They are going to play the conference tournament in North Carolina every season. It will be an away game by a conference dominated by mainly local geographic teams to that regional area. No matter how good or not a team they have, their chances are dim every year.
UL's big mistake joining the ACC
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What you typed is just wrong, no other way to say it. Check the future schedule for the ACC Tourney and you are in for some surprise the next 3 seasons.
2016 - DC
2017 - NYC
2018 - NYC
Pretty sure those cities aren't within the borders of North Carolina.
2017 - NYC
2018 - NYC
Pretty sure those cities aren't within the borders of North Carolina.
Their mistake in joining the ACC was that they'll be perennially a middle of the pack basketball team (NC State, basically). That's small potatoes, however, when compared to being the big dog in football. Hope the Cards fans don't mind that because it's plain as day.
Wait, whoa, slow down. The crown royal mist travels as well as any fan base. Exceptions being when they have opera tickets, a kegger, fifth street live ( is that the name of that dead place), dates with relatives, can't travel or buy tickets as money spent on meth. There is a lot to do in the mega city of lewisville.
We all hate UL, but there's no "big mistake" in joining a real conference. One that plays legit football and basketball. They haven't had that...ever.
I still think it was a mistake. In the long run both their football and basketball programs will suffer. Not monetarily. They will make more money this way, but they were a big fish in a little pond. Ten years from now when their coaches are gone and probably stayed past their prime, and they are getting 6 and 7 seeds in the tournament because they drop 8 or 9 games every season, well...
Except they can't pretend to be a big dog anymore.
UL is still just a commuter school with a miniscule fanbase compared to flagship land-grant universities.
Well, they got lucky the Big 12 picked WVa over them, because the ACC is a better gig. Point blank period. On the other hand, the are 4 giant programs in the game. UofL has to live in the shadow of one of the 4 - and now is in a conference with two others......
This is all Pitino's idea. He wanted the same for Kentucky when he was here. IMO Louisville will jump around 10 more conference's over the next few years until they settle down for one that truly sucks like them.
How many big fish in a little pond WIN IT ALL? We've seen many get close. Closing the deal and actually winning a title, no. Especially not in the current college football playoff format. It makes it almost impossible for a non-power 5 school. Basketball? It doesn't matter, there's a huge tournament.
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Think at least one of the NYC games will be in the Barkley center, maybe both. Is the Big East gonna be pushed out of the Garden?
The Big East is done at MSG after this year.
The ACC is not going to be at MSG. It's at Barclay's.
The Big Ten actually starts a rotation at MSG in 3 years.
The ACC is not going to be at MSG. It's at Barclay's.
The Big Ten actually starts a rotation at MSG in 3 years.
Louisville is not even second fiddle in that conference. Heck, right now they're not even third fiddle. It will ALWAYS be Duke and UNC and likely a couple other teams before Louisville. Virginia seems a prime candidate right now as long as Bennett is there.
UL is a team that always sees the grass greener on the other side. They thought they were elite when in fact they are still little brother. They had a run or two in history that gave them delusional hope. They need to crawl back to the the little conference USA or Metro with the other little fish. Then they can flex and brag once again.
Louisville will always be nothing more than an "Also Ran" in the ACC,Duke and UNC and the other couple teams that pop up in the ACC occasionally will always be ahead of the dirty redbirds.
In honesty the UL fans love it because they have new shirttails to ride on
In honesty the UL fans love it because they have new shirttails to ride on
Jurich's decision to join the ACC was not only about basketball, per se, although basketball was part of it. Although his methods and standards are certainly open to question, Jurich has worked for a long time to bring the quality of UL's sports programs up to a level that could qualify for membership in a major conference. UL wasn't ever going to get into the SEC. I don't think UK would ever allow that. Nor should we. It was ACC or Big 12 for them. Jurich made the right decision for UL. Whether UL's football and basketball teams can perform year in and year out against their ACC schedule remains to be seen. It is a challenge for them. Not a mistake. They just have to recruit and perform, if they can. They are in the same boat as other ACC teams. It will be fun to watch.
