US court blocks Trump from imposing the bulk of his tariffs

moe

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[thumbsup] It's hard for courts to keep up with all of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional EOs but they eventually do catch up. Trump's entire presidency is based on illegal and unconstitutional EOs. Sit down clown. This could hurt the Trump family's deal making and extortion efforts so this is serious!

US court blocks Trump from imposing the bulk of his tariffs

A federal court on Wednesday ruled that President Donald Trump overstepped his authority to impose sweeping tariffs that have raised the cost of imports for everyone from giant businesses to everyday Americans.

But the administration immediately appealed the decision on Wednesday night, leaving the situation uncertain for consumers and businesses and potentially prolonging the battle over whether Trump’s import duties will stand – and possibly reshape the global economy.

A three-judge panel at the US Court of International Trade, a relatively low-profile court in Manhattan, stopped Trump’s global tariffs that he imposed citing emergency economic powers, including the “Liberation Day” tariffs he announced on April 2. It also prevents Trump from enforcing his tariffs placed earlier this year against China, Mexico and Canada, designed to combat fentanyl coming into the United States.
 
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[thumbsup] It's hard for courts to keep up with all of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional EOs but they eventually do catch up. Trump's entire presidency is based on illegal and unconstitutional EOs. Sit down clown. This could hurt the Trump family's deal making and extortion efforts so this is serious!

US court blocks Trump from imposing the bulk of his tariffs

A federal court on Wednesday ruled that President Donald Trump overstepped his authority to impose sweeping tariffs that have raised the cost of imports for everyone from giant businesses to everyday Americans.

But the administration immediately appealed the decision on Wednesday night, leaving the situation uncertain for consumers and businesses and potentially prolonging the battle over whether Trump’s import duties will stand – and possibly reshape the global economy.

A three-judge panel at the US Court of International Trade, a relatively low-profile court in Manhattan, stopped Trump’s global tariffs that he imposed citing emergency economic powers, including the “Liberation Day” tariffs he announced on April 2. It also prevents Trump from enforcing his tariffs placed earlier this year against China, Mexico and Canada, designed to combat fentanyl coming into the United States.
Tell them to enforce their ruling
 

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Can't wait for Trump's desperate illegal and unconstitutional response. Time to attack the judges who ruled!! Get 'em MAGA!
Liberals like yourself are hell bent to destroy a great country.
 

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Liberals like yourself are hell bent to destroy a great country.
lol Stock market loves it and that's just common sense. This is the best thing that could happen to MAGA and they don't even know it. Trump was busy crushing the economy with his ill-advised, economy-killing tariffs. Empty shelves, higher prices.
 

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lol Stock market loves it and that's just common sense. This is the best thing that could happen to MAGA and they don't even know it. Trump was busy crushing the economy with his ill-advised, economy-killing tariffs. Empty shelves, higher prices.
How do you like the fact that inflation has nearly stopped, prices are down? Tariffs have caused no problems. Get the liberal retards out of WH
 

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How do you like the fact that inflation has nearly stopped, prices are down? Tariffs have caused no problems. Get the liberal retards out of WH
Relax, higher prices (and empty shelves) are coming. Companies have been making announcements in that regard. Maybe it won't be as bad now.
 

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Relax, higher prices (and empty shelves) are coming. Companies have been making announcements in that regard. Maybe it won't be as bad now.
People couldn’t afford **** under the liberals. Hopefully, we arrest everybody involved with JB fake presidency
 

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[thumbsup] It's hard for courts to keep up with all of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional EOs but they eventually do catch up. Trump's entire presidency is based on illegal and unconstitutional EOs. Sit down clown. This could hurt the Trump family's deal making and extortion efforts so this is serious!

US court blocks Trump from imposing the bulk of his tariffs

A federal court on Wednesday ruled that President Donald Trump overstepped his authority to impose sweeping tariffs that have raised the cost of imports for everyone from giant businesses to everyday Americans.

But the administration immediately appealed the decision on Wednesday night, leaving the situation uncertain for consumers and businesses and potentially prolonging the battle over whether Trump’s import duties will stand – and possibly reshape the global economy.

A three-judge panel at the US Court of International Trade, a relatively low-profile court in Manhattan, stopped Trump’s global tariffs that he imposed citing emergency economic powers, including the “Liberation Day” tariffs he announced on April 2. It also prevents Trump from enforcing his tariffs placed earlier this year against China, Mexico and Canada, designed to combat fentanyl coming into the United States.


