Unc Bradley going oro
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UNC's success next year is largely dependent on if Berry comes back. And as @dukiejay noted, it doesn't seem likely he will leave. Berry, Pinson, _______ , Maye, and Bradley could compete and possibly win the ACC. If the underscore is filled with Kenny Williams, it's less likely. If it is Knox, the chances rise dramatically.
IMO, losing Berry would hurt worse than Jackson. Roy's system is hugely dependent on great PG play, which can be seen in the differentials when he goes out of the game. He also played most of the year on a bad ankle. He was tearing it up before the Tennessee game and just wasn't the same player when he came back.
Especially if the unbalanced schedule favors UNX as much as it did this year.
It will need to be a down year for the ACC for Cheats to win the ACC. Meeks and Hicks size allowed them to rebound great over other players and Jackson was very good. Three tough ones to replace.
Ole Roy has ruined some good prospects over his selfishness. The most recent being Paige. If Paige leaves after his Jr year he is a potential 1st round. He stayed his Sr year and his stock dropped immensely. There's been a few that it's happened too. Cota was another one. Ole Roy will pull one back into the fold to make himself look better
Bradley going pro? In what, badminton? I like his game, and think he'll be a heck of a college player, but can't see this at this point.
And if Roy can keep lottery picks from going pro, doubt he's going to let a 2nd rounder escape.
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And if Roy can keep lottery picks from going pro, doubt he's going to let a 2nd rounder escape.
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I'm not sure if you're being serious but Cota was gone from unc several years before Roy got there. As far as Paige was concerned- if Roy ruined him then I guess K ruined Grayson right? It's the same logic.
It's so hilarious to hear that because if you read what they say over on THR, it's "Coach K is so selfish because he makes these guys stay longer" all the while UNC graduates multiple seniors every season as most UNC players stay at least 3 years if not the typical full 4 years of college.
As long as they learn one key phrase,would you like to supersize that order they will do fine in their careers
Got some bad info....It was from so.eone who doesn't really follow college ball, so it was second hand hearsay. Good they aren't all back, although they'll still be good. Not sure who else? ND maybe, pretty sure Vasturia and Colson and Beachem each have 8-10 more years of eligibility.
I think Bradley has the most upside on that team. Im certain he would be drafted before Hicks or Meeks. But he would be a lottery pick in next year's draft. And with the way Roy coaches, he would more than likely be an All American next year. But taking that chance makes you think about James Michael Mcadoo, who went from being a potential first round pick to being undrafted.
Bradley? Gone? That's insane! Would think Berry would try. He did last year. Haven't seen 'im on any draft boards though.
Yep. We'll never know but if they didn't win Monday night , I'd say it's no worse than 50/50 that Jackson stays. His draft status this year is , I believe(?) top 15...maybe top 10. Thing is , he tested the waters LAST year. The comments on 'im were less than spectacular...
Granted , that was then this is now but I wouldn't be shocked if he was just one of those guys who was an excellent collegiate player but didn't do much in the league. I agree with the earlier post. Wouldn't shock me at all if he returned. "Three year plan?" Please. Again , he tested the waters LAST year. His RSCI rank outta high school had 'im as #9. Top 10 fer cryin' out loud! So guys ranked in the Top 10 entering college are on 3-year plans?! Well , maybe they are for Roy but nowhere else. Look , I ain't bangin' on the kid either. He can play. But there's no way he entered unx PLANNING on being there 3 years. That's a company line if I ever heard one. Roy's retention with elites is just flat-out higher than all the other so-called "blue blood" schools...a LOT higher. Again , only 4 kids from the last 2 Top 15 classes are still in school. Roy has 3 of 'em. "3-year plan." That's a hoot.
Yep. We'll never know but if they didn't win Monday night , I'd say it's no worse than 50/50 that Jackson stays. His draft status this year is , I believe(?) top 15...maybe top 10. Thing is , he tested the waters LAST year. The comments on 'im were less than spectacular...
Granted , that was then this is now but I wouldn't be shocked if he was just one of those guys who was an excellent collegiate player but didn't do much in the league. I agree with the earlier post. Wouldn't shock me at all if he returned. "Three year plan?" Please. Again , he tested the waters LAST year. His RSCI rank outta high school had 'im as #9. Top 10 fer cryin' out loud! So guys ranked in the Top 10 entering college are on 3-year plans?! Well , maybe they are for Roy but nowhere else. Look , I ain't bangin' on the kid either. He can play. But there's no way he entered unx PLANNING on being there 3 years. That's a company line if I ever heard one. Roy's retention with elites is just flat-out higher than all the other so-called "blue blood" schools...a LOT higher. Again , only 4 kids from the last 2 Top 15 classes are still in school. Roy has 3 of 'em. "3-year plan." That's a hoot.
And I don't disagree with a word of that except me being "clouded by bias." You know better than me about a unx player. You say he's gone , he's gone. Fine. What I DO disagree with is any talk of a Top 10 kid entering school ( in this day and age! ) being on a "3-year plan." I ain't the one clouded by bias if you buy into that.
