Updated Head Coach Poll - who is most likely to be our next coach
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Name exactly what any hope would have been based on if Franklin had been kept for next year. There is none, few younger guys were getting playing time, Fraklin did not excel with the Portal, and Franklin's history at PSU shows when there is one mediocre/bad year, he follows it up with another.
Covid caused '21's horrible performance also?
Name all the other coaches from a program of PSU's stature that have been given 12 years while producing only pretty good to bad seasons.
I agree. I’d prefer Brohm and then Diaz but voted Hartline just due to Penn State pessimism. I think he wasn’t that high on Kraft’s list but gets it by process of elimination.
You must have missed Penn State winning the Big in 2016 which was his 3rd season and his first after the last 2 and worst 2 years of the sanctions and the team being a few plays away from playing for the Natty last year.
Oh gee I don’t know I remember some guy who won 409 games who took 17 years to win a Natty and was given several chances to rebound from bad years. And I say this as someone who doesn’t have a problem with the Franklin firing.
Get what fixed? Franklin said this was his best team ever (coaches, players) - how much time does he get?? He’s likely still coach if our only losses are to OSU and Oregon. Clearly his ability to honestly evaluate his staff and team was severely compromised or he’s a huge liar. This team, and his coaches, aren’t good. At all. He needed to go.
I know you offered the choices in alphabetical order, but I believe Paul Simon influenced the last two options in this version of "10 Ways to Replace Your Fired Coach."
And you may now resume the debate.
And you may now resume the debate.
It does appear they may lose out either way, but if Franklin was still on that field this Saturday it would be a disaster at that stadium. There's just no way they could let it get any worse than it did at the Northwestern game.
There’s an underachiever. SC backed up the brinks truck for him and he has won nothing there. The guy still doesn’t understand that in order to win you have to play defense.
Think they will let you have the lids to the water bottles this week?
Only on the west side probably. Anyone who could launch them at Kotelnicki when he calls that automatic 20 yard loss dumbass trick play won't be allowed to get them.
It’s funny that Lea does not have a single vote yet, but Josh Pate, who in my opinion is an excellent college football analyst, believes Lea is one of the best fits here. He really likes Campbell and Drink as well. He thinks Elko is a fantasy. It’s just a few minutes, and well worth a watch:
I think Kraft WANTS to ”lose out” to cover his a$$. If he would have waited till the end of the season, Franklin might have actually won some games, and righted the ship going into next year.
Kraft’s presser made it sound like he’s infatuated with all the money he thinks he has at his disposal, and thinks he has an endless amount of cash on hand to buy some superstar coach (who more than likely doesn’t exist) and a National Championship in the next couple of years.
The guy is beyond delusional.
Ah, yes, "Drop off the Key, Lea, and get yourself free..."
The problem is all inside your coach she said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you attain a Natty
There must be 50 ways to get a new coach
50 ways to get a new coach
Playing in the Big XII provided a lot of cover for these offensive geniuses - Riley, Kotelnicki, Yurcich, etc….
I have done some thinking and I'm going to reverse my original thoughts on Key. I think he will get the job done here, but it's going to take 2 years.
When your team lost 3 games, which includes to Pitt, by 39, and when scoring 49, it wasn’t a great year. Essentially had team knocked out of MNC race in September.
Some great moments, but not great season overall.
Are you seriously trying to equate Franklin’s 12 years to Paterno’s first 12/17? I’ll let you pick whichever to show your ignorance.
In his first dozen seasons, Paterno had 3 perfect seasons, and 2 others with only a single loss.
Franklin had a blown game in ‘17 against MSU he used a delay as one excuse, an unprepared team for a ‘19 matchup with the Gophers, and the usual losses to the higher ranked big boys those and other years.
Franklin was about as successful as the over the hill 70 year old plus over the hill Paterno. That isn’t something to brag about.
Certainly sounds promising but as he mentioned, the potential of an SEC team or FSU offering would be a huge hurdle given he's a southerner.
If Gruden doesn't want it, I'll take Manny tomorrow over the rest of them. He's already had his dream job at a facilities poor school, got canned, and has learned and become successful at Duke. He wouldn't be going anywhere and I sensed he really liked his time in Happy Valley. I think he's a perfect fit.
Now about the coordinators...
Now about the coordinators...
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I've said throughout the smart money is on Hartline but it's Elko's job if he wants it. Not sure why that confuses you. From 10/30. Click on search and type in "smart money"...
You're just being difficult like the earlier nonsense that if they get Hartline countless others turned him down. He was Plan B the whole time...well C if you count Urban
Yeah, "off the board" to me would mean eliminated. Not very impressed with Pate's articles.