CCP wins again temporarily. Look at you getting excited about that.
 

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This shouldn't be that big of a deal since clown Trump hasn't signed a new trade deal with one country yet, should be easy to start over with them all.
 

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This shouldn't be that big of a deal since clown Trump hasn't signed a new trade deal with one country yet, should be easy to start over with them all.
I know you'll never answer this but at the heart of Trump's increased "tariffs" was simply us finally charging various countries who trade with us exactly what they've been charging us! It's called "reciprocity". So my question to you which I 100% guarantee you won't answer is why should we pay higher tariffs to countries trading with us than they are paying us? 🤔

@moe
Get real atl...you know good and damn well if I honestly answered that I'd have to drop this silly anti-Trump, anti-MAGA rampage I'm on! Why would you want me to do that when I want to see America crash & burn?

Well maybe... I mean just maybe @moe ... I was thinking you were on our (America's) side?

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Ha! I hate Trump, and I hate you Trumpers too who Love Trump. Doesn't it stand to reason I also hate America since both Trump and you Trumpers Love America & you all can plainly see I don't?

You do have a point there @moe. 😏
 

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Who sets tariffs? Who will win this argument? Well, that depends on what's being argued?

read here
Who Controls U.S. Tariffs? The Constitution vs. Presidential Power

Article excerpted in full:

Constitutional Basis for Tariff Authority​

Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution vests the power to lay and collect tariffs with Congress. The Founding Fathers intended for legislative oversight on taxation, tariffs, and related financial matters, viewing tariffs as strategic levers to be used with caution and prudence. Historically, Congress set tariffs and maintained tight control over this power. However, over time, particularly after the Great Depression, there was a shift towards delegating some authority to the executive branch. This began with the Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act of 1934, allowing the President to negotiate trade agreements without separate congressional approval each time.

Later acts, such as the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and the Trade Act of 1974, further evolved this delegated authority. These allowed the President to act on national security concerns through tariffs or respond to unfair foreign trade practices. However, this delegation is not unchecked. For instance, Section 232 of the 1962 Act enables the President to impose tariffs if imports threaten national security, but this is bounded by specific findings and processes.

The Supreme Court has emphasized that any delegation of power must include an “intelligible principle” to direct and limit the President’s use of this authority. While the President can negotiate and respond to immediate threats, the imposition of generalized tariffs still requires congressional approval, reinforcing the separation of powers fundamental to our constitutional republic.

How Congress Gave (and Limited) Presidential Control Over Tariffs​

The historical evolution of tariff authority delegation reflects the adaptability of our constitutional framework. The Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act of 1934 marked a pivotal shift, empowering the executive branch to negotiate trade arrangements with other nations. This was not an abandonment of congressional authority but a pragmatic adaptation to enable quick responses to rapid changes in international trade markets.

The Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and the Trade Act of 1974 continued this trend, adding provisions like Section 232 and Section 301, which allowed the President to impose tariffs in response to national security threats or unfair trade practices. However, these powers were still subject to specific findings and justifications, ensuring that executive actions were neither arbitrary nor unrestricted.

Throughout these legislative changes, the Supreme Court’s insistence on the “intelligible principle” doctrine remained a cornerstone, mandating that any delegation of authority must come with clear guidelines to avoid unfettered presidential power.

This historical trajectory represents not a relinquishment of congressional power but a measured response to a fast-paced global environment. Congress has consistently revisited and adjusted these delegations, aiming to balance responsiveness with oversight. This careful calibration reflects the enduring strength and adaptability of our constitutional system, ensuring that while the executive branch can address emergent trade threats swiftly, the foundational checks and balances intrinsic to our Republic’s governance remain intact.

The Supreme Court’s Verdict on Presidential Tariff Power​


Key Supreme Court cases have shaped the interpretation of executive power in tariff imposition. These decisions underscore the balancing act between presidential authority and congressional oversight.
In United States v. Belmont (1937), the Court upheld the executive’s ability to make unilateral agreements in particular circumstances, confirming that the President had limited latitude to act independently of Congress, yet within the boundaries defined by existing legislation and constitutional principles.

The Steel Seizure Case (Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 1952) provides an important counterpoint to unfettered executive power. The Court invalidated President Truman’s attempt to seize steel mills during the Korean War without explicit congressional authority, emphasizing that the President cannot unilaterally take over domestic industries. Justice Robert Jackson’s influential concurrence laid out a framework assessing executive power based on congressional backing.