I dislike UofL as much as anyone but they'll always be good.
I expect that they'll have a resurgence in recruiting after Pitino leaves.
UNC looks like they're going to be down for a while in the future if they get hammered by the NCAA like they should.
Syracuse is going to suck for awhile.
Virginia will always be good with Bennett as their coach but I don't think that they'll stay THIS good going forward.
UofL is a big time basketball program and they'll always be competitive in ANY conference that they are in.
As good of a program as they are, they will NEVER be on the level of Kentucky!
I expect that they'll have a resurgence in recruiting after Pitino leaves.
UNC looks like they're going to be down for a while in the future if they get hammered by the NCAA like they should.
Syracuse is going to suck for awhile.
Virginia will always be good with Bennett as their coach but I don't think that they'll stay THIS good going forward.
UofL is a big time basketball program and they'll always be competitive in ANY conference that they are in.
As good of a program as they are, they will NEVER be on the level of Kentucky!
UL built their "brand" (LOL) beating up on teams like Cinci, Rutgers, Memphis, ect. They went to two BCS games beating schools that stil can't get a P5 conference invite when they've expanded to 14 teams. The conference has dissolved to the point of not even playing football anymore. They have never played on a stage big enough to brag about their past "achievements". Their perceived place in the national landscape has been a smoke and mirrors act for the entire existence of their program. Now they'll be a middling football program in the 2nd worst P5 conference and a fringe top 25 basketball program just like they always would've been if they'd played with the big boys
This is for that idiot zipp.
He claims that UK is "wasting their money paying to secure WHAS in the Louisville market."
In 2010, UK was 3rd overall in media rights income receiving $7.7 million in revenue. Louisville was 23rd on that list with $1.7. The money used to purchase air time for Kentucky on WHAS comes from Host Communication and Gray Television group who have paid UK for the media rights. It's not costing Kentucky anything. It is a revenue stream for Kentucky. See, zipp, you are still an idiot who understands nothing. How clueless are UL fans? Very....
He claims that UK is "wasting their money paying to secure WHAS in the Louisville market."
In 2010, UK was 3rd overall in media rights income receiving $7.7 million in revenue. Louisville was 23rd on that list with $1.7. The money used to purchase air time for Kentucky on WHAS comes from Host Communication and Gray Television group who have paid UK for the media rights. It's not costing Kentucky anything. It is a revenue stream for Kentucky. See, zipp, you are still an idiot who understands nothing. How clueless are UL fans? Very....
This right here is what eats at the very core of their soul. I loved reading a thread over there the other day that was nothing but whining how they were getting very little mention from national media from their win over Virginia. They so want their program to be revered but it never will be the way they want it to at least not any time soon.
Well, that can't be right. THey said, in more than one season, that the BE was the best conference in history. How can any conference be "by far" better than the best in history?
-Louisville did not make a mistake joining the ACC. If they had declined, then they would become a wasteland for college sports (see what is / will happen to schools like UC and UCONN).
-HOWEVER, the ACC is going to be a rude awakening for them in many ways. They have fashioned themselves as an all-sports national power. That was built on a false foundation of wins over weak sisters, and now they will realize that UL is not a top 10 program in any sport.
-I see UL becoming more and more of a football school over time. Their basketball is simply not going to compete well against the likes of UK, UNC, and Duke. Throw in rising programs at UVA, NCSU, Notre Dame, et al and they will struggle to finish in the top 3 of that conference most years. Football, on the other hand, should be a much shorter putt. They have a lesser program than that of Clemson and FSU, but all they need to do is catch lightning in a bottle one year and catch FSU in a down year and they can go to the BCS.
The unfortunate part of this is that football is now much more important than basketball. It just is. So, it would be nice if programs like Ga Tech and NCSU and others in the ACC could elevate their football programs.
