Useless information
- Thread starter godfthr53
- Start date
He had Naz in with us, then changed Naz to MC’s district and put in DGN.
Pretty tough district we have there CB.
It makes more sense for Naz to go East instead of West, regardless I would love to see WWS and Benet play regularly.
WWS
WN
Batavia
Geneva
West Chicago
Willowbrook
DGN
Benet
This works for me.
The 7A/ 8A districts in the West burbs will alway be tough since there are a lot of quality teams within a short distance of each other.
Not sure about copyright rules. Edgy may take this down. Linked and copied (8A to 5A). And the Iowa socialist is not going to like any district projections, since he contends it changes significantly in each 2-year cycle.
https://www.theherald-news.com/lists/2019/01/02/1d46d92aee1143f8a6d4462109621675/index.xml?page=1
CLASS 8A (64 teams, 8 Districts)
District 1 (8 Teams): Barrington, Carpentersville (Dundee-Crown), Gurnee (Warren), Huntley, Lincolnshire (Stevenson), McHenry, Waukegan, Zion-Benton.
District 2 (8): Evanston, Glenview (Glenbrook South), Niles (Notre Dame), Palatine, Park Ridge (Maine South), Skokie (Niles West), Wilmette (Loyola), Winnetka (New Trier).
District 3 (8): Bartlett, Carol Stream (Glenbard North), Elgin, Hoffman Estates (Conant), Palatine (Fremd), Roselle (Lake Park), St. Charles (East), South Elgin.
District 4 (8): Aurora (Metea Valley), Aurora (West), Downers Grove (South), Elmhurst (York), Glen Ellyn (Glenbard West), Lombard (Glenbard East), Naperville (Central), Naperville (North).
District 5 (8): Berwyn-Cicero (Morton), Chicago (Taft), Chicago (Lane), Franklin Park (Leyden), Hinsdale (Central), Hillside (Proviso West), LaGrange (Lyons), Oak Park (River Forest).
District 6 (8): Aurora (East), Aurora (Waubonsie Valley), Bolingbrook, Naperville (Neuqua Valley), Oswego, Oswego (East), Plainfield (East), Plainfield (North).
District 7 (8): Chicago (Brother Rice), Chicago (Curie), Chicago (Marist), Chicago Heights (Bloom), Frankfort (Lincoln-Way East), Homewood-Flossmoor, Orland Park (Sandburg), Palos Hills (Stagg).
District 8 (8): Belleville (East), Edwardsville, Joliet (Central), Joliet (West), Lockport, Minooka, O’Fallon, Plainfield (South).
Smallest schools in the Classification (closest to being in 7A): Proviso West, McHenry, Glenbard North, Plainfield East, Glenbard East.
Mapping issues: The three St. Louis-area teams need five other partners to make up a district of eight teams. The teams closest, although it seems almost comical to use the word closest, seem to largely come from the Joliet area with Minooka as the strongest possibility to draw the short straw. Schools like Huntley could be placed in a different district because of its general proximity to multiple districts. Splitting the two Palatine schools seems counterintuitive until you start to count schools in a congested area. This is the class where the distinctions are harder to make because of the higher concentrations of teams in Chicagoland. I feel good about the groups I’ve created here as far as geographic proximity, but it is easy to see how the districts could be manipulated in different directions.
CLASS 7A (64 teams, 8 Districts)
District 1 (8 teams): Algonquin (Jacobs), DeKalb, Moline, Rockford (Auburn), Rockford (East), Rockton (Hononegah), Yorkville.
District 2 (8): Buffalo Grove, Fox Lake (Grant), Highland Park, Lake Zurich, Libertyville, Mundelein, Northbrook (Glenbrook North), Round Lake.
District 3 (8): Arlington Heights (Hersey), Chicago (Lincoln Park), Chicago (Schurz), Des Plaines (Maine West), Maywood (Proviso East), Mount Prospect, Park Ridge (Maine East), Skokie (Niles North).
District 4 (8): Addison (Trail), Elgin (Larkin), Elk Grove Village, Hoffman Estates, Rolling Meadows, St. Charles (North), Schaumburg, Streamwood.
