UNC Why no outrage?

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What I do not understand is why have no prominent African American Leaders in sports or out of sports, has not had anything to say about this?

UNC has used mostly African American Men for their athletic abilities, to promote the university, These athletes, lay their bodies on the line for the university, & the education the university is supposed to give to the athlete in exchange to help them become better educated young men, thus helping them to get better jobs has been denied them.

I do not understand why these African American Leaders are not rising up in anger about this?
 

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You mean leaders like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? They're busy looking for something to complain about.
 

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African American leaders? There hasn't been one of those since Martin Luther king Jr. Was around. The ones you see now are bigots in the highest degree and are poison amongst our society.
 

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What I do not understand is why have no prominent African American Leaders in sports or out of sports, has not had anything to say about this?

UNC has used mostly African American Men for their athletic abilities, to promote the university, These athletes, lay their bodies on the line for the university, & the education the university is supposed to give to the athlete in exchange to help them become better educated young men, thus helping them to get better jobs has been denied them.

I do not understand why these African American Leaders are not rising up in anger about this?

Money...that's the simple answer. Everyone has something to lose in this, and they don't want that. Money will keep just about all mouths shut.
 

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African American leaders? There hasn't been one of those since Martin Luther king Jr. Was around. The ones you see now are bigots in the highest degree and are poison amongst our society.
I can't speak to all of the leaders in the black community. I have no idea. I suspect there are many that are doing a lot of good things to improve the lives of folks that maybe wouldn't have had a chance otherwise.
In regards to Al Sharpton in particular, he is a shameful excuse for a leader. If I remember correctly, the black community in Charleston, South Carolina didn't want him involved in anything after the tragic shooting there. Especially the families of the victims.
 
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What I do not understand is why have no prominent African American Leaders in sports or out of sports, has not had anything to say about this?

UNC has used mostly African American Men for their athletic abilities, to promote the university, These athletes, lay their bodies on the line for the university, & the education the university is supposed to give to the athlete in exchange to help them become better educated young men, thus helping them to get better jobs has been denied them.

I do not understand why these African American Leaders are not rising up in anger about this?
Because they only complain about white people "injustices"? Duh...

Did you really just ask why black leaders aren't condemning a likely all black academic department?
 
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Because they only complain about white people "injustices"? Duh...

Did you really just ask why black leaders aren't condemning a likely all black academic department?

Yes, this is an injustice that African American Leaders should be outraged about. You have had at least two decades of African American students getting cheated out of an education just so the university can keep them eligible & make as much money as they can off of them, & the athletes got nothing in return.
 
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Yes, this is an injustice that African American Leaders should be outraged about. You have had at least two decades of African American students getting cheated out of an education just so the university can keep them eligible & make as much money as they can off of them, & the athletes got nothing in return.

Lets not pretend that the "students" and their families weren't aware of what the classes really were. The majority of those taking the paper classes never had any intention of getting an education, they were only there to get to the NBA/NFL and get paid.
 

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Lets not pretend that the "students" and their families weren't aware of what the classes really were. The majority of those taking the paper classes never had any intention of getting an education, they were only there to get to the NBA/NFL and get paid.

This is exactly the reason. The "victims" have not complained about the lack of an education. I'm sure they were more than OK with this setup.
 
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This is exactly the reason. The "victims" have not complained about the lack of an education. I'm sure they were more than OK with this setup.

They also saw what happens if you do speak up "Rashaad McCants", you get vilified, and labeled a trouble maker.
 

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This is where I differ from a lot of fans. I value my education that I have worked very hard for over sports. I love sports but it's not my god. If I found out that players from my favorite team were being given fake degrees that I paid money for and worked hard to earn, I'd want the program shut down or to clean house.

However, people sell their souls for sports. We spend so much damn money and look the other way at corruption (society as a whole) simply for success in sports. I also, want to reiterate that there is a HUGE difference between joke classes and a department being a complete sham and being given degrees.
 
