. Thank you for your thoughtful responses.
 
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I'm just curious...why do some of you seemingly want to be able to use the "N word" so badly? I would never dream of calling or accusing anyone of being anything. In my opinion, it simply isn't my place to label people, but it does pique my interest as to why it bothers so many people that the "enword" is off-limits. I am not calling you anything for wanting to be able to say it, I am just not sure I understand the philosophy behind the backlash. Many have argued that it is a slippery slope, but what are the words that are still "ok" that you fear won't be soon? If we go down this path, what will be the next word to get someone fired that you are concerned about? Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk or judge anyone for anything, I'm just curious. Thank you for your thoughtful responses.

I think you are missing our points. I am in no way advocating using the word or wanting to be able to use it myself. What I am arguing is that the context in which the word is used is important. We’re adults; we should be able to discuss the use of a word - especially in a private setting - without the mob trying to take away our livelihood. As George Carlin said, “it’s not the word that’s bad, it’s the context in which it is used”.
 

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I'm just curious...why do some of you seemingly want to be able to use the "N word" so badly? I would never dream of calling or accusing anyone of being anything. In my opinion, it simply isn't my place to label people, but it does pique my interest as to why it bothers so many people that the "enword" is off-limits. I am not calling you anything for wanting to be able to say it, I am just not sure I understand the philosophy behind the backlash. Many have argued that it is a slippery slope, but what are the words that are still "ok" that you fear won't be soon? If we go down this path, what will be the next word to get someone fired that you are concerned about? Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk or judge anyone for anything, I'm just curious. Thank you for your thoughtful responses.
It’s the selective outrage . He was quoting someone in a private meeting. Lynch mob justice is not something that is ever good.
 
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Shadow1671

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It’s the selective outrage . He was quoting someone in a private meeting. Lynch mob justice is not something that is ever good.

That's just it. Other than from people on this board, I haven't seen any outrage. Measures have been taken to try to prevent any, but I haven't really heard anyone that upset about it other than from people claiming he is the victim here.

It just seems to me as if every time someone loses his or her job for saying or doing something dumb, people often react with, "You just can't say ANYTHING anymore" or something similar. But you can. You can say anything you want short of yelling fire in a theater. You just can't say it without consequences.

It was a dumb thing to say in any context. I fully support his right to say it, but anyone with any amount of social awareness knows that nothing good ever comes from a non-black person saying that word. Even Eminem avoids it for the most part.

Is the reaction too harsh for the "crime?" Yeah, probably. But if Michael Richards can come back from what he did, Papa John will bounce back, too.
 

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UL is upset about someone using the dreaded n-word. Seems they should have more to worry about than that. Just a beard and a weak one at that.
 
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