District 5 (8): Batavia, Downers Grove North, Geneva, Lisle (Benet), Villa Park (Willowbrook), West Chicago, Wheaton (North), Wheaton (Warrenville South).
District 6 (8): Blue Island (Eisenhower), Burbank (Reavis), Chicago (Hubbard), Chicago (Mount Carmel), Harvey (Thornton), LaGrange Park (Nazareth), Oak Lawn (Community), Summit (Argo).
District 7 (8): Bradley-Bourbonnais, Lansing (T.F. South), New Lenox (Lincoln-Way Central), New Lenox (Lincoln-Way West), Plainfield (Central), Romeoville, South Holland (Thornwood), Tinley Park (Andrew).
District 8 (8): Alton, Belleville (West), Collinsville, East St. Louis, Granite City, Normal (Community), Pekin, Quincy.
Largest schools in the classification (closest to being in 8A): Downers Grove North, Benet, Prospect, Lincoln-Way Central, Jacobs.
Smallest schools in the classification (closest to being in 6A): Thornwood, Yorkville, Hubbard, Schurz, Oak Lawn Community.
Mapping issues: There are several. Moline is a real issue as they aren’t particularly close to any of the potential districts and anywhere they land increases the mileage for the other seven school in whatever district they are placed in. Yorkville is another team that isn’t easily placed. They reside relatively close to nearly all the districts but are far enough away where it is logical to see them in any one of about five districts when you really dig in.
CLASS 6A (64 teams, 8 Districts)
District 1 (8 teams): Antioch, Grayslake (Central), Grayslake (North), Lake Forest, Lake Villa (Lakes), Mundelein (Carmel), Vernon Hills, Wauconda.
District 2 (8): Belvidere, Belvidere (North), Cary-Grove, Crystal Lake (Central), Crystal Lake (Prairie Ridge), Crystal Lake (South), Rockford (Guliford), Rockford (Jefferson).
District 3 (8): Bensenville (Fenton), Chicago (Lake View), Chicago (Mather), Chicago (Senn), Chicago (Von Steuben), Deerfield, Hampshire, Wheeling.
District 4 (8): Chicago (Phillips), Chicago (Phoenix), Chicago (St. Ignatius), Chicago (St. Patrick), Chicago (Steinmetz), Maple Park (Kaneland), Riverside-Brookfield, Sycamore.
District 5 (8): Chicago (Kenwood), Chicago (Morgan Park), Chicago (Perspectives Leadership), Chicago (Simeon), Chicago (Washington), Darien (Hinsdale South), Lemont, Oak Lawn (Richards).
District 6 (8): Calumet City (T.F. North), Crete-Monee, Kankakee, Midlothian (Bremen), New Lenox (Providence), Oak Forest, Ottawa, Palos Heights (Shepard).
District 7 (8): Dunlap, East Moline (United), Galesburg, Normal (Community West), Peoria, Peoria (Richwoods), Rock Island, Washington.
District 8 (8): Bloomington, Champaign (Centennial), Champaign (Central), Chatham (Glenwood), Danville, Springfield, Springfield (Lanphier), Springfield (Southeast).
Largest schools in the classification (closest to being in 7A): Shepard, Rockford Guilford, Von Steuben, Wheeling, Cary-Grove.
Smallest schools in the classification (closest to being in 5A): Kankakee, Springfield Southeast, Springfield Lanphier, Sycamore, Morgan Park.
Mapping issues: The breaks are reasonably clear, but some wrinkles could definitely come into play if the IHSA decides to do something different with outliers like Sycamore and Kaneland. Wauconda’s placement is also tricky. Although on paper it doesn’t look right to separate Bloomington and Normal Community West, the eighth school has to come from somewhere to round out the District 8 grouping.
CLASS 5A (65 teams, 8 Districts)
District 1 (8 teams): Arlington Heights (St. Viator), Burlington (Central), Freeport, Rochelle, Rockford (Boylan), Sterling, Woodstock, Woodstock (North).
District 2 (8): Aurora (Marmion), Chicago (Amundsen), Chicago (Foreman), Elmwood Park, Glen Ellyn (Glenbard South), Lombard (Montini), Norridge (Ridgewood), Oak Park (Fenwick).
