NIL has greatly reduced the ability of blue blood schools to dominate recruiting so therefore one of the main reasons to be a coach at one is almost not there anymore. You're always going to play second fiddle to Duke in the ACC but otoh you can always BE second in that watered down conference at UNC. I'm guessing for many coaches, money alone is not enough. Why go to UNC as an outsider? Might be a problem.
UNC Coaching Search
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What's all the hype with Lloyd? He's basically been an underachiever with the talent he's had. He has finally made it past the Sweet 16, so there;s that!
Honestly, it just doesn't seem like it's a good time for a blue blood to be searching for a coach.
Rhe guys that are cooking, are happy where they are and the guys that will come, are unproven.
Lloyd is great… .this year, but we've seen a lot of coaches catch lightning in a bottle and are never able to replicate it.
Having the right combination of players, can make any coach look great.
Rhe guys that are cooking, are happy where they are and the guys that will come, are unproven.
Lloyd is great… .this year, but we've seen a lot of coaches catch lightning in a bottle and are never able to replicate it.
Having the right combination of players, can make any coach look great.
Its amusing that even tho Donovan has turned UK down infinite times through the years, that theres still this desperate hope that he could be here.
What? So, you think Tucson Arizona is culturally the same as Chapel Hill? Are you serious?
And what on earth makes you think the North Carolina job is a step up from the Arizona job?
Trust me, your best bet is getting Billy Donovan away from that good awful NBA.
North Carolina has pissed away more talent than Kentucky has over the last 50 years. And, that’s saying something.
The UNC and Kentucky jobs aren’t that special any longer. They‘re just not. Indiana isn’t either.
I’ll say this again, you better hope you can get Donovan.
Well you seem to think the Pacific Northwest is the same as Tucson Arizona.
I can tell you that Chapel Hill is a lot more like where Tommy Lloyd lived most of his life than Tucson is.
I mean every journalist who has commented on the job has said UNC is a top 3 job in college basketball, with some rating it the number 1 job.
But I suppose it's personal preference for each coach to make that decision.
I can tell you two things that the UNC job has over Arizona:
1. More money
2. It doesn't have the Arizona athletic director Lloyd hates
Wrong again. Are you drunk? Why are you so hellbent on Tommy Lloyd?
How old are you? Curious.
What makes you think UNC has more money than Arizona? And even so, do you just want to buy a championship because you have the most money? What does that prove?
The Dodgers are buying championships now, but, it doesn’t mean anything.
The NBA sucks. And now that CBB is the same as far as getting players, Donovan is likely to give it another shot. Especially since Donovan hasn’t won **** in the NBA. No NBA team is clamoring for him to coach them. Also, there’s not nearly the travel in CBB as there is in the NBA.
Not to mention, Donovan will make double now in College than he has been making in the NBA.
It’s a no brainer for him to take the UNC job now.
Did you say he would take an assistant role in the NBA over a CBB head coaching job?
That’s just ridiculous.
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They way things are going, I expect Billy D to take the UNC job. But they could be waiting for Lloyd. Either one is miles ahead of Us
Go to bed. I’ve been here since the beginning.
What exactly have I posted that’s inaccurate? You’re on our message board acting like you know something. So far, you haven’t posted a single thing that makes sense.
Um.. Every team is trying to buy a title now..
That's the return we want to see..
Lloyd might take it, but, it would be a major mistake for him. The Tar Heels do not like outsiders. They just don’t.
Jerry Stackhouse should get the job.
UNC needs to go all in on Kenny Payne for that job
I don't get your purpose but it's clear you got a issue or something if somebody disagrees with something you say.
Anything is possible but I would be surprised if Donovan got back into coaching at the college level.
He's a bipolar troll with some serious issues. I am almost to the point of thinking "he" is Popes wife or Pope himself posting.
I would have thought that too but I have read that Donovan's camp has actually reached out to UNC. The list I have seen posted from some supposed UNC insiders says that Donovan is 4th on their list.
Recently, I found an old RR post that I had saved from 2006 that is quite interesting:
Rick Pitino recommended University of Florida coach Billy Donovan to be his Wildcats successor Tuesday, and Donovan got the endorsement of UK players, as well, according to the Orlando Sentinel.
Sources said Pitino advised Kentucky Athletic Director C.M. Newton, to go after the 31-year-old Donovan, whom he coached to stardom at Providence and groomed as an assistant on his UK staff from 1988-94. Pitino has said many times that nobody, player or coach, knows his up-tempo, pressing system better than Donovan.
Later Tuesday, the seven returning Wildcats players reportedly met as a team and by a 5-2 vote favored Donovan as Pitino's replacement."
Cincinnati Enquirer May 7, 1997
If Billy D wanted to be here, he would be. He had multiple opportunities to take this job and never has. Instead he strings out the process, flip flops, and apparently even once backed out of an oral commitment.
Of all the faults with Mitch over the years including this last basketball hire, I definitely think it was the right move to not bother waiting on Billy D to be available for discussion.
