UNC*** latest - Just when thought you heard it all

[preacherfan]

First, let me say that the new book by Willingham and Smith is available! I ordered two copies today.

Second, from Packpride I learned that Willingham made a comment about hearing from the NCAA in April or May (lots of debate about that might mean)

Third, SACS is going to deal with UNC*** after their June meeting.

Finally, this is what I had a hard time believing, Bradley Bethel, the former learning specialist at UNC***, who identified himself as part of the Provost's office and seemed to know some confidential information that had not been released to the public is producing a documentary on the scandal! But, what struck me was the following quote, which kinda speaks for itself:

"Connie Lo Ferrara, producer of the documentary, has previously worked on "365 Days: A Year in Happy Valley," a documentary focused on challenging the media's perspective of the Jerry Sandusky scandal at Penn State University. She said she was contacted by Bethel to work on the film.

"I think there are a lot of parallels between the situation at Penn State and the one at the University of North Carolina," she said."

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2015/02/learning-specialist-bradley-bethel-quits-job-to-make-documentary-on-unc-academic-scandal

 

[akaukswoosh]

Bethel btw is Bagdad Bob's American nephew.

 

[akers65]

thanks for the link

from it is this statement which everyone knows
"Boosters have deep pockets, and the
protection of the Carolina brand has become something of an obsession
with many of them,"
and the fact they raised so much money so fast, I assume
that this will be a pro UNC propaganda piece for the school.

I would much rather see an completely objective report on them, not a damage control piece
This post was edited on 3/11 8:46 PM by akers65

 

[EastKYWildcat]

"Bradley Bethel feels so strongly about what he calls the media's sensationalism of UNC's athletic-academic scandal that he quit his job to make a documentary about it."

Seriously? It wasn't mentioned whatsoever outside of the N&O until the Wainstein report. Good luck to them in finding a way to spin protecting Sandusky and all the facts known about the UNC case.

This post was edited on 3/11 8:47 PM by EastKYWildcat

 

[Spanish Radio]

Bethel will regurgitate the UNC*** talking points. It would be nice for someone like 60 minutes to roll in and do an hour on the subject but they are owned by CBS which has said almost nothing on the subject during their sports broadcasts for some reason.

This will give Bob the troll more semantics to talk when trying to use his voice to clutter the subject. Pretty sure this guy has made a point to have accounts on most of the forums of division one schools to spread his crap.

 

[preacherfan]

Originally posted by martinsm30:

Bethel will regurgitate the UNC*** talking points. It would be nice for someone like 60 minutes to roll in and do an hour on the subject but they are owned by CBS which has said almost nothing on the subject during their sports broadcasts for some reason.

This will give Bob the troll more semantics to talk when trying to use his voice to clutter the subject. Pretty sure this guy has made a point to have accounts on most of the forums of division one schools to spread his crap.

I think Bob is Bradley or a close associate. I think he started the other thread to test one of his theories for the documentary. Expect to see a lengthy discussion in the documentary about McCants and how he was still eligible, etc.

 

[Allan Brewer]

Perception is more important than reality with the Tarholes

They never were the basketball hotbed they wanted everyone to believe they were and now that it's all revealed as smoke and mirrors they are hard at work cranking out more smoke and propping up more mirrors

A said little village of blind and drunken mice

 

[Xception]

Propaganda is one of the most powerful and influential weapons of all time , countries , militaries , religions and rulers have used it to take land , kill millions , brainwash and subjugate the multitudes . Hitler used nothing more than propaganda to seduce a nation , take control and plunge the world into war . That is but a glimpse of the power words can have on an audience .

I mention this and an example most will be familiar with because UNC has used this tool to their benefit , now they use it to run from justice . They spent decades feeding the media and public a regular diet of how wholesome they were , that was a cover to hide the hideous nature of their true identity . During this scandal they have tried to sway opinion through every avenue available , being so corrupted that they still tout academics among UNC athletes . Who UNC was to start this mess is who UNC still is .

 

[O'boro Cat]

Bethel is a complete clown. He publicly yells complains online to anyone who will listen that North Carolina has done nothing wrong or inappropriate and that this whole scandal is based on nothing but lies from people with agendas to take down the program. Baghdad Bob is a quite accurate comparison.

 

[wildcatdonf]

It seems like UNC were the best cheaters that the world has ever seen and has the best liars as well.

 

[sonnyg333]

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^and the most money to buy a cover up...

 

[TankedCat]

if I had to guess Bethel quit his job because he was so convinced of UNC's exoneration that he got into twitter fights and other forms of social media and made an *** of himself. He attacked the credibility of anyone - even people with first hand knowledge of the situation.

I wouldn't be surprised if he felt the University was going to rid itself of him in the near future.

 

[MO_Blue]

Seems like UNC is preparing for its last stand with propaganda and lies.

The NCAA is in a tough position here. It's them or UNC. Somebody's credibility is dead.

 

[Stenchymouse]

I have never seen an institution or public figure work so hard to cover up the truth as UNC.

I honestly can't believe that the school would truly sacrifice their integrity for wins on a basketball court.

The whole school should be shut down.

 

[TUL]

BRad is being paid by some wealthy Rams Club member, I am sure.