-HOWEVER, the ACC is going to be a rude awakening for them in many ways. They have fashioned themselves as an all-sports national power. That was built on a false foundation of wins over weak sisters, and now they will realize that UL is not a top 10 program in any sport.
-I see UL becoming more and more of a football school over time. Their basketball is simply not going to compete well against the likes of UK, UNC, and Duke. Throw in rising programs at UVA, NCSU, Notre Dame, et al and they will struggle to finish in the top 3 of that conference most years. Football, on the other hand, should be a much shorter putt. They have a lesser program than that of Clemson and FSU, but all they need to do is catch lightning in a bottle one year and catch FSU in a down year and they can go to the BCS.
The unfortunate part of this is that football is now much more important than basketball. It just is. So, it would be nice if programs like Ga Tech and NCSU and others in the ACC could elevate their football programs.
UL made a good business decision joining the ACC...
they'll make more money in a power 5 conference...
however, the other side of the coin will be that over time they will regress in terms of competitive prowess...in a lot of sports...
ACC is tough in basketball, football, baseball, soccer...cards are going to find out that they are not so elite in everything...
they've really prided themselves on their football program since Bobby P's first time around...then Charlie came in fresh off a run with urban meyer, and brought a lot of florida talent with him and was able to cake walk to sugar bowl in the old BCS...
those days are over...Football will not be a cake walk anymore...and though they can pitch "ACC" to recruits, they still have to compete with FSU, Clemson, Miami, Va-tech, G-Tech for those recruits, and then compete against them on the field...
Bobby is not even half the recruiter or coach Charlie is...he didn't need much of a defense back in the day, and could rely on out scoring inferior talent...
they'll make more money in a power 5 conference...
however, the other side of the coin will be that over time they will regress in terms of competitive prowess...in a lot of sports...
ACC is tough in basketball, football, baseball, soccer...cards are going to find out that they are not so elite in everything...
they've really prided themselves on their football program since Bobby P's first time around...then Charlie came in fresh off a run with urban meyer, and brought a lot of florida talent with him and was able to cake walk to sugar bowl in the old BCS...
those days are over...Football will not be a cake walk anymore...and though they can pitch "ACC" to recruits, they still have to compete with FSU, Clemson, Miami, Va-tech, G-Tech for those recruits, and then compete against them on the field...
Bobby is not even half the recruiter or coach Charlie is...he didn't need much of a defense back in the day, and could rely on out scoring inferior talent...
UL is a big time program and always will be. They are a little down this yr but they lost one of their best players, Chris Jones before the tourney started.. hey'll be back. Pitino is a hall of famer..
Jurich did that for football, period. I think Pitino wanted to stay in the Big East where he would play in MSG every year. But the Big East was never going to give UL a chance to compete for a national championship in football. And football is where the money is.
However, even this year with their basketball team down a little, their games against Duke, UNC, and UVA were very highly rated on TV. They will get more exposure in the ACC even if they never win a championship. They always be in the running for a NCAA tournament bid. The ACC is and always will be a better basketball conference than the SEC. So they will have a perennial excuse for not winning it.
However, even this year with their basketball team down a little, their games against Duke, UNC, and UVA were very highly rated on TV. They will get more exposure in the ACC even if they never win a championship. They always be in the running for a NCAA tournament bid. The ACC is and always will be a better basketball conference than the SEC. So they will have a perennial excuse for not winning it.
Well they've essentially become the Cincy Bearcats. Which is helpful because they used to just be the Cincy bearcats in a horrible conference.
the problem they have is that they have a whole lot of fair weather fans and after a decent (but not great) football season and what is shaping up as a disappointing (and boring to watch) bball season, they are gonna lose the interest of a lot of people. if they dont have a better football season next year and at least some semblance of offense in their bball team, they will lose viewers. much like UK fans bailed on joker at the end of his run, ul fans are getting restless and pinning their hopes on football. i live in louisville and know a lot of ul fans who have told me they only watched 3 to 5 games this year. i know lifelong fans who could only name a few players on the team... they just dont care to watch what pitino has become.