I think if it was Donovan they would've worked out a deal already for him to leave the Bulls and for the assistants to finish the season. Their season ends a week after the portal opens. And whoever UNC hires still needs to lock up their current signees.
Lloyd hasn't shut down the questions and apparently there's some kind of beef between him and the AD there. Unless he's using UNC as leverage, my money's on him.
Lloyd hasn't shut down the questions and apparently there's some kind of beef between him and the AD there. Unless he's using UNC as leverage, my money's on him.
Billy is an all in person who stays fully focused on what is in front of him at the moment. People close to him have said he won't even entertain the offer or discuss it until the Bulls season is over. We had the same situation when Mitch refused to wait for the Bulls season to end to court Billy and hired Pope instead of waiting. That doesn't mean he isn't interested. It just means he won't be distracted by it (despite the Bulls record) until the season is over.
You have to think that their prime candidate is still working out the season or they would have made the hire already.
I can’t believe it’s Lloyd or May and I don’t believe Donovan is going to significantly change that program.
IMO, a bad scenario as a Tar Heel non-fan is that they do strike out on their big names at the top of the list and “settle” on a Josh Schertz type, who is ready to win big at a blue blood.
"He tricked me" is the all time greatest quote from a coach.
Agree - there has to be a reason they are letting the FF play out. If it was Donovan, best to get him on board ASAP and hit the recruiting trail.
If it is in fact Donovan (Again, don't really buy this a whole lot), then why not just call it with the Bulls? They are out of playoffs, there's no real reason to wait until after that 82nd game. There's no conflict like going from one college team to another. UNC could at least lock up the coach, even if he can't recruit just yet as the season finishes. But seems like both parties (again, IF the Bulls want to get rid of him) would be better served to just get the this underway
Which is why I think he's only interested in the UNC job if he can't land elsewhere in the NBA. I think if he wanted to go to UNC and deal with 60% roster turnover every year.. when he already didn't want to coach in college 10 years ago... he'd have taken the job by now. He's an NBA guy who wants to stay with the NBA. He could easily go to several other franchises either THIS off-season or certainly by next off-season. Now, if Bulls fire him, and then no other teams want him, I could see him potentially going to UNC. But I don't think that's what he wants. He could very well be the head coach of the Spurs or the Rockets or the Knicks or the Nuggets sooner than we think.
Also, to bring up another talking point I'm seeing: an NBA coach is a great job to have, and it's silly to think it's somehow beneath college coaching. Regardless of what you think of the NBA, it's a coaching job where you have an owner/president/GM to handle a lot of the tasks. There's no recruiting. NBA players can't just transfer at will. It's a job that once you have, it's easy to get another few chances at head coach. Roster continuity is much better. Pays about the same. It's the pinnacle of the sport.
Which is why I think he's only interested in the UNC job if he can't land elsewhere in the NBA. I think if he wanted to go to UNC and deal with 60% roster turnover every year.. when he already didn't want to coach in college 10 years ago... he'd have taken the job by now. He's an NBA guy who wants to stay with the NBA. He could easily go to several other franchises either THIS off-season or certainly by next off-season. Now, if Bulls fire him, and then no other teams want him, I could see him potentially going to UNC. But I don't think that's what he wants. He could very well be the head coach of the Spurs or the Rockets or the Knicks or the Nuggets sooner than we think.
Also, to bring up another talking point I'm seeing: an NBA coach is a great job to have, and it's silly to think it's somehow beneath college coaching. Regardless of what you think of the NBA, it's a coaching job where you have an owner/president/GM to handle a lot of the tasks. There's no recruiting. NBA players can't just transfer at will. It's a job that once you have, it's easy to get another few chances at head coach. Roster continuity is much better. Pays about the same. It's the pinnacle of the sport.
I was wrong about Lloyd. Just announced he's signed a new deal with Arizona.
UNC fans on Twitter will be in shambles. They thought he was locked up.
UNC fans on Twitter will be in shambles. They thought he was locked up.
I really don't think Billy Donovan is going anywhere or that he is on the hot seat. The Bulls aren't going to blame Donovan for this year because they tanked this year and are in a very good position for the future. Their first round pick this year will be around #8 and that is as good this year as a normal #3 or #4 pick. They also are almost $50 million under the NBA minimum salary for next season. They could sign a couple max free agents next year or go the San Antonio patience route and acquire extra draft picks for taking salary off teams. The Bulls are positioned nicely to challenge the Celtics and Pistons for Eastern Conference dominance over the next decade so it's a nice coaching gig.
Guess this fixes the issues between him and the Arizona AD. He won't have to report to her anymore.
LOL at UNC.
Jerry Stackhouse come on down.
Again ……. LOL
I guess the supposed Michael Jordan phone call didn’t help out too much.
LOL
Jerry Stackhouse come on down.
Again ……. LOL
I guess the supposed Michael Jordan phone call didn’t help out too much.
LOL