District 3 (8): Burbank (St. Laurence), Chicago (Back of the Yards), Chicago (De La Salle), Chicago (Goode), Chicago (Lindblom), Chicago (Payton), Chicago (Solorio Academy), Chicago (Westinghouse).
District 4 (8): Chicago (Brooks), Chicago (Hyde Park), Chicago (St. Rita), Chicago (Vocational), Country Club Hills (Hillcrest), Dolton (Thornridge), Evergreen Park, Tinley Park.
District 5 (8): Chicago Heights (Marian Catholic), Joliet Catholic, LaSalle-Peru, Morris, Olympia Fields (Rich Central), Park Forest (Rich East), Richton Park (Rich South), Streator.
District 6 (8): Bartonville (Limestone), East Peoria, Geneseo, Mahomet-Seymour, Metamora, Morton, Peoria (Notre Dame), Urbana.
District 7 (8): Charleston, Decatur (Eisenhower), Decatur (MacArthur), Jacksonville, Jerseyville (Jersey), Lincoln, Mattoon, Springfield (Sacred Heart-Griffin).
District 8 (9): Cahokia, Carbondale, Centralia, Highland, Marion, Mascoutah, Mount Vernon, Troy (Triad), Waterloo.
Largest schools in the classification (closest to being in 6A): LaSalle-Peru, Amundsen, Thornridge, Fenwick, Freeport.
Smallest schools in the classification (closest to being in 4A): Peoria (Notre Dame), Hyde Park, Charleston, Foreman, Geneseo.
Mapping issues: Geneseo is tricky. And it might be a stretch to put it in District 6, but it is closer on the whole to the majority of the teams in that district, despite the fact that it is farther north than Streator, which was placed in District 5. Splitting teams between District 3 and District 4 is a fine line as well and those teams could easily be distributed in a different way.
https://www.theherald-news.com/lists/2019/01/02/1d46d92aee1143f8a6d4462109621675/index.xml?page=1
CLASS 8A (64 teams, 8 Districts)
District 1 (8 Teams): Barrington, Carpentersville (Dundee-Crown), Gurnee (Warren), Huntley, Lincolnshire (Stevenson), McHenry, Waukegan, Zion-Benton.
District 2 (8): Evanston, Glenview (Glenbrook South), Niles (Notre Dame), Palatine, Park Ridge (Maine South), Skokie (Niles West), Wilmette (Loyola), Winnetka (New Trier).
District 3 (8): Bartlett, Carol Stream (Glenbard North), Elgin, Hoffman Estates (Conant), Palatine (Fremd), Roselle (Lake Park), St. Charles (East), South Elgin.
District 4 (8): Aurora (Metea Valley), Aurora (West), Downers Grove (South), Elmhurst (York), Glen Ellyn (Glenbard West), Lombard (Glenbard East), Naperville (Central), Naperville (North).
District 5 (8): Berwyn-Cicero (Morton), Chicago (Taft), Chicago (Lane), Franklin Park (Leyden), Hinsdale (Central), Hillside (Proviso West), LaGrange (Lyons), Oak Park (River Forest).
District 6 (8): Aurora (East), Aurora (Waubonsie Valley), Bolingbrook, Naperville (Neuqua Valley), Oswego, Oswego (East), Plainfield (East), Plainfield (North).
District 7 (8): Chicago (Brother Rice), Chicago (Curie), Chicago (Marist), Chicago Heights (Bloom), Frankfort (Lincoln-Way East), Homewood-Flossmoor, Orland Park (Sandburg), Palos Hills (Stagg).
District 8 (8): Belleville (East), Edwardsville, Joliet (Central), Joliet (West), Lockport, Minooka, O’Fallon, Plainfield (South).
Smallest schools in the Classification (closest to being in 7A): Proviso West, McHenry, Glenbard North, Plainfield East, Glenbard East.
