Using article four of the 25th amendment to impeach Trump

[WVMade]

As the conservative radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt noted in his recent book The Fourth Way, Trump shouldn’t discount the possibility of impeachment. There are a number of issues Democrats in Congress could seize upon to pursue removing the president if they had Republican allies willing to go along with them. Many Republicans in Congress would prefer a President Mike Pence to a President Trump anyway.


Republicans could question Trump’s sanity and use article four of the 25th amendment to try to oust him. The Republican representative Jason Chaffetz is reportedly already considering pursuing legislation that would require presidents to undergo independent medical examinations that would include a mental evaluation. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence he is pursuing such legislation now that Trump is president.

 

[Boomboom521]

If it was that easy, I think 4 out of the last 5 presidents would have been impeached

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

I think Lindsey Graham and John McCain are already on board, just need a few more.

 

[WVMade]

Trump has no problem exposing his mental issues. That's a huge red flag.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

Trump has no problem exposing his mental issues. That's a huge red flag.

Egomania and Mental Illness
Egomania is strongly associated with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), a rare diagnosis in which a person is self-involved, struggles with empathy, believes they are destined for greatness, and may be cruel to others. NPD can be challenging to treat, but a combination of talk therapy and psychotropic medication is often effective. In addition, people with borderline personality disorder may alternate between extreme egomania and extreme self-loathing.

Egomania can also play a significant role in addiction. Substance abuse often causes an addict to focus solely on the addiction, ignoring other people’s needs and prioritizing his/her own substance abuse needs above everything else.

Some other mental health conditions may outwardly manifest as egomania. For example, people experiencing major depression may appear extremely self-involved and may be interested only in talking about their own feelings. However, people who are depressed often have low feelings of self-worth and thus are not egomaniacs, even if their behavior seems very self-centered. Schizophrenia may occasionally manifest as egomania, particularly when a person with schizophrenia experiences delusions of grandeur.

Reference:

1. American Psychological Association. APA concise dictionary of psychology. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association, 2009. Print.

http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/egomania

 

[Airport]

There's a difference between impeachment and conviction. If Congress doesn't convict a president for perjury, bill Clinton, then they will not convict Trump of anything approaching that.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

There's a difference between impeachment and conviction. If Congress doesn't convict a president for perjury, bill Clinton, then they will not convict Trump of anything approaching that.

There is a huge difference; one is competent and did a decent job, the other, not so much. There a few Republicans that want him out of there already. I think the list will grow over time.

 

[Boomboom521]

There is a huge difference; one is competent and did a decent job, the other, not so much. There a few Republicans that want him out of there already. I think the list will grow over time.

I don't know, I think the Republicans love him. They get most of what they want, agendas will be signed into law. And they have a really big goofball lightening rod to take all the negative if things go wrong. "He wasn't a real Republican", is a phrase I think we will hear a lot in 4 or 8 years depending on how long it takes his bs to completely implode.

 

[Airport]

There is a huge difference; one is competent and did a decent job, the other, not so much. There a few Republicans that want him out of there already. I think the list will grow over time.

trump hasnt' been in office three weeks, Bill Clinton broke the law when he perjured himself. Doesn't matter what kind of job he did. You are going to have to give Trump a few more months to break the law before you can impeach him and then convict. Just wishful thinking rigthn ow.

 

[bamaEER]

I don't know, I think the Republicans love him. They get most of what they want, agendas will be signed into law. And they have a really big goofball lightening rod to take all the negative if things go wrong. "He wasn't a real Republican", is a phrase I think we will hear a lot in 4 or 8 years depending on how long it takes his bs to completely implode.

I think it's too soon to tell if they love him. Gotta wait and see what his cabinet members do once they start leading their respective agencies. If Pruitt starts imploding the EPA for example, you may see them change their minds.

 

[Airport]

I think it's too soon to tell is they love him. Gotta wait and see what his cabinet members do once they start leading their respective agencies. If Pruitt starts imploding the EPA for example, you may see them change their minds.

many of us will be happy to see the EPA do a agency wide reeval.