That place is a damn cesspool. The whole state. You guys might like this...

[/QUOTE]On your right, former UNC AD during 14 of the 21 years of the most egregious athletic/academic fraud in NCAA history. On your left, his son, NC Superior Court Judge Allen Baddour, UNC Grad and presiding judge over NC vs. N'yang'oro had UNC Grad Prosecutor Jim Woodall not dismissed charges. The Carolina Way.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Originally posted by wildcatdonf:
It seems like UNC were the best cheaters that the world has ever seen and has the best liars as well.

And even more money. They are going to fight this thing until the bitter end in any and every way possible. We can count on that.

 

[larry the cable guy]

Well obviously their propaganda is working on some people...their fans sure believe it.

 

[preacherfan]

Originally posted by meeksfor3:

Well obviously their propaganda is working on some people...their fans sure believe it.

The comparison with Penn State is valid in more ways than one.

 

[docholiday51]

Mainstream sports media is beginning to talk openly about it(mainly because of Syracuse) that is a step in the right direction,most of them are willing to say that cheating may have gome on for a long time and many people are involved.
The NCAA will be hard pressed to find a way out of this that doesn't involve sanctions against UNC

UNC has no recruits for next year and in this day and time if you swing and miss in a recruiting year you have a big problem.Roy is in his final years(this could be it,maybe 1 more).They are already looking at a Tubby-Gillispie type of year(with more of the same to come.

I want to see a couple of banners come down and some wins go away(banners may not happen) but it isn't a bed of roses for UNC currently and like the old Batman T.V. show said "the worst is yet to come"

I think the KU and Alexander situation is more important right now,get the facts you can,make a decision based on those facts before the NCAAT.So what if you vacate a few wins in 3 or 6 months,if they win a game or two in the NCAAT those teams that went home still went home and should not have because of KU.

 

[preacherfan]

Originally posted by docholiday51:

Mainstream sports media is beginning to talk openly about it(mainly because of Syracuse) that is a step in the right direction,most of them are willing to say that cheating may have gome on for a long time and many people are involved.
The NCAA will be hard pressed to find a way out of this that doesn't involve sanctions against UNC

UNC has no recruits for next year and in this day and time if you swing and miss in a recruiting year you have a big problem.Roy is in his final years(this could be it,maybe 1 more).They are already looking at a Tubby-Gillispie type of year(with more of the same to come.

I want to see a couple of banners come down and some wins go away(banners may not happen) but it isn't a bed of roses for UNC currently and like the old Batman T.V. show said "the worst is yet to come"

I think the KU and Alexander situation is more important right now,get the facts you can,make a decision based on those facts before the NCAAT.So what if you vacate a few wins in 3 or 6 months,if they win a game or two in the NCAAT those teams that went home still went home and should not have because of KU.

Unless I missed something new, I think Alexander is done for the year. He has to be cleared by the NCAA to play now and I don't see that happening. When they hired a lawyer, I think we were in the point of no return.

 

[docholiday51]

Originally posted by preacherfan:

Originally posted by docholiday51:

Mainstream sports media is beginning to talk openly about it(mainly because of Syracuse) that is a step in the right direction,most of them are willing to say that cheating may have gome on for a long time and many people are involved.
The NCAA will be hard pressed to find a way out of this that doesn't involve sanctions against UNC

UNC has no recruits for next year and in this day and time if you swing and miss in a recruiting year you have a big problem.Roy is in his final years(this could be it,maybe 1 more).They are already looking at a Tubby-Gillispie type of year(with more of the same to come.

I want to see a couple of banners come down and some wins go away(banners may not happen) but it isn't a bed of roses for UNC currently and like the old Batman T.V. show said "the worst is yet to come"

I think the KU and Alexander situation is more important right now,get the facts you can,make a decision based on those facts before the NCAAT.So what if you vacate a few wins in 3 or 6 months,if they win a game or two in the NCAAT those teams that went home still went home and should not have because of KU.

Unless I missed something new, I think Alexander is done for the year. He has to be cleared by the NCAA to play now and I don't see that happening. When they hired a lawyer, I think we were in the point of no return.

Yes,I think he is done from this point forward,but he played in several games previously and may not have been eligible in those games either, if those wins are in question then KU shouldn't be in the NCAAT .If it was a UK player in the same situation there would be an outcry about us being in the NCAAT.

 

[SLONER67]

Originally posted by Xception:
Propaganda is one of the most powerful and influential weapons of all time , countries , militaries , religions and rulers have used it to take land , kill millions , brainwash and subjugate the multitudes . Hitler used nothing more than propaganda to seduce a nation , take control and plunge the world into war . That is but a glimpse of the power words can have on an audience .

I mention this and an example most will be familiar with because UNC has used this tool to their benefit , now they use it to run from justice . They spent decades feeding the media and public a regular diet of how wholesome they were , that was a cover to hide the hideous nature of their true identity . During this scandal they have tried to sway opinion through every avenue available , being so corrupted that they still tout academics among UNC athletes . Who UNC was to start this mess is who UNC still is .

I have to hand it to you, Xception...that was very well said. I can't disagree with anything you said here.