Mapping issues: The three St. Louis-area teams need five other partners to make up a district of eight teams. The teams closest, although it seems almost comical to use the word closest, seem to largely come from the Joliet area with Minooka as the strongest possibility to draw the short straw. Schools like Huntley could be placed in a different district because of its general proximity to multiple districts. Splitting the two Palatine schools seems counterintuitive until you start to count schools in a congested area. This is the class where the distinctions are harder to make because of the higher concentrations of teams in Chicagoland. I feel good about the groups I’ve created here as far as geographic proximity, but it is easy to see how the districts could be manipulated in different directions.
CLASS 7A (64 teams, 8 Districts)
District 1 (8 teams): Algonquin (Jacobs), DeKalb, Moline, Rockford (Auburn), Rockford (East), Rockton (Hononegah), Yorkville.
District 2 (8): Buffalo Grove, Fox Lake (Grant), Highland Park, Lake Zurich, Libertyville, Mundelein, Northbrook (Glenbrook North), Round Lake.
District 3 (8): Arlington Heights (Hersey), Chicago (Lincoln Park), Chicago (Schurz), Des Plaines (Maine West), Maywood (Proviso East), Mount Prospect, Park Ridge (Maine East), Skokie (Niles North).
District 4 (8): Addison (Trail), Elgin (Larkin), Elk Grove Village, Hoffman Estates, Rolling Meadows, St. Charles (North), Schaumburg, Streamwood.
District 5 (8): Batavia, Downers Grove North, Geneva, Lisle (Benet), Villa Park (Willowbrook), West Chicago, Wheaton (North), Wheaton (Warrenville South).
District 6 (8): Blue Island (Eisenhower), Burbank (Reavis), Chicago (Hubbard), Chicago (Mount Carmel), Harvey (Thornton), LaGrange Park (Nazareth), Oak Lawn (Community), Summit (Argo).
District 7 (8): Bradley-Bourbonnais, Lansing (T.F. South), New Lenox (Lincoln-Way Central), New Lenox (Lincoln-Way West), Plainfield (Central), Romeoville, South Holland (Thornwood), Tinley Park (Andrew).
District 8 (8): Alton, Belleville (West), Collinsville, East St. Louis, Granite City, Normal (Community), Pekin, Quincy.
Largest schools in the classification (closest to being in 8A): Downers Grove North, Benet, Prospect, Lincoln-Way Central, Jacobs.
Smallest schools in the classification (closest to being in 6A): Thornwood, Yorkville, Hubbard, Schurz, Oak Lawn Community.
Mapping issues: There are several. Moline is a real issue as they aren’t particularly close to any of the potential districts and anywhere they land increases the mileage for the other seven school in whatever district they are placed in. Yorkville is another team that isn’t easily placed. They reside relatively close to nearly all the districts but are far enough away where it is logical to see them in any one of about five districts when you really dig in.
CLASS 6A (64 teams, 8 Districts)
District 1 (8 teams): Antioch, Grayslake (Central), Grayslake (North), Lake Forest, Lake Villa (Lakes), Mundelein (Carmel), Vernon Hills, Wauconda.
District 2 (8): Belvidere, Belvidere (North), Cary-Grove, Crystal Lake (Central), Crystal Lake (Prairie Ridge), Crystal Lake (South), Rockford (Guliford), Rockford (Jefferson).
District 3 (8): Bensenville (Fenton), Chicago (Lake View), Chicago (Mather), Chicago (Senn), Chicago (Von Steuben), Deerfield, Hampshire, Wheeling.
District 4 (8): Chicago (Phillips), Chicago (Phoenix), Chicago (St. Ignatius), Chicago (St. Patrick), Chicago (Steinmetz), Maple Park (Kaneland), Riverside-Brookfield, Sycamore.
District 5 (8): Chicago (Kenwood), Chicago (Morgan Park), Chicago (Perspectives Leadership), Chicago (Simeon), Chicago (Washington), Darien (Hinsdale South), Lemont, Oak Lawn (Richards).
District 6 (8): Calumet City (T.F. North), Crete-Monee, Kankakee, Midlothian (Bremen), New Lenox (Providence), Oak Forest, Ottawa, Palos Heights (Shepard).
District 7 (8): Dunlap, East Moline (United), Galesburg, Normal (Community West), Peoria, Peoria (Richwoods), Rock Island, Washington.