These interpretations reinforce that while the President may wield significant influence in specific areas of foreign policy and national security, Congress’s overarching authority in imposing tariffs remains paramount. The Court’s decisions preserve the foundational structure of power in the United States, guiding the delicate interplay between responsive leadership and constitutional fidelity.


Can the President Declare a Trade War?​

The President’s authority to impose tariffs operates within a framework designed to balance swift executive action with legislative oversight. Key provisions include:

  • Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962: Enables the President to impose tariffs if imports threaten national security, following a thorough investigation.
  • Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974: Allows the President to impose retaliatory tariffs to counteract unfair foreign trade practices.
  • International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA): Grants the President authority to regulate commerce during national emergencies involving foreign threats, requiring a formal declaration.
These powers are not absolute. The Supreme Court has consistently underscored the need for an “intelligible principle” guiding the exercise of any delegated authority. This judicial oversight ensures that the President’s tariff-related powers align with congressional intent and constitutional mandates.

While the President possesses significant authority to impose tariffs under certain conditions, this power is framed by statutory directives and constitutional principles that uphold the balance of powers. The legislative branch retains its critical oversight role, ensuring that tariffs are used judiciously in accordance with national interests and the rule of law.

Potential Reforms and Challenges​

Reforming tariff policy presents an opportunity to maintain the balance between executive flexibility and congressional oversight in today’s rapidly evolving global economy. Key considerations include:

  1. Reassessing delegated authority: Congress could introduce more stringent standards for invoking national security justifications or set clearer parameters for retaliatory actions.
  2. Enhancing transparency and accountability: Mandating more comprehensive reporting of tariff actions’ rationale and anticipated impacts could allow for informed legislative and public scrutiny.
  3. Judicial oversight: Courts can further reinforce constitutional balance by clarifying the extent of permissible executive action in tariff matters.
Challenges persist in balancing the need for executive flexibility with congressional oversight. The intricacy of contemporary global trade dynamics necessitates a degree of agility from the executive that static legislative processes may not always accommodate.

Striking this balance requires ongoing dialogue and collaboration between the branches of government, fostering a spirit of cooperation that avails the benefits of swift executive action while safeguarding the constitutional principles underpinning our Republic. This approach honors the enduring wisdom of our Founding Fathers in establishing a system of checks and balances that ensures each branch remains accountable, adaptable, and true to the nation’s foundational values.

The U.S. Constitution’s enduring strength lies in its system of checks and balances. This framework ensures that while the executive branch can respond swiftly to trade challenges, Congress retains its vital role in overseeing taxation and trade regulation. This balance is a cornerstone of our constitutional republic, reflecting the wisdom of the Founding Fathers.


  1. United States Constitution, Article I, Section 8.
  2. Trade Expansion Act of 1962, Section 232.
  3. Trade Act of 1974, Section 301.
  4. United States v. Belmont, 301 U.S. 324 (1937).
  5. Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579 (1952).

So as you can read here folks, it's not an open and shut case. The President does have some authority here to act if he senses an "national emergency" however Congress does have a say under the Constitution over what any given tariff rate will or should be?

This is going to the Supreme Court. I'd expect the question to be settled giving deference to the President to act as he sees fit if he sufficiently demonstrates a "national emergency" indeed exists. Ultimately I expect Congress to codify into Law whatever new trade deals Trump negotiates in the meantime.
 
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[thumbsup] It's hard for courts to keep up with all of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional EOs but they eventually do catch up. Trump's entire presidency is based on illegal and unconstitutional EOs. Sit down clown. This could hurt the Trump family's deal making and extortion efforts so this is serious!

US court blocks Trump from imposing the bulk of his tariffs

A federal court on Wednesday ruled that President Donald Trump overstepped his authority to impose sweeping tariffs that have raised the cost of imports for everyone from giant businesses to everyday Americans.

But the administration immediately appealed the decision on Wednesday night, leaving the situation uncertain for consumers and businesses and potentially prolonging the battle over whether Trump’s import duties will stand – and possibly reshape the global economy.

A three-judge panel at the US Court of International Trade, a relatively low-profile court in Manhattan, stopped Trump’s global tariffs that he imposed citing emergency economic powers, including the “Liberation Day” tariffs he announced on April 2. It also prevents Trump from enforcing his tariffs placed earlier this year against China, Mexico and Canada, designed to combat fentanyl coming into the United States.
It is hard to keep up with all the lawsuits that your people file against our President...it's a waste of your time because 85% of them will be or have been overturned.