 

[bornaneer]

There is a huge difference; one is competent and did a decent job, the other, not so much. There a few Republicans that want him out of there already. I think the list will grow over time.

Lindsey Graham is a pathetic career politician above all and is part of the swamp that needs drained........I can't believe you would support anything that douche does.......John McCain has "old timers" disease.

 

[bamaEER]

many of us will be happy to see the EPA do a agency wide reeval.

Depends on how they reeval. If they start tossing health, safety, env impact policies that have tons of strong corroborating data backing them, Biff will have a mess on his hands.

 

[WVMade]

trump hasnt' been in office three weeks, Bill Clinton broke the law when he perjured himself. Doesn't matter what kind of job he did. You are going to have to give Trump a few more months to break the law before you can impeach him and then convict. Just wishful thinking rigthn ow.

Repubs spent $70 million going after Clinton over a blow job. Can you imagine if Dems spent $120 million (adjusted for inflation) going after Trump? 'Good 'ol DonnieJ would be toast... and Repub heads would explode over the colossal waste of taxpayer funds.Not so much in '93 though. It was well worth the waste for an ACQUITTAL that amounted to nothing. At least you can still talk about it 24 freaking years later. Makes you wonder who the true crazies are doesn't it?.

 

[Airport]

Repubs spent $70 million going after Clinton over a blow job. Can you imagine if Dems spent $120 million (adjusted for inflation) going after Trump? 'Good 'ol DonnieJ would be toast... and Repub heads would explode over the colossal waste of taxpayer funds.Not so much in '93 though. It was well worth the waste for an ACQUITTAL that amounted to nothing. At least you can still talk about it 24 freaking years later. Makes you wonder who the true crazies are doesn't it?.

First, he lied in a deposition, that's perjury from the Chief law enforcement officer in the country. This all came out of a lot more than a blow job. Clintons are crooked and always have skirted the law. If you know me, I said he should have refused to testify as a sitting president because only congress can compel the President to testify. He got really bad advice. he probably could have run out the clock and then testified as a private citizen. You do know that he was accused of sexually assaulting paula Jones and we know he did it. it was not nothing, he lied in a deposition, got disbarred and impeached. No small matter when you are a lawyer.

 

[Airport]

Depends on how they reeval. If they start tossing health, safety, env impact policies that have tons of strong corroborating data backing them, Biff will have a mess on his hands.

The EPA is a political entity. I would have them repeal 100 regulations before one regulation would be approved.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

The EPA is a political entity.

 

[Airport]

Only liberals believe is isn't.

 

[Boomboom521]

Cancer and heart disease have no political affiliation.

 

[Airport]

Cancer and heart disease have no political affiliation.

EPA has been used by liberal to get what they could not legislate. The EPA does not regulate Cancer or heart disease. that comes under the FDA.

 

[Boomboom521]

EPA has been used by liberal to get what they could not legislate. The EPA does not regulate Cancer or heart disease. that comes under the FDA.

They regulate air pollution, and water pollution.

 

[va87eer]

Egomania and Mental Illness
Egomania is strongly associated with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), a rare diagnosis in which a person is self-involved, struggles with empathy, believes they are destined for greatness, and may be cruel to others. NPD can be challenging to treat, but a combination of talk therapy and psychotropic medication is often effective. In addition, people with borderline personality disorder may alternate between extreme egomania and extreme self-loathing.

Egomania can also play a significant role in addiction. Substance abuse often causes an addict to focus solely on the addiction, ignoring other people’s needs and prioritizing his/her own substance abuse needs above everything else.

Some other mental health conditions may outwardly manifest as egomania. For example, people experiencing major depression may appear extremely self-involved and may be interested only in talking about their own feelings. However, people who are depressed often have low feelings of self-worth and thus are not egomaniacs, even if their behavior seems very self-centered. Schizophrenia may occasionally manifest as egomania, particularly when a person with schizophrenia experiences delusions of grandeur.

Reference:

1. American Psychological Association. APA concise dictionary of psychology. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association, 2009. Print.

http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/egomania

I once had a narcissist on my team at work.