District 8 (8): Bloomington, Champaign (Centennial), Champaign (Central), Chatham (Glenwood), Danville, Springfield, Springfield (Lanphier), Springfield (Southeast).
Largest schools in the classification (closest to being in 7A): Shepard, Rockford Guilford, Von Steuben, Wheeling, Cary-Grove.
Smallest schools in the classification (closest to being in 5A): Kankakee, Springfield Southeast, Springfield Lanphier, Sycamore, Morgan Park.
Mapping issues: The breaks are reasonably clear, but some wrinkles could definitely come into play if the IHSA decides to do something different with outliers like Sycamore and Kaneland. Wauconda’s placement is also tricky. Although on paper it doesn’t look right to separate Bloomington and Normal Community West, the eighth school has to come from somewhere to round out the District 8 grouping.
CLASS 5A (65 teams, 8 Districts)
District 1 (8 teams): Arlington Heights (St. Viator), Burlington (Central), Freeport, Rochelle, Rockford (Boylan), Sterling, Woodstock, Woodstock (North).
District 2 (8): Aurora (Marmion), Chicago (Amundsen), Chicago (Foreman), Elmwood Park, Glen Ellyn (Glenbard South), Lombard (Montini), Norridge (Ridgewood), Oak Park (Fenwick).
District 3 (8): Burbank (St. Laurence), Chicago (Back of the Yards), Chicago (De La Salle), Chicago (Goode), Chicago (Lindblom), Chicago (Payton), Chicago (Solorio Academy), Chicago (Westinghouse).
District 4 (8): Chicago (Brooks), Chicago (Hyde Park), Chicago (St. Rita), Chicago (Vocational), Country Club Hills (Hillcrest), Dolton (Thornridge), Evergreen Park, Tinley Park.
District 5 (8): Chicago Heights (Marian Catholic), Joliet Catholic, LaSalle-Peru, Morris, Olympia Fields (Rich Central), Park Forest (Rich East), Richton Park (Rich South), Streator.
District 6 (8): Bartonville (Limestone), East Peoria, Geneseo, Mahomet-Seymour, Metamora, Morton, Peoria (Notre Dame), Urbana.
District 7 (8): Charleston, Decatur (Eisenhower), Decatur (MacArthur), Jacksonville, Jerseyville (Jersey), Lincoln, Mattoon, Springfield (Sacred Heart-Griffin).
District 8 (9): Cahokia, Carbondale, Centralia, Highland, Marion, Mascoutah, Mount Vernon, Troy (Triad), Waterloo.
Largest schools in the classification (closest to being in 6A): LaSalle-Peru, Amundsen, Thornridge, Fenwick, Freeport.
Smallest schools in the classification (closest to being in 4A): Peoria (Notre Dame), Hyde Park, Charleston, Foreman, Geneseo.
Mapping issues: Geneseo is tricky. And it might be a stretch to put it in District 6, but it is closer on the whole to the majority of the teams in that district, despite the fact that it is farther north than Streator, which was placed in District 5. Splitting teams between District 3 and District 4 is a fine line as well and those teams could easily be distributed in a different way.
Holy crap,check this District out
District 7 (8):Chicago (Brother Rice), Chicago (Curie), Chicago (Marist), Chicago Heights (Bloom), Frankfort (Lincoln-Way East), Homewood-Flossmoor, Orland Park (Sandburg), Palos Hills (Stagg).
District 7 (8):Chicago (Brother Rice), Chicago (Curie), Chicago (Marist), Chicago Heights (Bloom), Frankfort (Lincoln-Way East), Homewood-Flossmoor, Orland Park (Sandburg), Palos Hills (Stagg).
Curie, Stagg, Bloom and Sandburg will never see the playoffs!
What an honor to have such a pejorative applied by you pjjp. Glad to know I haunt your thoughts. But you are right (not about the socialist part very much a capitalist), there can be big changes every 2 years with the biggest and newest being huge swings in classification for the private’s if/when multipliers are added or removed. And we also do not know just how the mapping will be done by the IHSA and or how strictly they will adhere to it... might they take some liberties... we don’t know.