Also deals are being made like the United States and China deal which will have each lower tariffs by 115% while retaining an additional 10% tariff.

Another recent deal was with the UK that will significantly expand U.S. market access in the UK, creating a $5 billion opportunity for new exports for U.S. farmers, ranchers, and producers.
 

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[thumbsup] It's hard for courts to keep up with all of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional EOs but they eventually do catch up. Trump's entire presidency is based on illegal and unconstitutional EOs. Sit down clown. This could hurt the Trump family's deal making and extortion efforts so this is serious!

US court blocks Trump from imposing the bulk of his tariffs

A federal court on Wednesday ruled that President Donald Trump overstepped his authority to impose sweeping tariffs that have raised the cost of imports for everyone from giant businesses to everyday Americans.

But the administration immediately appealed the decision on Wednesday night, leaving the situation uncertain for consumers and businesses and potentially prolonging the battle over whether Trump’s import duties will stand – and possibly reshape the global economy.

A three-judge panel at the US Court of International Trade, a relatively low-profile court in Manhattan, stopped Trump’s global tariffs that he imposed citing emergency economic powers, including the “Liberation Day” tariffs he announced on April 2. It also prevents Trump from enforcing his tariffs placed earlier this year against China, Mexico and Canada, designed to combat fentanyl coming into the United States.

This is almost a done deal
(Reuters) -A successful trade agreement between India and the U.S. will boost exports and unlock new market access, India's finance ministry said in its monthly economic review on Tuesday.

"A successful U.S.-India trade agreement could flip current headwinds into tailwinds, opening up new market access and energising exports," the report said.

Indian Trade Minister Piyush Goyal visited Washington last week to advance trade talks, with both sides aiming to sign an interim agreement by early July.
 

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It is hard to keep up with all the lawsuits that your people file against our President...it's a waste of your time because 85% of them will be or have been overturned.
lol most of his illegal/unconstitutional EOs have been challenged, most of those have been stayed and few if any have a final ruling so your 85% number is pure MAGA fantasy. He'll do well to hit 15%. When you try to end run the supplicant MAGA Congress and depend on seldom used emergency governmental acts to do everything, you're going to fail a lot since nothing he is addressing is an emergency so say the courts so far. This was a unanimous verdict including a Trump appointed judge.

220 lawsuits in 100 days: Trump administration faces unprecedented legal blitz
 
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This is almost a done deal
(Reuters) -A successful trade agreement between India and the U.S. will boost exports and unlock new market access, India's finance ministry said in its monthly economic review on Tuesday.

"A successful U.S.-India trade agreement could flip current headwinds into tailwinds, opening up new market access and energising exports," the report said.

Indian Trade Minister Piyush Goyal visited Washington last week to advance trade talks, with both sides aiming to sign an interim agreement by early July.
He might have one mostly done (UK) but he's working on the rest and yesterday's ruling won't help him. He needs to clean up the trade mess of his own making that we'll pay for with higher prices, less selection.
 

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The decision was unanimous from a 3-judge panel. Those three judges were appointed by President Reagan (conservative), President Obama (liberal) and President Trump (MAGA).

The opinion pointed out that they were not ruling on whether the tariffs are a good or bad idea; the issue in the decision was the extent of presidential power regarding tariffs.

Ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court may decide the issue. Except that the Trump Administration issued a statement last night that unelected judges should not make these type of decisions. Following that logic, the Supreme Court, which is appointed not elected, would not have jurisdiction to hear an appeal. So who knows what will happen? Perhaps, as an above poster queried, the question of enforcement will have to be answered.

As a side note, one reason the Founding Fathers made federal judgeships an appointed position was to insulate the judiciary, as much as reasonably possible, from the pendulum swings of public opinion. They still are somewhat connected to the electorate as Senate approval of the appointments is required.
 

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The decision was unanimous from a 3-judge panel. Those three judges were appointed by President Reagan (conservative), President Obama (liberal) and President Trump (MAGA).

The opinion pointed out that they were not ruling on whether the tariffs are a good or bad idea; the issue in the decision was the extent of presidential power regarding tariffs.

Ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court may decide the issue. Except that the Trump Administration issued a statement last night that unelected judges should not make these type of decisions. Following that logic, the Supreme Court, which is appointed not elected, would not have jurisdiction to hear an appeal. So who knows what will happen? Perhaps, as an above poster queried, the question of enforcement will have to be answered.