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Yes, this is an injustice that African American Leaders should be outraged about. You have had at least two decades of African American students getting cheated out of an education just so the university can keep them eligible & make as much money as they can off of them, & the athletes got nothing in return.
But it was african americans doing the shafting. When have sharpton or jackson criticized or condemned another african american for exploiting or disenfranchising african americans? Hell, that's basically what THEY do.
 

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But it was african americans doing the shafting. When have sharpton or jackson criticized or condemned another african american for exploiting or disenfranchising african americans? Hell, that's basically what THEY do.

They never have and they never will...unless they believe that African Americans is an Uncle Tom. I don't know what's worse, those two morons holding down and profiting off of African Americans, or the African Americans that buy their ********.
 

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Too busy looking for some microaggression and slight by whitey elsewhere.

They benefit from this so they don't give an eff. The "leaders" save their outrage whenever the latest career criminal gets killed.
 

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The cheating at UNC was designed to benefit African American athletes. Therefore, it is completely justified. There is no reason for any outrage.
 
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If these so-called leaders were smart, they'd lead the charge to abolish the corrupt NCAA, separate athletic money sports from academics, and start paying the players their share, instead of supporting a bloated, corrupt bureaucracy full of fat cat political administrators and lawyers. I think Jackson and Sharpton must be on the take.
 
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Why would Sharpton and Jackson get worked up? If I'm not mistaken isn't the UNC scandal about people getting something for nothing?

I would think they would consider that progress.
 
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Why would Sharpton and Jackson get worked up? If I'm not mistaken isn't the UNC scandal about people getting something for nothing?

I would think they would consider that progress.

A fake degree for nothing is still nothing. Pay the players and not the bureaucracy that pretends to be a committee from god.
 

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Get these sleeze bag bureaucrats out of our schools. They're a leech on the education system and the students suffer for it. Nothing the NCAA or Fed Government does helps academics, which is the primary school mission.

Cut, this ****, simplify, and clean up higher ed. IIRC, the US has the highest tuition cost in the entire world. Most can be attributed to the overhead required to hire even more administrators to spin and report useless data to useless bureaucracies run by political spinmeisters.
 
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Big Time Money = Big Time Corruption. Remove the TV contracts for college athletics and the corruption would diminish. The corruption would focus down on the agents attempting to represent these athletes when they get on TV as pros.

Erskine Bowles is tied into the UNC scandal. He was President of the UNC Board of Governors in 2005. He has a lot of powerful political ties.
 

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OP, I am outraged that you are outraged over this recent lack of outrage.

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what took place at unc for decades was a systematic process in which black athletes were denied access to education while given the appearance that they were. Fraudulent African studies curriculum, indeed. Non-existent classes resulting in passing grades, credited hours and, eventually, degreed work. This process could have included a lot of white student-athletes, but it did not. This process could have involved disgracing an otherwise legitimate studies program with natural traceability to the white race and the European continent, but it did not. By every corrupted footprint of unc's approach to denying those black athletes access to education and, instead, access only to service this process, indeed, included a modern form of enslavement. To view persons such as Kenny Smith on espn ride along in denial and continue to celebrate that institution proves that everybody had their hand in cracking the antebellum whip, not just the owners, not just the white field masters . . . that should answer the OPs question, right there.
 

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I can't speak to all of the leaders in the black community. I have no idea. I suspect there are many that are doing a lot of good things to improve the lives of folks that maybe wouldn't have had a chance otherwise.
In regards to Al Sharpton in particular, he is a shameful excuse for a leader. If I remember correctly, the black community in Charleston, South Carolina didn't want him involved in anything after the tragic shooting there. Especially the families of the victims.
As a black friend once told me...the only people who think Al Sharpton is a "leader" are Al Sharpton and white folks. Pretty much the same for Jesse Jackson.
 

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My guess is that Jesse and Al both contacted UNCheat a long time ago. They got their "hush money" and went on their merry way.