He was difficult to "control" over the long term but he was extremely easy to manipulate (to positive effect) in the short term. He would do anything for my approval and would take on some of the most difficult challenges of anyone on my team. He would jump in with full force and achieve amazing things in difficult business situations.

He struggled with routine and would get derailed over the silliest things if something didn't go his way. He would get into frivolous arguments with people a couple pay grades below him. He was extremely sensitive to anything that could be interpreted as a personal insult. He didn't hesitate to give out criticism but couldn't take it.

DT demonstrates some of the same characteristics. Sometimes I think they're real and sometime just a game or setup for a negotiation position. I'm hoping Ivanka and his staff will encourage him to take a deep breath, ignore the stupidity, and move forward.

 

[bamaEER]

The EPA is a political entity. I would have them repeal 100 regulations before one regulation would be approved.

Heavy metals from emissions and pesticide application and use standards and all the data that support them are not political.

 

[bornaneer]

Heavy metals from emissions and pesticide application and use standards and all the data that support them are not political.

Deciding what gets attention and not gets attention is definitely political.

 

[bamaEER]

I once had a narcissist on my team at work.

He was difficult to "control" over the long term but he was extremely easy to manipulate (to positive effect) in the short term. He would do anything for my approval and would take on some of the most difficult challenges of anyone on my team. He would jump in with full force and achieve amazing things in difficult business situations.

He struggled with routine and would get derailed over the silliest things if something didn't go his way. He would get into frivolous arguments with people a couple pay grades below him. He was extremely sensitive to anything that could be interpreted as a personal insult. He didn't hesitate to give out criticism but couldn't take it.

DT demonstrates some of the same characteristics. Sometimes I think they're real and sometime just a game or setup for a negotiation position. I'm hoping Ivanka and his staff will encourage him to take a deep breath, ignore the stupidity, and move forward.

I had one in a bunch of classes I took at WVU, he was a year behind me. I could take him in small doses, but he got everyone annoyed when we went on class trips. When I went to Auburn for grad school, he showed up there the following year to start his M.S and I couldn't believe it. I couldn't get rid of him.

 

[va87eer]

I had one in a bunch of classes I took at WVU, he was a year behind me. I could take him in small doses, but he got everyone annoyed when we went on class trips. When I went to Auburn for grad school, he showed up there the following year to start his M.S and I couldn't believe it. I couldn't get rid of him.

That's hilarious! We had a guy at WVU who wasn't a narcissist but seemed to be a bit of an ***-kisser. He always made comments in class about "modern locomotives." So I'm sitting at my work orientation without about 20 other people and I hear a guy in the back of the room make some comment on "modern locomotives" and sure enough - he was there!

 

[bamaEER]

That's hilarious! We had a guy at WVU who wasn't a narcissist but seemed to be a bit of an ***-kisser. He always made comments in class about "modern locomotives." So I'm sitting at my work orientation without about 20 other people and I hear a guy in the back of the room make some comment on "modern locomotives" and sure enough - he was there!

I feel your pain.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

many of us will be happy to see the EPA do a agency wide reeval.

I never like to see an agency making their own laws. The EPA has been doing that for a while now

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

I once had a narcissist on my team at work.

He was difficult to "control" over the long term but he was extremely easy to manipulate (to positive effect) in the short term. He would do anything for my approval and would take on some of the most difficult challenges of anyone on my team. He would jump in with full force and achieve amazing things in difficult business situations.

He struggled with routine and would get derailed over the silliest things if something didn't go his way. He would get into frivolous arguments with people a couple pay grades below him. He was extremely sensitive to anything that could be interpreted as a personal insult. He didn't hesitate to give out criticism but couldn't take it.

DT demonstrates some of the same characteristics. Sometimes I think they're real and sometime just a game or setup for a negotiation position. I'm hoping Ivanka and his staff will encourage him to take a deep breath, ignore the stupidity, and move forward.

I accidentally hired one. I could say the same things about her. If I needed something done by 8am the next morning, she would have it done and it would be fantastic. She looked good too. But she was such a pain in the arse that I had a difficult time managing her. The whole team hated her too!