As a side note, one reason the Founding Fathers made federal judgeships an appointed position was to insulate the judiciary, as much as reasonably possible, from the pendulum swings of public opinion. They still are somewhat connected to the electorate as Senate approval of the appointments is required.
They are basically another district court. They should have stayed their own opinion for a higher court, everything on the federal level is higher, to rule. It’s destined for SC. Congress did cede tariff power to the President.
 

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lol Stock market loves it and that's just common sense. This is the best thing that could happen to MAGA and they don't even know it. Trump was busy crushing the economy with his ill-advised, economy-killing tariffs. Empty shelves, higher prices.
Tariffs have caused no problems.
 

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lol most of his illegal/unconstitutional EOs have been challenged, most of those have been stayed and few if any have a final ruling so your 85% number is pure MAGA fantasy. He'll do well to hit 15%.
That number is correct.
 

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You folks will never stop...I expect hundreds more. You and your ilk are obsessed with MAGA...not me...I'm for common sense...you are not.

You believe boys and men should be able compete against girls and women....Correct ?

Funny how we never see girls and women competing in boys and mens sports....WHY ?
You and MAGA hate that Dems believe in and support democracy, the constitution and the rule of law.
 

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That number is correct.
Nope, my number is too high. He'll be lucky to have 10% success where he's been initially ruled against. MAGA SCOTUS is bought and paid for so hard to tell, could go a little higher.
 

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You and MAGA hate that Dems believe in and support democracy, the constitution and the rule of law.
Except when it comes to your own candidates running in Democrat primaries. 🙄

Tell us @moe ...did your party kick sleepy, creepy, crooked Joe Biden aside after he'd legitimately won their '24 Democrat Presidential primary because they were lying about the "top his of game" mental health or they knew he was mentally feeble & absent minded?

That's the definition of "Democracy" according to your loser party? 🫤
 
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You and MAGA hate that Dems believe in and support democracy, the constitution and the rule of law.
So is that why your party created, organized and paid for a fictitious FBI plot to frame Trump for "colluding" with Russians to steal the '16 election, then lied to the FISA Court to illegally spy on his campaign to try & make the phony scam stick? 🤨

Anyone go to jail over that that blatant violation of the Constitution? 😡
 
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You and MAGA hate that Dems believe in and support democracy, the constitution and the rule of law.
So is that why the previous Democrat administration allowed millions of migrants to enter this country illegally and without proper vetting? Many of them being terrorists, drug smugglers, human traffickers, or members of organized criminal gangs who preyed on innocent Americans and killed many of us!

Have we ever received an explanation from the Democrat party or the Biden administration as to what "rule of Law" they were following by allowing our country to be invaded by unidentified foreigners, or worse even allowing them to illegally vote or draw Medicare and/or food stamps? 🤔
 
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You and MAGA hate that Dems believe in and support democracy, the constitution and the rule of law.
So why can't you answer the questions in posts #25, 26 and 27? Can't defend your own looser party's following of Democracy the Constitution and rule of Law?

Apparently you cannot. 🤫
 
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You and MAGA hate that Dems believe in and support democracy, the constitution and the rule of law.
Laughable... most Dems of today believe in idiots like AOC that openly support anarchy.
 

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You and MAGA hate that Dems believe in and support democracy, the constitution and the rule of law.
You believe boys and men should be able compete against girls and women....Correct ?
 

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Are you a tranny? do you drink Bud Light?
No...only Michelob Ultra or Coors Light.

The Supreme Court on Thursday limited the authority of judges to block infrastructure projects due to environmental concerns.
The nine justices handed down the lone decision Thursday morning
 

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@moe
the only response I have to the questions in posts #25, 26, and 27 in this thread since I obviously can't honestly answer any one of 'em is to say you Trumpers take whatever I post on here waaaaay too seriously!

No we don't @moe ...we just enjoy pointing out how you stick your ignorant two left feet into your ignorant two faced mouth each time you accuse Trump or MAGA of the exact things your loser party actually does!

@moe
Like I said, you Trumpers take me waaaay too seriously!




 
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Are you a tranny? do you drink Bud Light?
When we finally meet up @moe , I'm gonna tear you to pieces!

Oh he can't wait Rachel! 🤣

Boy I tell 'ya atl, that 'ol @moe there just stirs my feminine side like you can't imagine!

Well the feeling is mutual for him Rachel, trust me! 🤣