District 2 (8): Aurora (Marmion), Chicago (Amundsen), Chicago (Foreman), Elmwood Park, Glen Ellyn (Glenbard South), Lombard (Montini), Norridge (Ridgewood), Oak Park (Fenwick).
After looking at this my initial thought was that Montini should not, in any way, shape or form, be playing 5 of those schools. I then looked at it from those schools perspective, those schools don't want anything to do with Montini.
If this is legit, there may be a second vote on districts because there has to be a better way.
After looking at this my initial thought was that Montini should not, in any way, shape or form, be playing 5 of those schools. I then looked at it from those schools perspective, those schools don't want anything to do with Montini.
If this is legit, there may be a second vote on districts because there has to be a better way.
Below I’m pasting Montini’s week 3-9 conference schedule for the next 2 seasons in the Catholic mega conference. Assuming they schedule “lighter weight” opponents week 1 and 2 I can say the same thing about 4-5 opponents on that schedule as well. The new districts won’t punish them for having good opponents week 1 and 2. So under both systems they will likely have about an equal number of opponents who you don’t think are of their caliber.
??? (Sub standard)
??? (Sub standard)
W3 at Mount Carmel
W4 vs. St. Rita
W5 vs. St. Viator (sub standard)
W6 at Notre Dame
W7 at St. Joseph (sub standard)
W8 vs. De La Salle (sub standard)
W9 vs. Providence
And some of these other opponents while they have sexy names are very good recently.
Montini would play one of those 5 in the first or second round of the playoffs if they made it under the current format.
I looked at some of the schools and went, wow, how did Kankakee end up in 6A? So I pull up Soucie's article and read how he pulled out the CPS non-playoff leagues, and removed the teams indicating that they are going 8 man, okay, but this still doesn't make much sense. Then I look at the IHSA site and the Dec. 13 2 year enrollments & classes...WHOA!!!
First thing that jumps out at me is that the 2A/3A cutoff for basketball jumps from 546 to 697!!!! Wrestling 1A jumps to 788 from 647!!! I'm intrigued on multiple levels...
Then I'm looking at particular schools and going, hmmm, why is that school's enrollment bigger than it has been in several years, and that school's smaller even though the enrollments have been stable? Interesting...
First glance, Soucie seems to be clumping 4A, which makes it more logical than running the width of the state. Far southern suburbs 4A district has Manteno, Herscher, Mac, Coal City, Pontiac, Metamora, Sandwich, Plano...might be tweakable, but more travel logical than the last try...
First thing that jumps out at me is that the 2A/3A cutoff for basketball jumps from 546 to 697!!!! Wrestling 1A jumps to 788 from 647!!! I'm intrigued on multiple levels...
Then I'm looking at particular schools and going, hmmm, why is that school's enrollment bigger than it has been in several years, and that school's smaller even though the enrollments have been stable? Interesting...
First glance, Soucie seems to be clumping 4A, which makes it more logical than running the width of the state. Far southern suburbs 4A district has Manteno, Herscher, Mac, Coal City, Pontiac, Metamora, Sandwich, Plano...might be tweakable, but more travel logical than the last try...
Are you accounting for the new rule on the removal of the multiplier from most private’s that moves schools like Fenwick from 7a to 5a under this mock districting?
Still dislike the district model greatly. With the exception of many large suburban schools, most will be wishing to dump this model after a year or two.
That said, from a JC perspective, I was expecting a total crap district. That is largely what they got. However reigniting the Morris rivalry makes up for a lot of the negatives. And then you also have traditional rival marian in district. If you can add MC and Providence weeks 1 and 2, then I think there will be 4 regular season games worth paying to see. Better than I expected for the Hilltoppers.
That said, from a JC perspective, I was expecting a total crap district. That is largely what they got. However reigniting the Morris rivalry makes up for a lot of the negatives. And then you also have traditional rival marian in district. If you can add MC and Providence weeks 1 and 2, then I think there will be 4 regular season games worth paying to see. Better than I expected for the Hilltoppers.
That schedule could cause an uproar in the St Rita community. There is not 1 team that an alum would get excited to go watch a game against.