Does it really matter? Jackson became a three-year player, an All-American, national champion and now a possible lottery pick.
From a fans' POV , it's great. Roy kept his best players longer. unx wouldn't have been playing Monday night with 5 Luke Mayes. Where it matters is in recruiting. Roy's has been hurt by the scandal but also because of the perception that guys ( especially elites! ) don't develop particularly well and stay much longer than their peers. Now , we can debate the "develop" part ad infinitum but there's no question at all about the latter. Is what it is. Now , if Roy can land some of these blue-chippers he's involved with , he comes outta this just fine. If not , he's gonna be fielding teams with the kinda talent a mid-major would have. He's even offered unranked kids at this point. Unranked that , at the present time , can plan on plenty of prime-time PT in Chapel Hill.That's not typical Roy Williams. It just isn't.
Mid major, really? He did offer Manley and Huffman who are not highly rated but both had offers from some pretty good schools. Platek's offer sheet is probably the least impressive. I'm not expecting a ton from them but hopefully at least one of them can develop into a real contributor. Roy has often taken some lower ranked or 3 star kids sprinkled in his classes. Normally it isn't two or three in the same class but Felton, Black and White (2018) are all very solid recruits.
Yes. He's offered lower-ranked kids before but it was for ENTIRELY different reasons than it is now. You unx fans act like I'm just makin' sheet up. Roy has bemoaned his recent inability to land elites. Not me. Roy. Some of these "Plateks" probably wouldn't have gotten offers in the past and you guys know it. Geez Louise , feels like I'm pullin' teeth here. Again , if he lands some of the elites he's involved with now then all this won't impact him the way it might've. But as of now it is what it is.
Jackson is gone along with the seniors. I expect Tony Bradley to be back. I think Bradley is doing the test, evaluate, and return thing but, then, I expected Brandan Wright back after 2006-07 and was naively shocked when Marvin Williams declared after the 2005 title. My track record isn't good, but UNC has a very small recent sample of "one and done"s to consider. I apologize if that comes across as passive-aggressive.
Didnt Allen turn down a 1st rd selection and return to school. He might do it again this year. What about Jay Williams after his soph yr with a chip. Sometimes players love school and want to enjoy their time in college. James made a mistake he should have taken off after his frosh year but hey he still in the nba. As far as the Cota reference, its no need to respond most will know why lol.
Why the hell he is declaring is beyond me I guess ole Roy must of had a Coke with him and decided he should go pro. That hurts them big time. If Jackson and berry are smart they will follow suit. Bradley is good but I don't look at him as a first round can't miss pick. I hope he doesn't get drafted. He's a medicore big that feels he is ready which is no where near the case. I'm not trying to be a homer but I would take bam all day over bradley, and bam is just testing the waters since he didn't hire an agent. I don't know what the hell briscoe is thinking same goes for Kobi simons who averaged a whole 6 pta a game. This draft isn't loaded and both those guys will be lucky if drafted late in the second round. For a minute I thought Giles may of stuck around, but I don't blame him based on his health. He needs to get paid now. He can gain his confidence back in the d league as I expect a team like the spurs who can draft him and put him in the dleague to gain his confidence back. In retrospect, he probably shouldn't of played this yr, but when you're a competitor like him you wanna play.
^ late first rounders are not "can't miss picks". Even mid-to-late lottery picks aren't "can't miss". Bradley, as most big guys, will need several years to develop. Look at someone like Hassan Whiteside who 5 years after being drafted wasn't even in the NBA until he finally started figuring it out. I have no idea how Bradley will turn out as a pro, but he will be extremely good for UNC next year if he stays. To me, he is absolutely the key to UNC's success. Without him I don't see how they can get to another final four.
imo every player with NBA aspirations should go to the Combine and get a professional evaluation of their draft status
You hope a kid doesn't get drafted? Wtf is wrong with you? You're talking about Bradley being a mediocre big and leaving too early? Dude you're a UK fan. What were Daniel Orton and Dakari Johnson (although he stayed two years) and Bradley outperformed both of them. Your whole team is leaving, focus on that, you guys lose over half your team every year. He may not even leave after testing the waters he hasn't hired an agent just like Bam...
You won't gain any sympathy points in this board for your beloved bradley. Orrin went in the first round and wasn't even a cal recruit, and dakari wanted to just get paid. He as a d league all star this yr and will eventually be in the league. All I'm saying is Bradley should probably stick around for atleast another year. He's a good player but I wouldn't say he a guaranteed first round draft pick. you probably shouldn't be throwing stones with the stellar classes some of your players are taking. You should get hit with sanctions but we know that won't happen. You've had plenty of guys under ole hucks watch that he mangaged to get to stick around now you have to google where are they now because they aren't in the NBA except for a few. Marcus Paige shouldn't be in the d league yet that's where he can be found and was arguably the best pg in college last yr
Almost every sentence you wrote is wrong. I agree that Bradley should come back. Marcus Paige the best PG in college ball? I'd love to agree but wow. Also, the best players in college don't always have a pro game but don't let facts get in the way of your ********.