It seams to me that the IHSA has a definite plan in mind on steering the districts, putting the privates where they want them! Think about it, districts start 2021, correct? The multiplier comes off this year for privates that have not won 3 playoff games in a consecutive 2 year period. So the privates that are competitive enough and get their 5 wins and enough points will go into the playoffs by their actual enrollment. Which in the next 2 year period will put the success factor back on to those successful private schools, when districts are implemented, matching them up with larger public schools that our closer to them in geographics. You know this might actually work for the most part!
What do you think, Montini has no relationship with the following schools in the proposed district:
Chicago (Amundsen), Chicago (Foreman), Elmwood Park, Glen Ellyn (Glenbard South), Norridge (Ridgewood).
Glenbard South got to the playoffs last season for the first time since 2011 and went out in the first round, Amundsen got in the playoffs for the first time in decades last season and got beat by St. Francis 49-7, Foreman has won 10 games in the last 5 years, Elmwood Pk went to the playoffs and beat Back of the Yards 41-18 and then lost to Evergreen Park 52-14, Ridgewood didn't make the playoffs last season.
As far as the Catholic League Montini schedule, it leaves a lot to be desired but at least Montini has some relationship with those schools.
When its all said and done this proposal is a mess.
If we are being honest there isn’t a 5A district that would be able to offer Montini more then 1 or possibly 2 competitive games. They don’t fit on 5A but they could always petition up otherwise they will have to wait until the quarter finals for an interesting game.
Admittedly I haven't paid much attention to this proposal until today. I agree with you that Montini, if this proposal goes through, will have to make the decision as to petitioning up.
If the schedule projected by Soucie is close to accurate, not only will the fans not go to the games, the players will not want to play that type of schedule. It is entirely possible that the parents of the players might stay home.
Glenbard South has been to the playoffs 16 times in the last 20 years but haven't been to the quarters since 09.
A drop to 5A and with that schedule would not bode well for the future of Rita football
Out of all the districts that don't include St. Louis area schools or Moline, the above is the one that is most baffling to me From Amundsen at Foster and Damen on the north side of the city to Marmion in Aurora.
Here is the second most baffling:
District 3 (8): Bensenville (Fenton), Chicago (Lake View), Chicago (Mather), Chicago (Senn), Chicago (Von Steuben), Deerfield, Hampshire, Wheeling.
Hampshire and Senn High School in the northeast Edgewater neighborhood of Chicago? Really? Fenton, Deerfield, Hampshire and Wheeling are your four perennial playoff qualifiers from that district. Their combined playoff record in the 19 years of playoffs since 2000 is 6-25. The combined playoff records of the other four schools over the same period is 0-9.
Last edited:
I wondered about that. But, if the conference doesn't offer football any longer, why would they care if ESL petitions to play up? Do conferences have a say in what conference members do in a sport that the conference doesn't offer a championship?
Maybe just Maybe Souc put this out so everyone sees just how garbage it is and someone puts this on the ballot to get rid of it before it starts .
With the enrollment of 1262, based on Soucie numbers ESL will be 6A and pretty close to the 5A cutoff. Definitely interesting.
When you consider the fact that conferences have absolutely nothing to do with the playoffs I don't see anything changing.
But they certainly have a say or three in every other sport.....also I',m just telling you what I've been told by some VERY good sources regarding this issue....
Exactly my point. If they are able to pull it off now, they will be able to pull it off then.
The conference rule was passed this year and not in effect until 2019 so still not sure where you are coming from here....let me know
Agree Bronco man. I for one can't see myself going to any Montini game with Amundsen, Foreman, Ridgewood, Elmwood Park, etc. The only games I might go to would be Marmion or Fenwick. Last year when Montini played Depaul Prep in baseball at their field in Chicago, there might have been 30 fans at the game, 90% of whom were Montini fans. Same for the football game there with many 200 fans total. If this does come to pass, Montini will have to petition up to get any type competitive game which would hurt them come playoff time. I really hate the idea of not playing other CCL schools where there are traditional rivalries between schools. In addition, the travel times into the city would be horrendous on a Friday evening game.